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Revolution --Next Stop Syria and Yemen

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  1. Faarigh Jazbati

    AoA All

    Inshallah next two regimes who will be toppled very soon will be Syria and Yemen.

    And the days of illigitmate state of israel are numbered.

    After the muslim dictators, occupiers are next.


    Posted 5 years ago on 11 Feb 2011 18:05 #
  2. bsobaid

    Good news.. Yemeni president has already announced not to participate in the upcoming elections.

    Middle East is entering in phase 2.
    First phase coming to end where Army itself was ruling. In the second phase their armies becomes Pakistani establishment.

    The democratically elected governments will think they have the power but army will give them a reality check. Then there will be pro-establishment political parties (IJI) and anti-establishment (aka security risk, Isreali agent). There will be skirmishes between these parties.

    Posted 5 years ago on 11 Feb 2011 18:15 #
  3. bsobaid

    The key is for democratic forces to take complete control in their hand, although this wont happen anytime soon. Army may give up the presidential palace but make no mistake, they wont give up their powers to bloody civilians.

    Democratic forces can expedite the transfer of power process through good governance but in all cases, it will take some time.

    abhi abhi aik qataa kee aamid hoee hai, paish-e-khidmatt hai.

    Sultani-e-Jamhoor kaa d'aur abhi aaya nahi
    chilmann se parday ko abhi othaya nahi
    Wasl kaa mousam aanay koo hai Obaid
    Mayoosi kaa Omeedoo pay abb koi saaya nahi

    Posted 5 years ago on 11 Feb 2011 18:27 #
  4. Faarigh Jazbati


    I took the liberty to transliterate your poetry in urdu

    سلطانی جمہور کا دور ابھی آیا نہیں
    چلمن سے پردے کو ابھی اٹھایا نہیں
    وصل کا موسم آنے کو ہے عبید
    مایوسیوں کا امیدوں پہ اب کوئی سایہ نہیں


    Posted 5 years ago on 11 Feb 2011 18:32 #
  5. bsobaid

    bohot shuriya Faarigh. I am hopeless in urdu typing.

    Posted 5 years ago on 11 Feb 2011 18:34 #
  6. Faarigh Jazbati


    No probs. try this and its very easy


    Posted 5 years ago on 11 Feb 2011 18:35 #
  7. bsobaid

    woww..this is awesom faarigh. Thank you very much

    سلطانی جمہور کا دور ابھی آیا نہیں
    چلمن سے پردے کو ابھی اٹھایا نہیں
    وصل کا موسم ابھی آنے کو ہے عبید
    موسمے رنگ و بو ابھی چھایا نہیں

    Posted 5 years ago on 11 Feb 2011 18:37 #
  8. expakistani

    Next step should be responsibility.... see what happened in Pakistan, After Mush we have Zardari and 40 choor

    Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 3:01 #
  9. Today, keep your eyes trained on Algeria. A protester march through the capital Algiers amid the presence of a 30.000-strong police force.

    On Monday, 14th Feb, we are expecting something similar in Bahrein. And never forget Yemen where the people protest movement has been ongoing all this while.

    For Pakistan, if all goes well, its March 11 when we should kick off our occupation of the streets.

    Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 7:50 #
  10. Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 8:48 #
  11. Scandinavian



    Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 9:22 #
  12. Me, too, Scandinavian, me, too: Inshallah and Ameen!

    Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 10:26 #
  13. iamsowise

    Will Pakistan Follow Egypt's Example?

    Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 11:05 #
  14. KHAN_Sahib

    Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 13:14 #
  15. KHAN_Sahib

    Armed Yemeni Government Supporters Break Up Protest

    SANAA (Reuters) - Pro-government demonstrators armed with knives and batons broke up a protest on Saturday by around 2,000 Yemenis inspired by the overthrow of Egypt's president.

    Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh, trying to ward off protests spreading across the Arab world, has promised to step down when his term ends in 2013, but the opposition has yet to respond to his call to join a unity government. The opposition wants talks to take place under Western or Gulf Arab auspices.

    As well as sporadic protests, the Arabian Peninsula state is also struggling with a secessionist movement in the south, a shaky cease-fire with Shi'ite rebels in the north and a resurgent al Qaeda presence, all against a backdrop of chronic poverty.

    Some 300 anti-government student demonstrators assembled at Sanaa University on Saturday morning. As numbers swelled into the thousands, they began marching towards the Egyptian embassy.

    "The people want the fall of the government," protesters chanted. "A Yemeni revolution after the Egyptian revolution."

    But a group of government supporters armed with knives and sticks confronted the protesters at the central Tahrir Square. Scuffles broke out and the protesters were forced to flee. Two people were lightly injured, witnesses said.

    The clash came after armed men forced around 300 anti-government protesters to quit an impromptu demonstration in the Yemeni capital on Friday night.

    Yemeni authorities detained at least 10 people after anti-government protesters in Sanaa celebrated Mubarak's downfall on Friday, U.S.-based Human Rights Watch said.

    The group said the celebrations turned to clashes when hundreds of men armed with assault rifles, knives and sticks attacked the protesters while security forces stood by.

