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Religious intolerance: Ahmadi graves vandalised in posh Lahore neighbourhood

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  1. Shirazi

    Over 100 tombstones were vandalised by masked men at a graveyard of the Ahmadiyya community in an upscale neighbourhood of the city Monday morning.

    Twelve to 15 men, carrying arms and digging tolls, entered the graveyard in Model Town, Q Block, between 1:30am and 1:45am and smashed tombstones of the graves, according to witnesses.

    The vandals told the caretakers that Ahmadis, being non-Muslims, were not allowed to write the Kalima or Bismillah on their tombstones.

    “I was about to take a nap when I heard someone jumping into the graveyard. As I stepped out to inquire, armed men pounced on me. They snatched my gun and roughed me up,” Muhammad Younis, a guard at the graveyard, told The Express Tribune.

    The armed men tied around 20 people – including visitors and families of the caretakers and the guard – with ropes and locked them up in the living quarters of the graveyard before starting vandalism.

    They were speaking Punjabi and Urdu. However, their “leader”, a long-haired and bearded man, had traces of Pashto in his accent, witnesses said. They told the caretakers and guards that they belonged to a banned organisation and the Taliban.

    According to witnesses, the whole vandalism episode lasted for about 35 minutes. The vandals ran away when a policeman from the Ahmadiyya community and a guard at one of their worship places arrived and fired gunshots into the air. The community members said they would file a case

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 11:59 #
  2. Sweettruth

    @shrazi

    Even graveyards are not safe from these religious lunatics.
    Pakistan have reached to the heights of intolerance.
    This is due to Religion and State affairs functioning together. In a decent civilized society, religion should not be involved in State affairs.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 12:03 #
  3. Shirazi

    KARACHI: The Military Estate Office, which assisted a private builder in the demolition of a Hindu temple and houses in Karachi’s Soldier Bazaar, on Saturday continue to deny that the pre-partition house of worship was razed in the operation.

    Despite debris lying all over the compound, the president’s notice and the angered Hindu community’s protests, Director of Military Lands and Cantonment Zeenat Ahmed insisted that the Shri Rama Pir Mandir has not been damaged.

    “Of what I have been told by my people, the temple is still standing and is untouched,” she said. The director said that the deities were all in sound condition. “The people who had deities in their homes had deliberately put them in front of the debris of the damaged houses. This was done to present a wrong picture that the temple was destroyed.”

    She said that the houses were encroachments and they were removed when a builder approached them to assist him in removing illegal occupants from his land. “The temple was already in a bad condition. The encroachers were asked to vacate the land but when they did not, action was taken against them. But the temple, which was already in bad shape, was not touched.”

    Meanwhile, enraged members of the Hindu community said such statements only went further in hurting the sentiments of the minority. A resident of the area, Ashok Kumar, said that it was a joke that the police and some people were denying the demolition of the temple. “Our temple has been damaged but we are getting blamed for staging a drama.”

    http://tribune.com.pk/story/474875/hindu-mandir-controversy-despite-evidence-military-official-denies-temple-demolition/

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 12:08 #
  4. Volcano

    Our sympathies with Qadianis

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 12:09 #
  5. Sweettruth

    @shirazi

    This is shameful; razing minorities worship places and attacking them are an act of utmost insult to minorities living in Pakistan.

    Tolerance is the key to maintain harmony in a civilized society.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 12:11 #
  6. Shirazi

    Pak Army's robery and looting culture was inline with Mehmood Ghaznavi's adventures. Now with demolition of temples they are even closer to their ideal.

    :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 12:14 #
  7. Shirazi

    @Sweettruth Sb

    We are very tolerant when it comes to religious hardliners. Where else likes of Hafiz Saeed and Hakeem Ullah can roam around and flourish like they do in Pakistan? Didn't we offer fundoos from all over the globe to be our guests in Waziristan? They are blowing our schools, markets, check posts and we are cool with that. Only time our tollerance level jumps down when Qadiyanis right Quranic verses on their graves, or Shias mourns in public or Hindus practice their faith. I am curious if Jinnah wasn't born on 25th how we would have celeberated Christmas?

