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Ruswai aur zillat kee lazawal tareekh

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  1. bsobaid
    Member

    Lost 71 war, hung elected prime minister.
    Lost kargil war, removed elected prime minister
    Humiliated by abbotabad operation, conspired against another democratic government.

    It appears to me the khaoo peoo bobby dhamal party takes revenge of its humiliation by outside forces by conquering its own nation.

    Just like a drunk and broke gambler who is humiliated and beaten by everyone in the world but becomes a chengaiz khan when he enters the home. The kids go in the hiding and the wifw who makes her warm roti gets a good beating.

    Posted 4 months ago on 31 Dec 2011 14:46 #
  2. zingaro
    Member

    @bsobaid .. usi lost kargil hero ko aap ki favorite government guard of honor and your Gilani says it is not "Doable" to take action against him. It was your party who signed an NRO with him and it was our N-league who can not dare to file a petition against him even for BB murder case in Rawalpindi. For a moment I agree that Article 6 can be invoked by parliament but Rawalpindi falls in Punjab where an FIR and prosecution could have done by N-league.

    My dear these are our political parties who have always supported this bobby party. Look at their public gatherings. Who comes there? Do people come from India or Israel? First correct the nation and then complain against Army.

    Posted 4 months ago on 31 Dec 2011 14:56 #
  3. zingaro@
    Guard of honor was given by armed forces to their ex chief. At least, present government forced him to leave presidency and end his 9 year dictatorship.

    NRO was not ideal agreement, but at least NRO open door for all political parties and leadership to come back and participate in 2008 election.

    In result of that election, judiciary was free from house arrest and later restored. NRO resulted 2008 elections and 2008 election resulted departure of Musharaf.

    However there are two negative things from that 2008 election. First, death of Benazir and second, selection of Zardari as president.

    Posted 4 months ago on 31 Dec 2011 15:12 #
  4. zaln
    Member

    ایسا دنیا کے شاید کسی ملک میں ہی ہوتا ہو کہ ایک طرف دہشتگرد اس ملک کے فوجیوں کو مار رہے ہوں اور اسی فوج سے تعلق رکھنے والے ان دہشتگردوں کی حمایت کرتے ہوں اور ان کو چلاتے ہوں ،فوج کے اندر بغاوت اور غداری اور اپس کی لڑائیوں میں ہزاروں مارے جا چکے ہیں اور کسی فوجی کو سزا نہیں ہوئی

    Posted 4 months ago on 31 Dec 2011 15:17 #
  5. bsobaid
    Member

    Khaoo peoo party

    Posted 4 months ago on 31 Dec 2011 16:17 #
  6. bsobaid
    Member

    Treason charges should be laid against those who were supporting and aiding zaliman while army as an institution was at war with them.

    Laikin kaoo peoo party ko housing socities chalanay aur shadi hall chalanay se fursat milay tou billions kay fighter jets bachaein.

    Posted 4 months ago on 31 Dec 2011 16:21 #
  7. bsobaid
    Member

    @zinga,

    I empathize with political parties.
    Establishment kay ganday aur khoonkhowaar arms are all too mighty for them to bring them in court of law.

    The examples you gave only strengthen the case against bobby gang.

    Posted 4 months ago on 31 Dec 2011 16:24 #
  8. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    BsObaid.

    Would differ with this sentence

    '
    Lost 71 war, hung elected prime minister.
    '

    Bhutto was never elected. He lost the election by securing 82 seats in the house of 300. So , he was never elected.

    Rest i totally agree.

    Posted 4 months ago on 31 Dec 2011 16:32 #
  9. Sharif Aadmi
    Member

    Zingaroo Bahi,

    As very right pointed out earlier, the guard of honous was given by BAHDUR FAUJ to its ex Chief , the same which was given to Yahya when he died or to all generals who were part of 71 debacle .

    Posted 4 months ago on 31 Dec 2011 16:34 #
  10. @Sharif Aadmi

    No matter how bad deeds genrals have done; at least these generals are faithful to each other and respect each other even after death. Don't you remember the grand funeral of Gen Zia.

    Posted 4 months ago on 01 Jan 2012 17:32 #
  11. Uptill Nawaz Sharif I had thought that democracy in Pakistan was progressive because

    1) PM Liaqat Ali Khan was shot
    2) PM ZAB was hung
    3) PM Nawaz Sharif was extradited

    That was quite some improvement.

    Then came Dec. 27, 2007 and the process of democracy as viewed by way of the plight of a PM went down the drain.

    Posted 4 months ago on 01 Jan 2012 18:11 #
  12. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    In Pakistan, the problem is "persistence" of the "some of the" "common man" who "want" to continue with non-Islamic system(s). These systems fail repeatedly causing us "harsher" problems each time.

    There is no justice system, in that traitors are never put to death, fraudsters, criminals have no reprisals to fear. No code of conduct is established among the collective that must be adhered to.

    The economic system is such that it allows for money to be "taken out" of "circulation" from local economy without any reprisals.

    The economic system allows for "de-valuation" of the currency which has been "consistently" decreasing the buying power of the common man.

    The social system is geared to "accepting" as well as "allowing" for those decisions, actions to be taken which are "designed" to dis-satisfy basic needs of human beings.

    The political system of "fraud" "as a way of life", is enabling all this non-sense to go on endlessly by encouraging crimes to be repeated over and over again, no matter how grave they may be.

    To top it off, the common man has been "accepting" as well as "allowing";

    (1) all this to go on endlessly, decade after decade since 1960s
    (2) "fraud" "as a way of life" decade after decade

    Posted 4 months ago on 01 Jan 2012 18:48 #
  13. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    The problem, as always, is;

    (1) not struggling to adhere to DEEN-ALLAH
    (2) not struggling to adhere to Quran
    (3) not struggling to adhere to Hadees
    (4) not struggling to adhere to example set by Muhammad (SAW)
    (5) not struggling to adhere to example set by Companions (RA, RAA) of Muhammad (SAW)

    Posted 4 months ago on 01 Jan 2012 19:00 #

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