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Riaz Pirzada, Sheikh waqas Akram, mansha sindhu & SA Hammed going 2 join PML N

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  1. Here goes the cofirm inside story. story is breaking up after the full angagment of two parties (who are joing and those who accepting them)

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    in 2008 pp-159 and na-129. Due to farooq yousaf ghukhri pppp won na-129 from Lahore with a narrow margin.So mansha sindhu importance is there.Mansha was in PTI as all well known figures leaving PTI his dialouge is also final with PML N.
    PPPP Farooq Yousaf Ghukhri 23177

    PML Ch M Mansha Sindhu 22420
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    .While every one knows the value of Raiz Pirzada a vetern Politian and sheikh waqas Akram a man who can win independently and a good speaker also from the youth age.
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    SA Hammed is from Gujrawala another PTI leaver after BInder Family.
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    These are confrim inside stories which will break soon during jalsa's or in Press conferences.

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 6:45 #
  2. tigers

    Great to know :)

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 6:59 #
  3. Lahoree

    Allah Khair Karay....Aajkal tu PMLN ko Itnee Khushina Mill rahee hain....Dar lagnay laga hay.....Ke kaheen PTI jaisa Bubble tu naheen bun raha..!

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 7:52 #
  4. do not forget my prediction of "Asghar Khan"
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    the result of 2013 election will prove pasha gave birth to 21th century asghar khan with a new make up.
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    PML N wants simply simple majority so none able to black mail them as anp pml q specially MQM always black mail pppp to due not having simple majority if pppp had simple majority then the Great Husband of Farmidha mirza, Zuliqar mirza may have damaged a lot to mqm.So, for good politics you need simple majority.

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 11:03 #
  5. faari249

    Would they announce their joining before election announcement?
    Any news about Mushahid Hussain? Will he stay in PML?

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 11:08 #
  6. Lahoree

    Muazzam Bhai...Apnee Predictions ke Iktitam pay Hamesha..Inshallah Likha karaain....Barkat rahai gee.!!

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 11:12 #
  7. thanks Lahoree.Only sheikh waqas is looking for proper time. otherwise other three are ready to announce insha'Allah in a jalsa and press conference within 2 weeks.

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    it will be raining of falling wickets Insha'Allah.

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 11:27 #
  8. chaudary801

    Inn Sha Allah Muazzam Bhai jo keh rahe hain sach ho ...
    My perdictaion : PMLN will Inn Sha Allah Win Atleast 110 NA seats out 148 genrals Seats In Punjab ......

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 11:43 #
  9. LHR

    @chaudary bhai

    what if the 0 in your figure goes missing....and is taken by PTI instead?

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 11:45 #
  10. chaudary801

    Ya I fear ..... But only in Online Polls ....

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 11:51 #
  11. tigers

    Agreed with @Chaudary801 bhai

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 12:00 #
  12. LHR

    @tigers...but chaudary bhai is biased. he doesnt like IK who is the PM-in-waiting

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 12:07 #
  13. chaudary801

    hahahahahaahah LHR bHAI ..... nai yaar I love this IK .. after all he is Gr8 leador ...

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 12:34 #
  14. LHR

    @chaudary

    Thanks for your comments....I thought now I was the only supporter left 'even on' the internet alongwith @Adonis...but reassuring to know that you are with us.

    I am now glad that PTI will get 3 votes in next general elections.

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 12:39 #
  15. Universal007

    Riaz pirzada joined pmln today in a meeting with MNS.

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 13:29 #
  16. bsobaid

    Muazzam again brought inside story..saara kamal Chotay shareef ko chummi daynay kaa hai.

    So really the tsunami sort of stopped after Pasha and the air is now in favor of noon.

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 14:24 #
  17. syed786

    Riaz Pirzada officially joins PML N...

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=506637729364656&set=a.194294713932294.53948.155446541150445&type=1&theater

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 14:45 #
  18. lahoria84

    No matter what his political affiliation Riaz Pirzada is a good politician and he will an asset for PMLN

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 17:56 #
  19. Adonis

    If the electables are joining PML-N instead of PTI, it is their loss. Tsunami does not need electables. Even an electric pole will win on PTI ticket once elections are held online.