    :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 12:23 #
  8. Sweettruth

    @shirazi

    Intolerance and Pakistan are now two sides of a coin.

    All terrorists and their gang leaders can freely roam in Pakistan. During Afghan fasad of the 1980's and in the last 10 years, Pakistani tribal areas have become safe sanctuaries for hiding and carrying out acts of terrorism.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 12:29 #
  9. Bawa

    قدم بڑھاو مرزاییو - شیرازی تمھارے ساتھ ہے

    :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 14:18 #
  10. Shirazi

    @Bawa Jee

    Were you among the masked men messing with graves to find a better real estate in havens? The jihad on forum ensured Bani Gala estate in havens but perhaps you are not satisfied you want Raiwind estate in havens and that lead you to dig some graves. Please keep your ambitions in check, don't dream of Surrey Palace in havens else you will be deported for pulling something crazy on Canadian soil.

    If I were you I will find some local Ahmedi and just mess with his name plate or license tag to keep my emaan refreshed. Any thing beyond that can bring some legal complications. It will be hard for your Lawyer to explain Canadian Judge how his clients religious needs are fulfilled.

    :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 15:02 #
  11. mkazam

    Declare Pakistan as People Democratic Country , and state should not involve in Religious affairs. GOD will decide our
    fate HIMSELF . This is only solution.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 15:14 #
  12. J.A.Khan

    Sweettruth + Shirazi Bhai

    It's so sad to see that the home is being set on fire by home owner himself. No, my friends this cannot be Islam. It's something very peculiar and self destructive.
    Hopes are surely good, but never fake illusions after creating so much hatred and insult to humanity. God ****, is it really Jinnah's Pakistan? Just forget it. Next two months are very crucial for Pakistan. I remember when Qaim Ali Shah saying challengingly to Nawaz Sharif in Nawabshah Jalsa that "Imagine when 5 karorh Sindhis will be marching towards Panjab!" I see that, unfortunarely, coming as reality to all of us. It will be so sad.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 16:24 #
  13. Abdul Rahman

    What is this posh Lahore neigborhood. Do we have elite class even after death? This shows the ignorance.

    Whoever claims to follow Islam must know that the Muslim burial is simplest and most ecologically and enviromentally acceptable in the world. Problems start when the graves are "built and decorated". There is no need for gravestone let alone any structure on graves. The pagan customs have encrouched in Muslim burial. Once you stop these pagan burials half of the problems will disappear. If there is no grave itself there is no question of vandalism.

    I was in a Muslim country and happened to be at graveyard where a young Pakistani doctor was being buried after heart attack. The relatives and friends got some incense, sandalwood powder, flowers, rose water, zam zam etc and start pouring on top of the shroud. The grave digger shouted in Arabic: stop this non sense. The only thing that goes along with the deceased is his Amaal-good deeds and rest are all waste. He requested the relatives to donate the money to the poor than spend on useless things which has nothing to do with Islam. The donated money for just cause on behalf of the deceased will help the deceased in the grave by elevating his or her position in after life.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 16:50 #
  14. Sweettruth

    d@AR

    Apart from building and decorating graves, sandalwood powder, flowers, rose water, zam zam etc. do you condemn this act of vandalsim and religious intolerance in Lahore?

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 16:59 #
  15. Abdul Rahman

    ST,

    Pagan acts invite pagan response. Having said that Islam does NOT sanction mutilation of dead whether on ground or in grave.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 17:05 #
  16. J.A.Khan

    Sweettruth

    Just take easy and keep smiling. You have no chance with this kind of creed. :):)

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 17:33 #
  17. Abdul Rahman

    I have lived with your kind of creed most of my life and know these creatures bottoms up and can handle them and put them in their right place.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 17:40 #
  18. adnak

    Oh! Khan jee

    Beware, make a call of SOS, Talib has become angry.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 17:49 #
  19. fear

    طالب کبی مالشی نہیں ہوتا یہ اس کی پیچاں ہے . امریکا میں بھی رہتا ہے لیکن کبی مالش نہیں کرتا .