    "The Yemeni security forces have a duty to protect peaceful protesters," said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. "In this case, security forces seem to have organised armed men to attack the protesters."

    Yemen's ruling party set up tents in Sanaa's central Tahrir Square last week to occupy the space and prevent people from gathering in large numbers.

    Party officials handed out small amounts of money to reward pro-government protesters on Saturday. Some used the cash to buy food or Qat, a mild green stimulant leaf that more than half of Yemen's 23 million people chew daily and which has been cited as a deterrent to protest.

    On Saturday, Yemen said it respected the choice of the Egyptian people and would support them in their search for progress and development.

    (Reporting by Mohamed Sudam, Mohammed Ghobari and Khaled Abdallah; Writing by Martina Fuchs; Editing by Cynthia Johnston and Jon Hemming)

    Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 14:25 #
  16. KHAN_Sahib

    Algeria: Thousands Turn Out for Pro-Reform Protest

    ALGIERS, Algeria (AP) — Thousands of riot police tried to seal off the Algerian capital on Saturday to prevent activists from holding a banned pro-democracy rally a day after Egypt's authoritarian leader was toppled.

    Police blocked off streets in Algiers and set up security barricades at strategic points along the march route and outside the city to try to stop busloads of demonstrators from reaching the capital. Armed police were also posted near newspaper headquarters.

    Despite the massive deployment, thousands of people defied the government ban, flooding into downtown Algiers where they faced some skirmishes with police. Some arrests were reported as police tried to disperse the crowd.

    Protesters chanted slogans including "No to the police state" and "Bouteflika out," — a reference to President Abdelaziz Bouteflika, who has led this sprawling North African nation since 1999.

    Under Algeria's long-standing state of emergency — in place since 1992 — protests are banned in Algiers, but repeated government warnings for people to stay away Saturday fell on deaf ears.

    Still, news reports suggested security forces outnumbered demonstrators. The Algerian daily La Liberte said some 30,000 riot police had been deployed in the capital, while organizers estimated 10,000 came to march.

    The march comes at a sensitive time — just a day after an uprising in Egypt forced Hosni Mubarak to resign after 30 years in power and merely a month after another "people's revolution" in neighboring Tunisia forced longtime autocrat Zine El Abidine Ben Ali into exile on Jan. 14.

    The success of those uprisings is fueling hope for change in Algeria, although many in this conflict-scarred nation fear any prospect of violence after living through a brutal Islamist insurgency in the 1990s that left an estimated 200,000 dead.

    Saturday's march focused on reforms pushing Algeria toward democracy but did not include a specific call to oust Bouteflika. It was organized by the Coordination for Democratic Change in Algeria, an umbrella group for human rights activists, unionists, lawyers and others.

    Still, a markedly anti-government sentiment was in the air Saturday. Under the headline "Mubarak pushed from power," a cartoon in La Liberte showed the score Egypt-1, Algeria-0 and a fan waving an Algerian flag saying "we've got to tie the score."

    The atmosphere in Algeria has been tense since early January, when people took to the streets in five days of rioting over rising food prices. In a bid to quell tensions, the government announced it would slash the price of sugar and cooking oil.

    Poverty is endemic, despite Algeria's vast oil and gas reserves, and anger over unemployment and a lack of opportunities also helped fuel last month's riots.

    Mindful of the Tunisian protests, Algerian authorities announced last week that the country's nearly two-decade-long state of emergency will be lifted in the "very near future." However, authorities warned that even then the ban on demonstrations in the capital would remain.

    The army's decision to cancel Algeria's first multiparty legislative elections in January 1992 to thwart a likely victory by a Muslim fundamentalist party set off the insurgency. Scattered violence continues.

    Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 14:32 #
  17. KHAN_Sahib

    Arab Leaders, Facing Calls for Reform, Consider Next Move
    BEIRUT — Across the Arab world on Friday, thousands of people poured into the streets to celebrate the resignation of President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt after nearly three weeks of demonstrations against his almost 30-year rule.

    In Beirut, gunfire broke out and crowds of people waved Egyptian flags. In Yemen, they gathered in front of the Egyptian Embassy chanting, “Wake up rulers, Mubarak fell today.” In Gaza, they fired shots in the air and set off fireworks.

    But in a telling sign of the divide between the rulers and the ruled, the region’s leaders, presidents and monarchs remained largely silent.

    The popular uprising that started four weeks ago in Tunisia had claimed its second autocratic government, this time in the largest country in the Arab world. With more protests planned in coming days, some governments were clearly worried they could be next.

    “All the regimes are shaking now,” said Fawaz Traboulsi, a prominent Lebanese writer and columnist. “They are becoming more and more fragile. This is just the beginning.”

    Several leaders met with their advisers late into the night on Friday, devising strategies for coping with the demands for change in their own countries. While those meetings were private, their public responses so far have relied on a combination of tactics including denunciations of the protesters as foreign-led, offers of monetary and other concessions to undercut complaints of injustice, and the generous deployment of tear gas, truncheons and other blunt instruments of repression.

