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Revolution and/ or Therapy?

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  1. raheb
    Member

    Revolution or Therapy?

    Both words represent "CHANGE". Revolution on a broader scale, more collective and Therapy more individualistic, deeper and long lasting.
    Our society is mature enough to go through both of it. A revolution for a collective change in society is BADLY NEEDED. Although a revolution has its price, but it is definitely less expensive than to have it not. After revolution process of therapy is needed, and start will be from Homes, mothers, fathers and society which laid foundations of a kid, a future of Nation.
    After revolution the most important factor should be to remove 'therapy resistent elements'. In this catagory first of all our almost all present political elite is involved. They should be neutralized, and if needed should be HANGED.
    They are therapy resistent as No time, No crises on nation, No age related learning has occured and they still continue to suck the blood of nation, so they should be removed att any cost, and among them is so called 'religious elie and its related all mulla'ism should be uprooted. By saying that I do not mean ISLAM, as it is our identity. We cannot EXIST without Islam, but we can definitely live more secure and happy without mulla'ism.... the so called islam which our 'religious/ political parties like Jamiat and Jamaat.
    Anyone can note that there own definitions of Islam is not one and same.
    Those who take over after Revolution, has the first DUTY to start with Therapy on individual basis, from homes and schools. This process is long and make take at least 30- 35 years...to built a real Islamic Nation from Pakistan, dreamed by Iqbal and laid grounds by Quaid.

    Let this topic to be discussed thoroughly among this forum.

    raheb

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Dec 2010 20:22 #
  2. raheb
    Member

    HOW MANY of YOU have read it?

    raheb

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Dec 2010 18:07 #
  3. expakistani
    Member

    i would support bloody Revolution... kill those who are power and money corrupt... kill them with their next 3 generations...
    let the people of sindh play football with head of balwal zardari in larkan

    vollyball at liberty market with sharifs head....and in gujrat chodries grand daughter would do mujra while monis elhis dead body is haning with light pool

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Dec 2010 19:44 #
  4. nsdap
    Member

    @ expakistani

    Have you ever touched a gun? Ever fired it? Ever killed someone with it?

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Dec 2010 21:07 #
  5. expakistani
    Member

    @nsdap
    yeah kon sa tariqa hey iqbal e jurm kerwanye ka? and you dont need gun to bring bloody Revolution... use danda lathi, meti ka teel...

    sound like you belongs to group of people in Pakistan who are happy living in hell?

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Dec 2010 21:29 #
  6. nsdap
    Member

    @ expakistani

    The middle class, which usually has no guts for some hardcore fighting, rants the most about a bloody revolution.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Dec 2010 21:39 #
  7. expakistani
    Member

    you are absolutely wrong here ... in history of Pakistan from creation to the last successful movement against Pervaiz Musharaf middle class was on the road ...yes leadership may not be from middle class thats why a complete revolution wasnt possible.

    Posted 1 year ago on 27 Dec 2010 0:53 #
  8. Isn't revolution a form of therapy? Therapy is a way to change minds, revolution does the same.
    There are no therapy resistant elements, if you take them all as mentally ill or psycho they are all curable. Revolution is the therapy which is needed in our case.

    Posted 1 year ago on 29 Dec 2010 14:51 #
  9. raheb
    Member

    It is very interesting to note that very few people commented on this topic. Probably very few opened it and read it. One can interprete, why it is so???? It do reflect us and our way of seeing and thinking. Whole this post is to see and think about future of nation, BUT most of do not have any VISION.
    As I said before most of people on this forum are FUN SEEKERS, you can see "Sher o Nagma" or "Jokes". Second catagory is "After CLEVERS" who can just condemn and comments on happnings of now and past, BUT they have nothing to come with any new vision, how to do and what to do with country?
    Another catagory is who just "bubbled up" of emotions against some party, leader, sect or province etc. and they just appear here to do their Catharsis (just spit) and feel relieve in stomach. Fourht catagory is Mulla's (The ALL GOOD and Truth knowers) they just here to do Tablig of their own Islam and have NO Solution for naything than to say "sharait nafaz". They are here not to discuss but to teach.