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 17:54 #
  20. fear

    ادناک بھائی
    اپ مرے مرنے کے بعد میری قبر کو ملیا میٹ کر کے یہاں پہ ٹوپک پوسٹ کر دینا کے میں آج احمدیوں کا بدلہ لے لیا ہے .. قبرستان کچھ عرصے بعد ویسے ہی ختم ہو جاتے ہیں . نۓ لوگ ان کی جگا ا جاتے ہیں.
    شیرازی بھائی صاحب پتا نہیں کیا بتانا چاہا رہے ہیں

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 18:11 #
  21. adnak

    جی نہیں فئیر جی - مالش سب کرتے ہیں' کوئ کسی کی کرتا تو کوئ کسی اور کی کرتا ہے - بہتر یہی ہوتا ہے کہ جسکے ٹکڑوں پر کوئ پل رہا ہو تو یا تو اسکی مالش کرے یا اسکے ٹکڑوں پر پلنا چھوڑ دے ورنہ پھر نمک حرامی والی بات ہو جائے گی

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 18:12 #
  22. fear

    جسکے ٹکڑوں پر کوئ پل رہا ہو تو یا تو اسکی مالش کرے یا اسکے ٹکڑوں پر پلنا چھوڑ دے ورنہ پھر نمک حرامی والی بات ہو جائے گی
    --------------------------------------------------------
    الارض للہ

    پالتا ہے بیج کو مٹی کو تاریکی میں کون
    کون دریاؤں کی موجوں سے اٹھاتا ہے سحاب؟

    کون لایا کھینچ کر پچھم سے باد سازگار
    خاک یہ کس کی ہے ، کس کا ہے یہ نور آفتاب

    کس نے بھردی موتیوں سے خوشۂ گندم کی جیب؟
    موسموں کو کس نے سکھلائی ہے خوئے انقلاب؟

    دہ خدایا! یہ زمیں تیری نہیں ، تیری نہیں
    تیرے آبا کی نہیں ، تیری نہیں ، میری نہیں!۔

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 18:18 #
  23. fear

    نہیں سمجے ادناک پی جی ساری زمین الله کی ہے . کوئی کسی کی نمک حرامی نہیں کر سکتا جب تک وہ خود مالش نہ کرے ... طالب کبی مالش نہیں کرتے .. ڈالروں کے لئے

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 18:19 #
  24. J.A.Khan

    adnak

    You believe me, reading that funny chap's lines Iburst into laughter like anything. It shows you how such fanatics and lost members of the society can be!!! That was really good one, and my first lovely laugh of today. God bless even this poor sod.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 18:23 #
  25. Abdul Rahman

    Laughs, fun, vacations. That's all these creatures are capable of in this world. May God pity on this souls-Amen

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 18:39 #
  26. فارغ جذباتی

    میں اس گھٹیا حرکت کی مذمت کرتا ہوں اور جس کسی نے بھی قبروں کی بیحرمتی کی ہے اس کو قانون کے مطابق سخت سزا ملنی چاہئے

    جو لوگ اس گھٹیا حرکت کی مذمت نہیں کر رہے اور اس کیلئے مختلف جواز ڈھونڈ رہے ہیں انکو اپنے طرز عمل پر دوبارہ غور کرنا چاہئے اور سوچنا چاہئے کہہ معاشروں میں متشدد رویوں پر آنکھیں بند کرنے سے اور ان کے مختلف جواز ڈھونڈنے سے اور جواز مہیا کرنے سے اور غیر قانونی ، غیر اخلاقی اور غیر اسلامی کام جو کہ معاشروں میں فتنہ فساد کا موجب بنتا ہے کو پروان چڑھانے سے وہ اللہ تعالیٰ کے غضب اور اسکے رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کی ناراضگی کو دعوت دے رہے ہیں