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 18:03 #
  20. Brother.

    PTI is not playing his cards smartly. Imran is in fix and confused about his politics.
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    while pppp is very worried of imran going down. They consider imran as a weapon to save them from PML N.
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    today sources met with Jhanger bader and Jhanger bader said "Yar imran itni jaldi farig ho raha ha apna nuqsan kam hamara bhat nuqsan kar raha ha hum north punjab ma imran pa central pe PML Q pe and south ma Sariki nara pe dependent ha"
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    he said now President is planning to give a new coshen to khan so in people eyes khan credibility remains a bit and we able to dent pml n through khan in north Punjab.

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 19:51 #
  21. chaudary801

    lahoria84 Bhai...
    where U have been dear ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 20 Sep 2012 21:11 #
  22. Gujjar Talwar

    "Yar imran itni jaldi farig ho raha ha apna nuqsan kam hamara bhat nuqsan kar raha ha"

    Badar is wrong. Jab tak Hashmi PTI mein ha, Imran ko koe fikar naheen karni chaheye. Woh sab kuch dabo kar nikly ga.

    Posted 1 year ago on 21 Sep 2012 3:10 #
  23. lahoria84

    If PTI is able to hold its party elections in a clean manner none of these departures are going to mean much. People are looking for a reason to vote for PTI and if they are able to field clean and new faces on most seats there will be some shocking results.

    @ Chaudhary

    I don't enjoy personal attacks so I stay away from this site but will be regular participant once the elections are near. I do read some elections related posts from time to time.

    Posted 1 year ago on 21 Sep 2012 3:53 #
  24. Lahoree

    @Lahoria84
    On the Elections day, People will vote whomesoever but at least avoids it go waste altogether. If PTI didn't solves thier internal problems soon and that includes stop the tide of defections, no one bets upon it however sympathise, as no one want to be associated with a sinking ship.

    In traditional electoral politics, every aspect is important i.e. Leadership Chrisma, Strong electables, Party vote bank, , Baradrism, Influentials supports, Cast......, media.....it will be foolish to ignore else and focus only on one strong point.

    The wave of change which you are talking about so passionately is completely dye down now, the peak point of it was January this year.....had Govt topples at that time....it would be considered only bcz of PTI....but unfortunately....NS turns out too mature and IK did horrible mistakes of its own out of sheer arrogance and now....everything going towards its natural shape and fold which suits traditional politics & politicians.....regrets but PTI time is over!!

    Posted 1 year ago on 21 Sep 2012 4:40 #
  25. here goes one more news. earlier PTi claimed to Have more than 1 chore members.but now when it is put in the computer 40+ lack duplicate members were there. I am also the member of PTI as my whole is too. Now khan has Delayed the party election and ordered to register more members.Khan said election is only possible in party when there will be 1 chore member.
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    one more thing if there will be one chore member i say hardly few lack will vote.

    Posted 1 year ago on 21 Sep 2012 5:23 #
  26. here goes the link for sheikh waqas akram........
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    http://e.dunya.com.pk/detail.php?date=2012-09-21&edition=LHR&id=9266_17540267

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    next week a number of people will also join PML Q.

    Posted 1 year ago on 21 Sep 2012 6:01 #
  27. ssmpk

    @lahoria84

    "If PTI is able to hold its party elections in a clean manner none of these departures are going to mean much. People are looking for a reason to vote for PTI and if they are able to field clean and new faces on most seats there will be some shocking results."

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    The issue is not IK's using big names versus unknown loyalists surfacing through inta-party elections. The issue is IK's inconsistencies and non-stop U-turns. Initially, he played intelligently with media, internet/social-media, and Jalsa engineering, but could not keep pace. Now the Tsumani is receding fast and he just can't stop it. It is only natural... and shouldn't surprise anyone.

    He had drawn lot of public attention. If he had not played in the hands of Pasha, and not launched fierce attacks only on PMLN, would have gained grounds by now. Did you watch on TV how party's Vice President (Shireen Mazari) was attacking IK lately for not showing up in flood affected areas.