    YET we are expecting and wondering why country is suffering?
    Because we do not have any VISION, we have NOTHING to discuss about such posts as it is boring.
    FACT is EVERYONE of us (including me) are responsible for destruction of country and Ummah on broader perspective. WHY not we should have corrupted elite? This is elite is from us itself. Leaders? From where a leader shall come? We have produced these leaders.
    We are searching murdrers, but check it, WE have blood on our own hands.

    Lastly to H20!!! I hace briefly mentioned the difference between Revolution and Therapy. It is NOT one and same thing exactly. It is not motive to involve in difference of definition between these 2 words, mainthing is to think and start some sort of vision, for future, both on personal life and collective society.

    raheb

    Posted 1 year ago on 01 Jan 2011 20:51 #
  10. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    Rehabilitation is the only way.
    A slow but actual process of regaining the skills.
    Only PPP has capacity of some Revolution but its command is not in right hands and also it can rehabilitate better if there is a desire but I think that ruling elite doesn't understand these things.

    Posted 1 year ago on 01 Jan 2011 22:33 #
  11. Raheb Why dont you comment on useful threads created by others on PKP?

    Posted 1 year ago on 02 Jan 2011 19:29 #
  12. raheb
    Member

    Life! why you are skipping from this "useful thread"?
    Which "useful threads" you are talking about?
    As I have described in my last post. there are certain catagories of participants, and most of them unimpressive and irrelavant. It is very SUBJECTIVE that which is useful thread and which is NOT? For example what to comment on Sher o Nagma, those who are fun-seekers?
    I don't think that this forum is mature enough to make any change or therapy in anyone. I feel to leave it soon.

    raheb

    Posted 1 year ago on 02 Jan 2011 20:01 #
  13. We are not therapy resistant. We are already passing through many therapies. One biggest therapist is our media now. Don't you see any change since media brought more awareness to general public?

    You have put everyone here in categories (categories may fit right) and asking others to comment in. If this thread is 'useful' many threads by shimatoree are also useful. Why don't you often comment on them?

    Posted 1 year ago on 02 Jan 2011 20:21 #
  14. raheb
    Member

    Life! I am afraid, you may miss the meaning of what therapy is? I don't think we are passing through some therapy, rather we need more and more therapies. Media!!!hmmm, throwing anything out from media can have sometime negative effects. I think we lack a more structured media and quality of it needed to be raised than what it is today. Awareness of general public is good for a revolution, which is badly needed, but sometimes media put its words in the ears of public rather than to let them build their own opinion and handling.
    NO my intention was NOT to catagories people, but rather to point out a trend, now it is upto ownself if anyone find himself/herself in certain catagory, and even if it so, what's wrong in it? One can try to CHANGE.

    One poor factor I have mentioned for this forum is that there are Lot of topics going on parallelly, so I and may be many others have no chance to follow every post thoroughly. I have to be selective, and by that I may miss some interesting and important posts as you mentioned. I should prefer lesser topics but better quality rather than 30-50 posts goign on at the same time. So I don't really know which posts you mean? Whenever I find something which I have some opinion, I do share, but as said I cannot follow all.

    Lastly,Anwer Kamal suggested "Rehabilitation is the only way", Yes to certain extent I agree, but only problem is there should be a "Habilitation first before, otherwise there can not be any Re-habilitation, and I am not shower if we have good enough habilitation.

    raheb

    Posted 1 year ago on 02 Jan 2011 22:21 #
  15. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    Perhaps you are too young.
    People of Pakistan were well mannered people some decades before. Good habits,struggling
    but the corruption, Military and Mullah destroyed us.

    Posted 1 year ago on 02 Jan 2011 23:06 #
  16. raheb
    Member

    Thanks Anwer! well I am not young and have seen that period also. I won't agree with your argument. If good habits were there, where that gone now? Can a corrupt person make a good person corrupt? You accuse military and mullah, but they also belong to us. They did not force any corruption on anyone. If i have potential to become a bad, then I can get strength from outside, but if I am not, NO external person, profession, party or organization can make me corrupt.
    So I may say again probably Habilitation was not there correctly, by that Re-habilitation is not as much possible or easy.

    raheb

    Posted 1 year ago on 03 Jan 2011 19:32 #

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