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Real opposition - Chaudhry Pervez Ilahee

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  1. Anonymous

    N-League should learn from Pervaiz Ilahee.
    This is what an opposition leader is supposed to do. He is talking about real issues with facts and figures. His whole criticism is over development projects, mismanagement and bad governance. He is taking up real issue and presenting implementable solution.

    I am impressed by him.

    Q-Leage opposition leader quotes on Punjab government:

    "koi inhoo ne education policy yaa health policy dee hai?"
    "development budget kee under utilization kaa record qaem kiaa hai"
    "koi 1122 jaisaa project laa kay dikhaein"
    "IT center kion bandd kiaa giaa?"
    "mass transit kaa project kion bandd kiaa?"
    "hum ne punjab assembly mein 2 saal mein 37 bills pass keay aur inhoo ne 2 saal mein 3 bill pass keay"

    N-League opposition leader kee quotes on federal government:

    "Musharraf kaa trial chalao"
    "17th ammendment"
    "hukoomat nakaam hai"
    "Zardari ghair mulki doray kion kartaa hai"

    http://pkaffairs.com/playshow.asp?pageId=5333

    Now dont come up with BS that he supported Musharraf and what not. Talk about real issues. I commend Pervaiz Ilahee for being a real opposition leader. I wish N-LEague learn from him and do a similar kind of criticism on federal government rather than 17th ammendment khatam karoo, but Lahore Badshah pay bhaatee gate kay siri payee kaa nasha charhaa hoaa hai, inn ko kuch samajh nahi aaey gee.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 16:42 #
  2. amriyat ka saath dene wala namanzoor!

    Mulla!

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 17:08 #
  3. Anonymous

    amriyat ko maafi namay likhnay walay zindabad!

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 17:18 #
  4. zjshami
    Member

    Amriyat ki wapsi chahnay walay namanzoor.
    maafi mang kar amriyat ko kick out karnay walay hi asal syasatdan hain

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 17:40 #
  5. Anonymous

    "maafi mang kar amriyat ko kick out karnay walay "

    You gotta be kidding me. You think these maafi nama people had anything to do with Musharraf's departure??

    Anyways, start another thread over that topic if you want. This thread only compares the performance of two opposition parties; Q-League and N-League and as expected N-League has miserably failed due to the reasons I presented in my original post. If anyone disagrees, please bring forward argument that is relevant to the topic. To make it clear, Q-League's Musharraf support is irrelevant as far as this thread is concerned, so if you want to discuss that feel free to start another thread.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 18:08 #
  6. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    I will laugh on the words;

    'Real opposition - Chaudhry Pervez Ilahee'

    Those who should have been hanged for treason against this nation in OPEN public have now become 'Real opposition' in eyes of a 'few' among us.

    This is DETESTABLE!!!!!

    We will NOT!!! allow criminals, those who commit treason against us, against our nation, against our people to become OUR representatives

    This is UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 18:24 #
  7. msohail83
    Member

    Thanks for the laugh obaid. lol

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 18:30 #
  8. obaid!

    Mulla!

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 18:32 #
  9. Anonymous

    Comment on the arguments I made in my original post. Counter them if you can and if you can not, then continue with these non-sense and irrelevant posts.

    As far as I am concerned, well done Pervez Ilahi !

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 18:36 #
  10. msohail83
    Member

    Zardari se pervez... lahaul wala quwat. yar koi banda te kum da labbo ;-)

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 18:37 #
  11. zia m
    Member

    PMLN's role as opposition needs much to be desired.I am not totally convinced by their argument of not derailing the democratic process.
    But Pervez Ilahi has no credibility at all.It is like Bush or Cheney criticizing China on torture or human rights.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 18:37 #
  12. Anonymous

    @zia m,

    Dont you think his interview demonstrates a healthy and a true role of an opposition leader? He is giving facts and figures on development projects and governance to prove his point. He is talking about policy alternatives and issues that matter, such as

    *development budget for Southern Punjab
    *Health and education policy of Khadim-e-aala (or lack thereof)
    *Length of roads buit
    *Development fund utilization

    On the other hand, N-Leaguers talk about

    *Musharraf kaa trial
    *Salman Taseer kee family pictures
    *Zardari kay ghair mulki doray
    *Prime Minister aur President mein differences

    you tell me, who is real opposition????