    Posted 1 year ago on 21 Sep 2012 20:06 #
  28. lahoria84

    Imran Khan is the only leader who has been on the ground in the past year and he has visited every corner of Pakistan so his effort cannot be questioned. His ability to visit areas where NS and AZ can't even set foot in will definitely play a role in the elections.

    Defections definitely have a negative impact on average follower of PTI but don't forget PTI took a lot of heat for including these people in the first place so if PTI can replace these electables with members chosen by the majority of the party, PTI will benefit in the long run.

    In order for PTI to win the elections they have to energize their base which is youth and first time voters and these groups will be much easier to deal with if PTI has a majority of new faces with clean record.

    Like I said before party elections are key to PTI's performance in general elections and if they are able to deliver clean and new faces PTI will be hard to beat.

    Posted 1 year ago on 21 Sep 2012 21:44 #
  29. Gujjar Talwar

    "if they are able to deliver clean and new faces PTI will be hard to beat"

    Wow, great optimism! If PTI had any substance, politicians won't be leaving in droves. Nobody should object to a flowery eulogy, though.

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Sep 2012 3:08 #
  30. lahoria84

    Well I have to pin my hopes on PTI cuz I'm not dumb enough to vote for PMLN again. PTI might be a failure but we already know PMLN is a failure. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Sep 2012 8:41 #
  31. lionh3art

    did any body from sindh will join pml-n in near days? give their names.

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Sep 2012 18:51 #
  32. ssmpk

    @lahoria84

    Lot of wishful thinking my boy. Keep dreaming....at least it doesn't hurt anyone.

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Sep 2012 19:03 #
  33. Pakistani Expat

    PTI stands for Pasha Tehrik and is dying its natural death after the departure of Pasha, the tout of runaway dictator Musharraf.

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Sep 2012 19:09 #
  34. lahoria84

    @Pakistani Expat

    A little jealous aren't you? don't worry soon NS will find another general Gillani to help him come to power, that is if he doesn't run away to his masters again.

    @ssmpk

    Wish I could say the same about PMLN's government in Punjab

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Sep 2012 19:26 #
  35. ahsan379

    serwer khan from pindi,,,,,ch ishfaq from t t singh,,,,left pti soon

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Sep 2012 19:58 #
  36. Universal007