    ف ج

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 18:48 #
  27. J.A.Khan

    Oh, some more laughter. That's so kind of some people who make other people laugh, but can't laugh themselves. Perhaps it's not allowed in their religion. Must be a very serious kind of religion. However, thank you again. That was really nice.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 18:48 #
  28. J.A.Khan

    Fj-Pak

    By delivering this great gesture towards human respect and dignity you really have made my day. This is actually the real beauty of real Islam. Well done. God bless you in every respect. Cheers

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 18:52 #
  29. Abdul Rahman

    I wish not to laugh but not there yet but still try to emulate Saladin who refused to smile let alone laugh until Jerusalem and Masjid Al Aqsa and inhabitants of that land were under occupation.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 18:55 #
  30. Sweettruth

    Topic of this thread is vandalism of a minority graveyard and which is shameful and deserve condemnation as well as catching criminals.

    DO NOT deviate from thread topic.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:00 #
  31. Abdul Rahman

    This should not have been a topic at all in the first place. When minorities who are alive are not safe due to corruption and lawlessness and inept government it is foolish to discuss minorities resting in graves.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:04 #
  32. Bawa

    شیرازی جی

    ہم منہ لپیٹ کر نہیں باقائدہ اعلان کرکے گڑھی خدا بخش جائیں گے اور کتبے نہیں اتاریں گے بلکہ لاشیں قبر سے نکال کر التی لٹکائیں گے

    ابھی ہم انتظار کر رہے ہیں کہ کوئی کوڑھی یا جیالہ دختر مردود چورنی بے نظیر کے لوٹے ہوئے ساٹھ ملین ڈالرز شرافت سے واپس کر دے

    :) :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:06 #
  33. adnak

    Fear jee

    The following post of yours was difficult for me to understand. کبھی کبھی کوئ شوق تو نہیں رکھتے آپ؟ . I am serious.

    "ادناک بھائی
    اپ مرے مرنے کے بعد میری قبر کو ملیا میٹ کر کے یہاں پہ ٹوپک پوسٹ کر دینا کے میں آج احمدیوں کا بدلہ لے لیا ہے .. قبرستان کچھ عرصے بعد ویسے ہی ختم ہو جاتے ہیں . نۓ لوگ ان کی جگا ا جاتے ہیں.
    "

    "ساری زمین الله کی ہے"

    اسکا یہ مطلب نکالنا کہ ساری زمین ہماری ہے جہالت ہے

    "... طالب کبی مالش نہیں کرتے "

    طالب مالش کرتے ہیں' ملا عمر کی اور کمبخت محسود کی

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:06 #
  34. Rohail Taqi

    No000orray haramzadon k karnamay hain yeh

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:13 #
  35. Rohail Taqi

    Apnay baap ziaulhaq ke sath mil kar Jo beej haramzadon nai boya uss ka phal Pakistan aaj kha raha hai

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:15 #
  36. J.A.Khan

    Bawa Jee ASA

    Bhai, itna ghussa?

    Men bhi aapkai saath chaloon ga. Lekin sirf apnai watan ko mubarakbaad denai kai liey.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:16 #
  37. junaid

    "They are blowing our schools, markets, check posts and we are cool with that"

    stop calling yourself as 'We'. ex-pakistani or sold out korhis have nothing to do with pakistan. stop fueling korhiism on this board, i am sure there are bunch of your masters forums for your hate game.