    Compare Pervez Ilahi's and Chodhry Nisar's interviews with any other opposition leader interview in western democracies and you will realize who knows what opposition means.

    Pervez Ilahi's interview remind of presidential debate between McCain and Obama.

    Well done Pervez Ilahi!

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 18:44 #
  13. zia m
    Member

    bsobaid
    Credibility is the main issue here.Pervez Ilahi has lost his credibility by opposing democratic forces.His critcism carries no weight.
    If i am a non practicing Muslim it does not give me any right to preach others to pray five times a day or keep fast.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 18:59 #
  14. Anonymous

    When did he talk about democracy or lack of democracy??

    If he supported dictator then so did Mian Sahiban. Will you now say Mian sahibaan dont have any credibility either??

    Its not about that. On one side people say government is distracting awam from real issues and when someone brings up real issues then we go around questioning his credibility. Does'nt sound fair to me.

    Did he not point out valid issues?
    The issues he brought up, were they not awami?
    Did he not back his argument up by facts and figures?
    Did he not provide alternative policies?

    On the other hand, when was the last time you saw N-Leaguers doing that???

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 19:03 #
  15. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    The only thing I want to hear about them, is the court of LAW ordering their OPEN public HANGING!!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 19:17 #
  16. zia m
    Member

    Current Federal Government is formed through coalition.Pervez Ilahi is talking about a period during dictatorship.It is not fair to campare the two.
    Democracy is a slow process it needs time to take its hold.We should be patient.
    I do agree with him on the issue of local government.It was a bad decision to abolish them.I am not sure whose decision was it.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 19:43 #
  17. Anonymous

    @zia m, there is no difference in provincial governments during Pervez Ilhai's time and current times. Pervez Ilahi was not a martial law administrator neither would Musharraf get involved in provincial development projects. Pervez Ilahi did not have 2/3rd majority.

    Current Punjab government is not facing any problems in assembly. Infact, current N-League punjab government does'nt even care about assemblies as Pervez Ilahi pointed out, current government only bothered to present 3 bills in 2 years whereas Pervez Ilahi's government not only presented but passed 37 bills. So that is not a problem.

    Also, N-League accused president of tempering with BB's will. If they can make such ghatya accusations, what is stopping them from asking government about its energy policy?

    Zia m, thanks for discussing the topic and for your relevant posts as opposed to other contributors in this thread who have nothing constructive to say.

    Posted 2 years ago on 10 Sep 2009 19:48 #
  18. PMLQ has started his career in Mush era .
    as it has been created by Mush .
    now with their failure in the general elections and the Mush departure from the country ...
    their role has been nothing but a 12 player.
    they can play a role just in case...

    so Pervaiz Illahi ,no matter ,how great he maybe .
    has no positive or active role so far and in future of the politics of Pakistan.

    thats the ultimate fate for Dictator made parties.
    a living example of urdu mohawara
    ghar ka na ghat ka

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Sep 2009 4:49 #
  19. Anonymous

    Why are we all so obsessed with Musharraf. We all know Chaudhry brothers dont want Musharraf anymore specially after jiss tarah Musharraf ne inn donoo ko last election mein choona lagaya.

    Chaudhry Brothers will continue to win elections and I see a lot of potential in Pervez Ilahi. I also consider Chaudhry Shujaat as the most truthful political leader. He does not lie and he is not a hypocrate like N-Leaguers.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Sep 2009 16:08 #
  20. msohail83
    Member

    "I also consider Chaudhry Shujaat as the most truthful political leader. He does not lie and he is not a hypocrate like N-Leaguers."

    LOLZzzzzzzzzzz

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Sep 2009 16:10 #
  21. Anonymous

    msohail
    Yes, I say again. Chaudhry Shujaat aik sacha aadmi hai, jo N-League waloo kee tarah jhoota nahi hai.

    Posted 2 years ago on 11 Sep 2009 16:14 #
  22. zingaro
    Member

    bsobaid .. i agree with you that Parvez Elahi has raised the points in logical manner. This was his part to question and i am waiting that if someone from PML-N can answer the points. This is certainly pathetic that our government is providing "cheap flour" in the long lines but it is the prime right of every one to get the same subsidy. We have seen that many people even lost their lives for something they thought to continue their lives.