  37. Pakistani Expat

    @ Lahoria84 and all those Pashas:
    Were you there when NS was with General Gillani? I am pretty sure you were not and nor was I there. But my question to you and to all those PPP and its B-Team PTI is: "Why was NS govt as well as the assemblies were dissolved in 1988?" The simple answer is that people like Nawaz Sharif and MK Junejo had started challenging the military might. The PML govt signed Geneva Accord to pave way for Soviet pullout and the military might did not like it.
    Please don't forget that during his tenure, only Nawaz Sharif could bridle the mighty generals like Aslam Baig, Hameed Gul, Asif Nawaz Janjua and Jehangir Karamat.
    * It was Nawaz Sharif who could dare retire General Jehangir Karamat as Army Chief. Btw, General Karamat is now doing a job of US think tank in Washington.
    * It was NS who wanted the rogue generals to pull out from Kargill where Pakistan had lost over 4,000 lives for no reason. In July 1999, NS announced to establish a military commission to probe the wrongdoers. Was it acceptable to traitor Musharraf?
    * NS is the only politician who has been bitterly opposed by bhagorra/runaway dictator Musharraf. Don't forget Mush and his then ISI Chief Ehtesham Zamir had crafted PML-Q and MMA. Mush is the Traitor by signing NRO deal with PPP & MQM.
    * The credit goes to PML-N and its then Chairman PAC Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan to expose the massive corruption in NLC by not less than 3 Generals.
    * PML-N has time & again publically announced that Defence Budget should also be thoroughly debated in the National Assembly since it is public money.
    * Nawaz Sharif gave brave leadership to the country by leading the Long March of 15th March 2009 for restoration of judiciary. IK was in hiding to save his skin. When the rally had hardly crossed 100 miles, judiciary was restored at 3 am by then PM Gillani.
    * Let us not forget that on 9th March 2007, when the CJ Iftikhar Chaudhry was being dismissed by dictator General Musharraf, the then DG ISI General Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani was sitting beside him. The same General Kiyani who was made successor by Mush.
    * General Kiyani is the Guarantor of notorious NRO Deal of 5th October 2007 and his subordinate General Pasha was protector of NRO.
    * Bhagorra Mush was planning to come back to Pakistan in mid-2010 since 2year ban for Govt Employee's in politics was ending and the British Govt had regretted to provide him security any further. But Mush knows he is wanted in Bugti murder case, Benazir Bhutto murder case, Lal Masjid massacre etc. But he could not dare come back and his loyalists were disillusioned.
    * General Pasha, being the loyal former subordinate of Mush, gathered Mush's stalwarts under the banner of his newly invigorated PTI (Pasha Tehrik Infaaq) so that they remain united as a junta.
    * Pasha taught his protege' Imran Khan Niazi (nephew of General Ameer Abdullah Khan Niazi of East Pakistan surrender) to go soft on PPP and never criticise MQM, the party that had supported Mush(+Kiyani+Pasha) during the carnage of 12th May 2007. IK Niazi has taken a completely U-turn on MQM.
    * The sole objective of Pasha Tehrik Infaaq (PTI) is to break away the right votebank and let PPP come to power once again. This dirty dream will never come true InshaaAllah!
    * The recent drama of Riaz Thekedar also revealed that he had bribed many generals, media persons (Mubashir Lucman, Hasan Nisar), lawyers (Hamid Khan Niazi) and even sponsored PTI's jalsa in Rawalpindi. Riaz Thekedar had sworn that he will use his entire wealth to defeat Chaudhry Nisar since Ch Nisar was supporting the windows & orphans whose land had been grabbed by Riaz Thekedar.
    * After the retirement of General Pasha the Pasha Tehrik Infaaq is dying it's natural death!!!

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Sep 2012 11:36 #
  38. lahoria84

    "The simple answer is that people like Nawaz Sharif and MK Junejo had started challenging the military might."

    I am sorry I stopped reading your response after this beauty, if you honestly believe the above statement where you put Junejo and NS in the same category then all I can say is ignorance is bliss my friend.

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Sep 2012 17:39 #
  39. hypocrite

    I agree that one cannot put Nawaz Sharif sahib in the same category as Late Junejo sahib.

    Late Junejo sahib was a man of integrity, principles and character. Rare qualities in a politician in Pakistan.

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Sep 2012 17:43 #
  40. lahoria84

    NS sided with Zia when Junejo resisted military rule which resulted in Zia famously saying "NS ka kila bohat muzboot hai, is ko meri umar bhi lag jayay" NS was actively working to weaken Juenjo when he was standing up for his rights. These nooners have no shame but here is what Wikipedia has to be say about the rise to power of this legendary leader.

    "In May 1980 Ghulam Jilani Khan, the recently-appointed Governor of the Punjab Province and a former Director-General of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), initiated a search for new urban leaders, and Sharif was one of the men he found and promoted, quickly making him Finance Minister of the Punjab. In 1981, Sharif joined the Punjab Advisory Board under General Zia-ul-Haq and principally rose to public and political prominence as a staunch proponent of the military government of General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq during the 1980s"

    "He maintained close relations with the Zia-ul-Haq, who soon agreed to return to him his private steel mill which was had been lost during the wave of nationalization by Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.Sharif maintained an alliance with General Rahimuddin Khan, who was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee. During his political career, Sharif also had close ties with the Director-General of ISI, Lieutenant-General (retired) Hamid Gul, who played a substantial role in the formation of the Islami Jamhoori Ittehad"

    "In 1985, General Zia dismissed the government of hand-picked Prime minister Muhammad Khan Junejo, and called for new elections. However, with all the provisional and the national assemblies were dissolved, General Zia-ul-Haq retained Sharif as the Chief Minister of Punjab Province, and continued Sharif's support until his death and the elections were held in 1988"

    Had enough or do you want me to keep going, next time try not to change history, its okay to give your vote to NS but always remember "jan Allah to hi deni hai" NS ko nahin.