    "اسکا یہ مطلب نکالنا کہ ساری زمین ہماری ہے جہالت ہے"

    inorder to understand what fear ji is saying you need to revert to islam

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:16 #
  38. Bawa

    و علیکم السلام - خان بھائی جی

    ساٹھ ملین ڈالرز کوئی چھوٹی رقم ہے؟ لوگ تو سو روپے کی خاطر قتل کر دیتے ہیں

    اتنے پیسوں میں تو دس نسلیں بھی ختم کر دیں تو کم ہے

    ابھی انتظار کر رہے ہیں. شاید بے نظیر کے کسی کوڑھی بھائی کو شرم آ جائے ورنہ پھر ہم تو پیسے پورے کرنا جانتے ہیں

    جب بھی گڑھی خدا بخش گئے آپکو ضرور لیکر جائیں گے اور لاش کو الٹا لٹکانے کا نیک کام آپ کے دست مبارک سے ہی کروائیں گے

    :) :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:26 #
  39. adnak

    junaid jee

    Why don't you revert to Islam first. The schools, markets and check posts are blown up by your masters, the talibani cult. You cannot make fool of the people. Bawa jee rightly named your types as Korhi mullas. Ask yourself and your Masters to stop fueling korhiism on this board. And finally, don't do malish of Fear jee, he don't like it.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:32 #
  40. J.A.Khan

    Bawa Jee

    Men intehaaii kamzor dil ka insan hoon, aur phir humanist bhi hoon. Chunanchai ye kaam aap hi anjaam dijiey ga. Lekin Zardari bhi kachchi golian nahin khelai huwey hai. Barhi mohabbat kai saathe aur barhi khamoshi sai dasna janta hai. Zara khial rakhiey ga.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:40 #
  41. Sweettruth

    @Abdul Rahman

    According to you:

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    This should not have been a topic at all in the first place. When minorities who are alive are not safe due to corruption and lawlessness and inept government it is foolish to discuss minorities resting in graves.

    What if some one does this vandalism to your relatives graveyards?

    OR if this happens to a majority graveyard?

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:44 #
  42. junaid

    adnak ji

    sorry, for i couldnt write the whole thing as
    "inorder to understand what fear ji is saying you need to revert to islam FIRST.
    i can understand your hatred for muslims but all i can say is just read this quote "stop fueling korhiism on this board, i am sure there are bunch of your masters forums for your hate game. "

    this will might reduce your jealously

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:45 #
  43. adnak

    junaid jee

    As I said before, please do consider reverting to Islam first.

    Mullahs are not Islam nor Islam is mullaism.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:48 #
  44. Sweettruth

    Why Pakistani society is becoming so intolerant and indifferent on vandalism of a minorities graveyard?

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:50 #
  45. Abdul Rahman

    ST, I wont worry at all about that treatment to the dead. My close relative dont even have a grave but levelled ground. No one knows the spot except my brothers. So there is no question of vandalism. I wont care if the land is ploughed for vegetation/produce. But heard it should be after 3 generations.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:55 #
  46. adnak

    Because of Talibani type of Islam. Bye for the day

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 19:56 #
  47. J.A.Khan

    adnak + Sweettruth

    It's really good to have this Talibani on this forum. At least he offers us something to laugh. Both of you know how to deal with this funny chap. I have started to accept him as such, by the way.

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 20:36 #
  48. Shirazi

    @AR Saab

    "Whoever claims to follow Islam must know that the Muslim burial is simplest and most ecologically and environmentally acceptable in the world. Problems start when the graves are "built and decorated". There is no need for gravestone let alone any structure on graves."
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    What about Roza e Rasool?

    :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 23:40 #
  49. Shirazi

    @Bawa Jee

    Please make up your mind, you need 60 Million dollars or heads of Qadiyanis or tongues of Kohris?

    :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 23:42 #
  50. Shirazi

    @FJ Saab

    When are you officially joining the Kohri club? You seems to be in mood of crossing the aisle.