    I am a strong opponent of Q league being party. They have cheated upon the nation for 9 years. This Parvez Elahi said they will make Musharraf elected 10 times in uniform and now they say that he should live abroad. These people are real curses of our politics. We have not forgotten Pasban Cooperative (mr. obaid plz check ur words Ch. Shujat aik sacha admi), Double Shah, Waiver of bank loans, and there can be a long list against these culprits. Hence, Mr. bsobaid i hope you will stick to only logical points and not to try to make us fool and laugh that Q league is party of good people.

    cheers

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Sep 2009 10:47 #
  23. zingaro
    Member

    By the way I was thinking one day that the people with name Parvez (those whom i know) have always worked against Islamic and later Pakistani ideology. The first person in history we see is Parvez (king of Iran) who tore off the message of Prophet Mohammad (SAW). Then I see Parvez (Fitna Inkar-e-Hadith). Next I see Parvez Musharraf, who sold Pakistan for dollars. Please also not forget Parvez Hoodbhoy, US agent against Pakistan's nuclear assets. You have good reasons to add Parvez Elahi in the list. And surprising and astonishing that COAS also includes Parvez....

    What u say guys ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Sep 2009 11:07 #
  24. fasijan
    Member

    AOA

    obaid yeah u r right...

    mush ne jatey jatey Ch brothers ku choona lagaya...
    agar mush aesa naa kerta aur saaf election karwata tu
    am damn sure ke iss time Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi ne hi PM huna tha..
    cuz ju kaam ch pervaiz elahi ne Punjab ke liye ker diye hain.
    yeah N league waly 10 baar bhi gov mae aa jaien tu nahi kar sakty

    ITS MY OPEN CHALLENGE

    do u think ke mush martial law tha..
    u know jub bhi Pakistan mae Army ne Assembly per dhawa boola tu hamesha Pakistan ki tarqi huny ki bejaye pakistan back dated country banta giya..
    ____________________________________________________________
    QURAN-E-PAAK MAE IRSHAAD HAI KE.
    "JIS NE AIK INSAAN KI JAAN BACHAI GOYA USS NE PORI INSANIYA KI JAAN BACHAI"
    ____________________________________________________________

    kiya aap loog nahi samjhty ke RESCUE-1122 jaisi Live Saving Service start ker ke Pervaiz Elahi ne lakhoon insanoo ki jaan bachai
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    ILM HASIL KARO CHAHY TUMHY CHEEN JANA PARY.

    jub N-Leage ke sharif brothers ke paas bhari aksriyat thi assemblies mae tu
    kiya unhoon ne koi ilm doost faisla kiya?

    iss ke badly ch. pervaiz elahi ne MATRIC tuk EDUCATION FREE ker di.
    Ch PErvaiz Elahi ki ILM DOOST POLICIES ki wajha se World Bank jaisey idary ne apni report mae kaha tha ke PUNJAB ka litercy rate almost 200% se bhi ziyada bharh giya.
    if am not wrong.. Ch perviaz Elahi ke door-e-hukamat mae litercy rate 61% tuk puhanch giya tha.

    ju ke abb N league ke ILM DOSSHMNI ki wajha se phir less then 30% ho chuka hai.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    perviaz elahi ne HEALTH & EDUCATION sectors per apni sari tawjoh rakhi
    jub ke
    Shahbaz Sharif govt. ne abhi tuk HEALTH & EDUCATION minister hi nahi rakha.

    lanaat hai yaar... 2 years mae yeah loog HEALTH aur EDUCATION jaisey ahm tareen departments ke head nahi rakh saky tu baqi kaam kiya MANGO karny hain inhoo ne...
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    aur mery jis bhai ne popularity dekhna ho woh
    Election Commission ki official webstie se dekh sakta hai
    2008 ke election mae bhi N league ka Vote bank Q-League se kum tha.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    finally plz remind that em not supporter of any political party..
    its my own thinking ju mae ne likh di..
    kisi ku eitraz hai tu woh bhi likh de.