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Sep 2012 19:30 #
  41. lahoria84

    I dare you or any other nooner to deny what I wrote, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones on others....

    Posted 1 year ago on 24 Sep 2012 20:37 #
  42. Adonis

    Nawaz Sharif, or for that matter all other Prime Minister in last 50 years, look like dwarfs when compared with Muhammad Khan Junejo in terms of honesty and integrity.

    Junejo was one of the best leaders Pakistan had and Pakistan would have been in a much better place today had he been allowed to continue in office.

    It is another matter that a nation with fickle opinion that we are, during his rule Junejo was ridiculed as being too simple and straight forward.

    As for evolving under military tutelage, most of our 'leaders' including Bhutto, Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan come in this category which is not surprising given our long histoory of military rule. But what is more important is how one acts once in power and whether one accepts military's hegemony or tries to make it subservient to civilian leadership.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 7:10 #
  43. Sharif Aadmi

    Adnois

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    Nawaz Sharif, or for that matter all other Prime Minister in last 50 years, look like dwarfs when compared with Muhammad Khan Junejo in terms of honesty and integrity.
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    Totally Agreed.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 7:31 #
  44. ZSD

    1985 election were non party based. Who picked mr jonejo for premiership out of around 200 MNAs ? What was the critetia ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 8:26 #
  45. Sharif Aadmi

    ZSD

    Same forces which picked bhutto in 70 or BB in 88 or NS in 82/83 and kept on feeding on baby milk:)

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 8:30 #
  46. ZSD

    so was he not pick of a general ? From where comes in the integrity and principles then ? ;-)

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 8:46 #
  47. Sharif Aadmi

    ZSD

    Wahts was the constituion then ?

    But if u want to know about his integarity , then read KM Arif's book . The way he fought with generals for lifting of Martial law & emergency is enough to establish his principles and crediblity.

    Also , even after 19 years of his death and 24 years after his sacking , no financial allegation has been levelled.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 8:53 #
  48. Adonis

    Muhammad Khan Junejo was Pir Pagara's nomineee as PM accepted by Zia ul Haq. Fully knowing that the srvival of assembly depended on Zia ul Haq, still Junejo immediately showed his democratic credentials when in his first speech after winning elections in NA as PM, he demanded an immediate lifting of Martial Law.

    In numerous instances, he annoyed Zia ul Haq and went totally against his wishes which ultimately led to dismissal of his government within 3 years. Geneva accord, allowing Benazir to return, consensus building among all political parties on Afghanistan issue, sacking of ministers for corruption allegations, austerity drive and putting generals on suzukis, Ojhri camp report, all were steps that inflamed the military.

    He could have been a loyal servant to Zia (as Jamali/Shujaat/Shaukat Aziz were to Musharraf) and carry on as PM for 5 years without any challenge. But he never compromised on principles and as a result sacrificed his government.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 8:58 #
  49. sam45

    All democratic forces, including PPP should join hands against elites and establishment backed parties like PTI and Imran khan. Enough is enough we can't let this go on for ever!! People like Imran khan have fooled as long enough! there is always a new way and trick by the establishment to keep the status quo and derail a working system, which needs time to mature, this time they are using Imran and he is more then happy to do anything for them just for personal glory!.
    It is the so called educated people like Imran khan who have ruined pakistan for the last 65 years!