    :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 23:44 #
  51. Shirazi

    @Junaid bahi

    "inorder to understand what fear ji is saying you need to revert to islam"
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    That's why I am on this forum. Alhamdullah, Thanks to you I am all set to renew my vouse and passport.

    :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 04 Dec 2012 23:48 #
  52. Hakka Bakka

    Shirazi@
    We are very tolerant when it comes to religious hardliners. Where else likes of Hafiz Saeed and Hakeem Ullah can roam around and flourish like they do in Pakistan? Didn't we offer fundoos from all over the globe to be our guests in Waziristan?
    ==================================
    جناب شیرازی صاحب
    ہماری ' ٹولرنس ' یا رواداری کی کیا بات ہے - ہماری رواداری کا تو یہ عالم ہے کہ ہم اپنے مزائلوں کے نام (ابدالی مزائل وغیرہ) ایسے لوگوں کے نام پر رکھتے ہیں جنھوں نے ہمارے شہروں کو لوٹ کر تباہ و برباد کر دیا تھا - ہم تو شروع ہی سے اپنے دشمنوں اور قاتلوں کو عزت دینے کے لئے تاریخ کے صفحے بھی اتھل پتھل کر دیتے ہیں

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Dec 2012 0:45 #
  53. Bawa

    شیرازی جی

    ہمارے ساٹھ ملین ڈالرز ہمیں دے دیں

    ہم نے لٹرین کی گندگی میں لت پت سروں اور غلیظ کوڑھیوں کو کیا کرنا ہے؟

    اور ہاں - آج سے ہم نے "رواداری" کو فروغ دینے کے لیے اپنے میزائلوں کے نام بدل کر "لٹرین مقدس میزائل"، "مرزا کانا میزائل'" اور "خلیفہ غلیظ مسرور میزائل" رکھ دیے ہیں

    امید ہے اب کسی کو میزائلوں کے نام پر اعتراض نہیں ہوگا

    :) :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Dec 2012 1:39 #
  54. Rizwan Qaimkhani

    Our sympathies with Qadianis

    Is it official collective statment of PMLN and all the religious parties.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Dec 2012 1:40 #
  55. Rizwan Qaimkhani

    These B A S T A R D S talibans and their sympathizers can go to any length. These culprits should be punished for such demeaning act.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Dec 2012 1:41 #
  56. Volcano

    These B A S T A R D S bhatta khors and their sympathizers can go to any length. These culprits should be punished for such demeaning act.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Dec 2012 1:46 #
  57. junaid

    کوڑھیوں کی تاریخ انگریز اور ہندو اکاون کی سیوا سے بھری ہوئی ہے - اگر یہ تاریخی محمود اور دوسرے ہیرو نہ ہوتے تو آج سا رے بندروں کی پوجا کرہے ہوتے - اسلام دشمن کوڑھیوں کی نام

    ایک ہی صف می کھڑے ہوگے محمود و ایاز
    نہ کوئی بندہ رہا نہ کوئ بندہ نواز

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Dec 2012 1:46 #
  58. Rizwan Qaimkhani

    Volcano,
    I didn't know that you are taliban sympathizer, but thanks for identifying yourself as "TALIBAN".

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Dec 2012 1:54 #
  59. Abdul Rahman

    Shirazi "What about Roza e Rasool?"

    This is knee jerk reaction without knowing the facts. The grave was separate at that time but the masjid expanded and grave came within the Masjid much later. Most of the domes and minarets are from the time of Ottomans who were themselves monument builders as you can see what their Mughal cousins did in sub-continent.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Dec 2012 2:57 #
  60. Shirazi

    @AR Saab

    Your words

    " Problems start when the graves are "built and decorated". There is no need for gravestone let alone any structure on graves."
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I am not saying who did what and when. I am asking what should we do now about Roza e Rasool? Per your apprehensions there is a problem, there is a structure built around simple grave that has been decorated.

    Posted 2 years ago on 05 Dec 2012 3:11 #

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