    aajkal Pervaiz Elahi Fact aur proof ke sath baat ker raha hai so am supporintg him.
    mujhy ju acha lagy ga mae ussy support karoonga.
    haan agar N LEague Pervaiz Elahi se achy kaam ker ke dikha de tu i ll be with them.
    once again OPEN CHALLENGE for N League..: ;)

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Sep 2009 17:22 #
  25. fasijan
    Member

    aajkal main issue
    RENTAL POWER PROJECTS CUROPTION KA HAI

    kiya hum sub bhool chuky hain ke
    rental power projects mae currotpion ki sub se pehly nishandhi Ch. Pervaiz Elahi ny apin Budget Speech mae ki thi

    sub siyastdaan aaj apny number bana rahy hain
    jub ke iss curroption ke bary mae 6 months pehly hi Pervaiz Elahi ne bata diya tha ke pak govt curroption karny jaa rahi

    KASH uss waqt kisi siyasi party ne pervaiz elahi ki baat suni huti ....

    well abb phir pervaiz elahi ne kaha hai ke
    inn rental power projects mae
    petrol ki bejaye sui gas use ho gi.
    jub ke inn ke pasiey petrol diesal ki mad mae liye jaiengy
    iss terha AATA CHEENI KHAAD ke baad abb GAS ka buhran bhi any wala hai..be prepare MAZLOOM AWAB...

    wow great curroption idea of zardari and team

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Sep 2009 17:43 #
  26. GreatPak
    Members

    When u are in opposition then it is very easy to criticise.they were in power for 10 years ,, what they did nothing -- these chaudharies are most corrupt politicians after zardari....
    they have many gangsters badmash -- dakoo -- i know gujrat-- what they did when they were in full power-- these all are ******..
    nawaz league is better choice then these all--

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Sep 2009 18:59 #
  27. @GreatPak
    You can express yourself by avoiding the use of words like '****'. I am removing this from your post.

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Sep 2009 19:07 #
  28. zingaro
    Member

    @FasiJan...

    u know pakistan mein jab bi martial law laga to parvez elahi jaisay logon nay aagey barh kay uska isteqbal kia ..

    u know yahi parvez elahi apny aaqa musharraf kay geet gaatey nahi thaktey thay .. aur 10 baar wardi mein elect karvaaney ki baatein kartey thay.. agar army daur mein pakistan backdated ho jata hay to wo kaun tha jo Musharraf kay army daur ko support karta raha ??

    u know kay jab Musharraf nay insanon ka qatal-e-aam kia to yahi Parvez Elahi us kay chamcha geer ban kay dum daba kay chup rahay ..

    u know kay jab Musharraf nay Pakistanion ko dollars lay kay becha to yahi Parvez Elahi us kay kaasa lais thay...

    u know kay jab Insan parh jata hay to phir dobara iletrate nahi hota aur aap farma rahay hein kay literacy rate dobara 30% ho gia hay .. subhan Allah ..

    u know kay jis popularity ki baat aap kar rahay hein ye wohi election hein jis mein khud aap kay baqaul Musharraf nay chaudries ko choona laga dia ...kia ab bhi yaqeen karein ???

    aur aap hum logon ko Parvez Elahi kay "ehsanaat" tafseeli ginwa key bhi keh rahay hein kay aap Parvez Elahi kay supporter nahi hein ... Daaman ko zara dekh zara band-e-qaba dekh ...

    Cheers

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Sep 2009 20:15 #
  29. misalligned
    Member

    Khuda kay banday apni bharaas kahin aur nikal, bilawaja PMLN ko criticize karo gay to unkay liye symphathy paida ho jai gi.

    Jinoon nain amiriyaat kay sath muahiday kiyay wo ghairat dhika rahay hain zardari kyun nahin ghairat dhika sakta

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Sep 2009 21:05 #
  30. betterpak
    Member

    zingaro bhai jaan
    shayed aap bhool rahy hain ke
    ch brothers elect ho ker assemblies mae aye thy first time

    but nawaz sharif tu Gen Zia ki gudi mae baith ker aya tha
    aur yeah wohi nawaz sharif hai ju Gen Zia ku apna Monh bola baap aur gen zia issy monh boola beta kehta tha.

    yeah wohi nawaz sharif hai jis ne mush ku junior huny ke bawjood chief of army staff banaya..