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 11:00 #
  50. Gjanj

    Kh.joining ppp is that true

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 11:10 #
  51. chaudary801

    Lahoria84 Bhai....
    Bro u r consistantlly talking abt the perriod in which Miyan sahb was in Establishment's lap... But I guess forgot the later episode .... following r the some important episodes ...
    1...Miyan sahb clashes with Chief of army Gen aslm baig
    2.....his clashes with gen Asif Nawaz Bulk Asif nawaz k Qatal ka ilzaam bhi Nawaz pe laga..
    3.. his clashes with Wahed Kkaer.. Waheed Kaker eventually take rsign frm NS
    4... His clashes With Gen Jahangir karamat .... in which NS become the frist PM in the history of pakisatn who took resign frm Chief of army...
    5... his clsahes with Musharaf (the first poilitical dad of Musharf)
    6.. His clashes with Kiyni is on record as NS again become the first opposition leador who demanded Inquiry against army chief on Abot Abad issue .... while Wikileakes also wrote that Kiyani dont like Nawaz becoz of his stance against Establishment'''
    7.. His clashes with Pasha (Marhoom the 2nd political dad Of Musharf) agaain nawaz demanded inquiry against Pasha on abotabada issue nd nO other so called leador dare to say a word agaisnt Pasha ...
    Now i challange u to Deny these facts ....
    Now plz i have Serius Question agansit son of Pasha nd Musharf ...
    1...IK supported Musharf .yes nawaz also supported zia but when nawa enters in politics zia was already in power but on the other hand IK supported Mushraf when Ik was lready in politics .... he didnt leave Mushraf... it was Musharf who Kicked his **** when IK demanded PM ship on the basis of Just one seat ....lolz..
    2... IK nevor spoke against Kiyni who negitiated with BB on NRO
    3.. IK nevor said a word agisnt his parents(Kiyani nd Pasha) on Aboatabad isssue or on raymond davis issue or on Drone issue as we all know that Army allowing Drone bulk Drone hamlay Army ki dawat pe he hotay hain....
    4... IK nevor participated in Long march for judges becoz Establishment ne judges ko maazoool kiya tah Nd IK didnt want say a word against them ...
    5... Ik didnt challange NRO in Court or did he ??? while PMLN challanges NRO in court ....
    Now I chlalange whole PTi ti answer these question or Deny these facts plz ......

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 11:25 #
  52. sam45

    @ sharif aadmi

    Financial gains are not the only! thing man lust for!!

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 12:30 #
  53. Sharif Aadmi

    sam45

    So what junejo gained ? He lifted martial law , restored fundamental rights after 20 yrs , lifted emergency , what else u could expect ?

    Ch.
    plz correct your history

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    4... His clashes With Gen Jahangir karamat .... in which NS become the frist PM in the history of pakisatn who took resign frm Chief of army...
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    In 1972, Bhutto forced Gul Hassan then CnC to resign .

    Regarding Aslam Beg's clash , wasn't same Aslam beg who formed IJI ? and then distributed money among anti-ppp poliiticans including NS throught mehran gate scandal ?

    Regarding , mush NS stand, wasn't mush given dual charge of JCSC just cuople of weeks prior to Oct 12 99 .

    What u r speaking off mate ?

    Regarding your questions about IK / PTi , these will remain unaswered as admin has killed the whole breed :)

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 16:55 #
  54. lahoria84

    @ Chaudhary

    Clashing with generals for your own personal gain is useless for Paksitan. His clash with Aslam Baig was the only one where he actually helped Pakistan by not siding with Iraq during first gulf war.

    Gen Jahangir karamat deserves as much credit as NS for resigning because if he had wanted to he could have created another deadlock which would probably have resulted in both of them going home.

    As for Musharraf we all know the story of how he was promoted ahead of much more deserving candidates in order for NS to keep a firm hold on his power. Even a two thirds majority wasn't enough for NS and he was still insecure. We all know the cowardly act by NS to dismiss Musharraf while he was on a foreign tour. Why didn't NS call for early elections and go back to the people instead of trying to hold on to his power.

    If criticizing Kiyani is the criteria in your eyes then you should read up on what IK has said about him. As for Pasha where was the demand for his dismissal.

    Gotta go now but will be back with my reply on allegations against IK.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 18:15 #
  55. lahoria84

    @ Sahrif Admi

    IJI was created by Hameed Gul not Aslam Baig.

    Posted 1 year ago on 25 Sep 2012 18:27 #
  56. Sharif Aadmi

    lahoria jee

    Hameed gul was ISI chief and Aslam Beg was COAS at the time of formation of IJI.

    Posted 1 year ago on 26 Sep 2012 0:59 #

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