    Saudi Arabia has been the most outspoken in its opposition to the protesters, assailing those in Egypt for what it described as foreign meddling in Egypt’s affairs.

    King Abdullah accused the Egyptian protesters last week of “meddling in the security and stability of Arab and Muslim Egypt.” And the foreign minister, Prince Saud al-Faisal, said Thursday in Morocco that he was astonished “at what we see as interference in the internal affairs of Egypt by some countries.”

    In Bahrain, King Hamad Bin Isa al-Khalifa on Friday ordered the equivalent of $2,650 be given to every Bahraini family. He is facing a “Day of Rage” protest on Monday. Analysts there say he may announce reforms in a speech on Saturday.

    “Arab people discovered their ability to make change,” said Nabeel Rajab, a human rights activist in Bahrain. “And with Egypt in the leadership once again, the change will reach all the Arab world.”

    In Yemen, after protests that drew thousands into the streets of the capital, Sana, on Friday, President Ali Abdullah Saleh was expected to announce more concessions soon, opposition leaders said. Last week, he declared that he would suspend constitutional amendments allowing him to remain in power for life, a longstanding demand of the Islamist-led opposition, and promised that his son would not inherit his rule.

    He has also raised salaries for the military and civil servants, cut income taxes in half and ordered price controls.

    In Iraq, officials have reduced their salaries, and in Algeria, the government has promised to lift the state of emergency that has been the law since 1992.

    Syrian officials lifted a ban on Facebook and Youtube this week, tools Egyptian protesters used to great effect. Human rights advocates warned that the move could make it easier for the government to monitor its opponents. Still, residents of a Damascus suburb celebrated Mr. Mubarak’s ouster with fireworks on Friday, Reuters reported, a bold stance in a country ruled by emergency law for nearly five decades.

    The only governments in the region that seemed to have embraced the protests without reservation were those led by Islamists. In Lebanon, a Hezbollah statement said, “Hezbollah congratulates the great people of Egypt on this historic and honorable victory which is a direct result of their pioneering revolution.”

    In Gaza, the Palestinian militant group Hamas went further, calling on the new Egyptian leadership to open the borders with Gaza and reconsider its ties with Israel.

    On the streets of Arab cities, the joy was sometimes tempered with tristesse for those still under authoritarian governments.

    “As much as I was happy, I felt sad for Arabs,” said Shawqi al-Qadi, a Yemeni opposition leader. “Why are we ruled by people who are so hated and disgusted by their people? How did that happen to us?”

    And wistfulness.

    “I wish I was an Egyptian today,” said Jammal Amar, 23, a Beirut university student. “What happened makes us confident that we can revolt against injustice and oppression and prevail.”

    Contagious as the enthusiasm was, the obstacles to another Tunisia or another Egypt remain daunting.

    On Friday, those obstacles were perhaps most visible in Algeria, where thousands of police officers in riot gear mobilized in the center of the capital, Algiers. They were preparing to put down an opposition march planned there on Saturday.

    Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 14:32 #
  18. KHAN_Sahib, thanks a lot for the three highly informative articles. I learnt a lot. Nonetheless, I certainly wish to add something to this sentence in the conclusion of the third and last: "Contagious as the enthusiasm was, the obstacles to another Tunisia or another Egypt remain daunting."

    Sure the governments in place are warned and on their guard. But then so are the protesters. I'm certain they will find ways and means to bypass all the obstacles put in their path as they strive towards the immense joy of toppling over their sclerotic regimes.

    Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 14:49 #
  19. My turn now. I stumbled upon an article entitled: Now see the 11 countries at risk of becoming the next Egypt. Now, of course, this is seen wholly through Western eyes and with no thought whatsoever that they, too, might figure among these countries.

    For Pakistan, here is what they write:

    Pakistan: Democracy under threat as state remains unstable

    Investments to watch: Claymore’s BNY Mellon Frontier Markets ETF (FRN)

    Style of government: Democratic republic

    Inflation: Over 15%

    Unemployment: 14% in 2010 (estimate)

    Social media: Heavy use, government has banned use over the depiction of Mohamed before.

    Conclusion: Pakistan has a serious economic crisis, a weakness of state shown in recent flooding, confused positions over the U.S. and Taliban, as well as large anti-government, pro-Muslim fundamentalist forces.

    The potential for change is there. The biggest power source remains the military, however, and another coup, similar to the one that brought Musharaf to power, could occur.

    Read more:

    Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 14:57 #
  20. KHAN_Sahib

    I am surprised that they didn't name the potential events/people who can lead the change... :)

    Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 15:15 #
  21. KHAN_Sahib, the problem with all these people is that they actually know nothing about the countries they write so knowledgeably about. Hence no details, but simply generalisations. For whatever they are worth.

    Posted 4 years ago on 12 Feb 2011 16:10 #
  22. KHAN_Sahib

    Yemen is quite a "Hot Spot" after Egypt followed by Jordan and Syria...

    Posted 4 years ago on 13 Feb 2011 22:46 #

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