    yeah wohi nawaz sharif hai jis ke baap ka lohy ka kabarkhana tha

    yeah wohi nawaz sharif hai jis ne apni beti ku merit ki khilaf warzi karty huye kec mae admission karwaya tha

    yeah wohi nawaz sharif hai ju apny sub sathioon ku churh ker
    Saudia ke arabs ki gudi mae jaa baitha tha

    yeah wohi nawaz sharif hai jis ne mush ke sath deal ki thi bahir jany ki

    yeah wohi nawaz sharif hai jis ne apny signature ker ke muker giya
    (hum hamesha kehty hain ke mard ki aik zuban huti hai)
    kiya nawaz sharif mard hai? pehly khud sign kiye aur baad mae mukr giya

    pehly khud saudia ke arabs ku enter kiya aur abb kehta hai ke saudia pak ke internal affaris mae dakhl mut de.

    yeah wohi nawaz sharif hai jis ne taqat ke nashy mae khud ku ameer ul momeen samjhna shuru ker diya

    yeah wohi nawaz sharif hai jis ne hamesha gen zia ke gun gaye.

    wohi hai na yeah nawaz sharif aik mamooli sa LOHAR aur aaj ka indrustlist...?

    wohi hai naa nawaz sharif jis ki Brothers sugar mills hai.
    aur punjab mae cheeni buhran bhi hai..

    yeah wohi nawaz sharif hai naa jis ne ppp ke her leader ku bilawaja jail mae bheja..

    bary miyan bary miyan chuty miyan subhan Allah

    chuty miyan "BADMAASH AALA"
    i was the active member of MSF

    apni her gunda gardi ke liye msf ku use kiya shahbaz sharif

    shahbaz sharif ke yeah alfaaz thy ke "PUNJAB MAE SHAHBAZ SHARIF SE BARA BADMASH KOI NAHI PIADA HO SAKTA"

    aur uss ke baad sari dunia ne dekha ke punjab police ne kis terha chun chun ker shahbaz ke opponents ku fake police encounter mae mara...

    naa jany kitni jawaniyoon ka qatl ker chuka hai yeah shahbaz

    ju gunda shahbaz sharif ke sath ho jata tha woh zinda ju nahi huta tha woh QATAL

    yeah wohi shahbaz sharif hai naa
    jis ne lahore ke CHOHANG Police Station mae
    iss waqt ke governor salman taseer ku ulta latka ker nanga ker apny samny police se maar parwai thi...

    yeah wohi sharif brothers hain naa jinhoon ne bhutto family ku khatum karny ki kasmien khai thein..

    agar kabhi aap ki miyan sahbaan se mulaqat ho tu puchna unhoo se
    ke kis terha dunoo bhaiyoon ne raat pakistan aur punjab per qabza kiya cm aur pm bun ker..

    wohi nawaz sharif hai jis ku ISI paisey deti rahi

    nawaz sharif ke scandles zaradari yaa ch brothers yaa bhutto family se buht ziyada hain

    curroption mse tu sub siyastdaan nawaz sharif ke agey kuch nahi.

    kargil war se army ku wapis bulwany ke dollars ler ker aya tha nawaz sharif apny clinton mamoon abbu se.

    bina election lary Gen Zia ki gudi mae baith ker Majlis Shoora ka member bun giya tha.

    aur phir mamoolis e kabar khany se mills lagna strt ho gaien

    wohi nawaz sharif hai naa jis ne GEO tv ku notoon ke dheer laga diye thy lawyer movement mae

    aur jub pool khula tu zardari ne geo per pabundi laga di for some time.

    kash zardari yeah pool khool deta ke kis terha money transfer huti rahi nawaz sharif ke account se geo ke account mae.

    wohi nawaz sharif hai naa jis ne karachi mae mqm ke hazroon members ku goliyoon se bhool dala

    arey kiya kiya sunoo kiya kiya sunaoon

    my love we need change

    aik General ki gudi mae baither ker siyasat mae aur dusry general ka plane pak mae naa utrny de

    haye yeah tu mujhy 2 monh wala sanp lagta hai:D

    daroo uss waqt se jub Pakistan mae INQUILAAB aye ga aur sub currupt politician ka kachoomar nikly ga.

    come kiyani come and crush all currupt politician

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Sep 2009 22:11 #
  31. @betterpak
    Ager a hi gaey tou limits bhi jante hou gey. Un main tameez say rehna bhi shamil hai. samjh jao!

    Posted 2 years ago on 12 Sep 2009 22:20 #
  32. zingaro
    Member

    betterpk .. thanks for your reply .. but my dear i am unable to understand that this thread was about Parvez Elahi and we have right to point out his mistakes and that is what I did.. Did i try to defend Sharif Bros? Certainly NOT... because I also criticize them for their acts... I don't know why you have written such a long detail addressing to me :) ... I am not Siddiq-ul-farooq to answer your allegations on Sharif brothers... If you wanted to do some thing you could have tried to clarify about Parvez Elahi ...

    Cheers

    p.s. for Mian brothers we can have separate thread ;)

    Posted 2 years ago on 14 Sep 2009 12:15 #
  33. zingaro
    Member

    haan main itna jaanta hoon kay Ch. Zahoor Elahi aik police constable thay ... aur aap ko pata hi hay kay constable ki kia capacity hoti hay ... lakin aaj unkay chashm o charaagh bhi to dekhein kini mills kay maalik hein ...

    Posted 2 years ago on 14 Sep 2009 12:17 #
  34. SufiSoul
    Member

    Actually chaudhary sb sold a piece of land(6000 kanal) at Rs600,000/kanal and the price of land was just RS 70/kanal.
    So this was starting point for chaudahary Bradran.
    In Pakistan first million is the problem after that you should know just how to go up..

    Posted 2 years ago on 14 Sep 2009 19:13 #
  35. Just RS 70/kanal. In what era this could have been acquired!

    Posted 2 years ago on 14 Sep 2009 20:03 #
  36. Anonymous

    http://jang.com.pk/jang/oct2009-daily/14-10-2009/u8338.htm

    Posted 2 years ago on 14 Oct 2009 18:13 #
  37. opposition in our country is just playing a role of a player ,who is sitting in the pavilion while wearing his knee pads and just waiting for his turn ...
    they are least interested in playing a part of a real opposition .
    coz they are not sincere with the nation.
    they rather think to focus on making good terms with US and Pak Army for any further set up in the future...
    while wasting their time on opposing Govt .

    Posted 2 years ago on 15 Oct 2009 4:48 #
  38. shriq
    Member

    BSobaid,

    What did you learn from Mohtram Parvez Ilahi?

    Posted 2 years ago on 15 Oct 2009 9:12 #
  39. zingaro
    Member

    Shariq bhai ... Parvez Elahi sahib say agar koi seekh sakta hay to aamriat ko 10 dafa wardi pehna kay elect karvany kay naarey ... Gujrat mein gunda gardi ... sifaarshi bhartian ... etc jaisi cheezein hein ...

    Posted 2 years ago on 15 Oct 2009 9:39 #
  40. Anonymous

    Q-League is the real opposition. THeir opposition is based on real issues. Rental power projects, governance in Punjab are the two real issues where they have done a good job.

    Posted 2 years ago on 15 Oct 2009 14:40 #
  41. amin1924
    member

    But not to forget q-league's reality. They are a product of establishment and just a temp pressure tactic. It is not a real movement or party, just a bunch of families together to protect their interests.

    Posted 2 years ago on 15 Oct 2009 15:06 #
  42. Anonymous

    aray yaar chor doo onn kee reality aur past. I dont care about past ralities I care about today's reality and today's reality is their substantial presence in national and provincial assemblies.

    Posted 2 years ago on 15 Oct 2009 15:37 #
  43. amin1924
    member

    bhai sb, you are asking to ignore all political analysis/experience and only see what they are saying today?

    If we see things in isolation, then we might not get full picture.

    They are waiting like vulchers for Gen Kayani to overthrow PPP govt and then it will be same old same pml-q.

    Posted 2 years ago on 15 Oct 2009 16:03 #
  44. Anonymous

    May be that is true but what does rental power project and bad governance in Punjab has anything to do with it???

    If they are opposing government on non-issues then we have all the right to not listen to them but if there criticism is based on facts and figures and it is on real issues then there is no reason to doubt their intentions.

    Posted 2 years ago on 15 Oct 2009 16:08 #

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