zia m
Member
Congratulations to Sayeeda Warsi!
For anybody to serve in government is a privilege," said the 39-year-old of Pakistani origin, after Cameron held his first Cabinet meeting in 10 Downing Street, two days after being appointed premier by Queen Elizabeth II.
"But to be born the daughter of an immigrant mill-worker in a mill town in Yorkshire, to have the privilege of serving in Cabinet at such an important time in Britain's history I think is terribly humbling," she told the BBC.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
(1) What do you expect for;
(a) yourself, or
(b) Pakistan, or
(c) people of Pakistan, or
(d) Muslims/citizens (in general) of ALL! of Muslim UMMAH
from this woman ?
(2) In UK, do you expect this woman to represent our! collective! or one individual group (political or other parties of Pakistan) or some individual interests ?
zia m
Member
I'm proud of her Pakistani origin.
Hope she can contribute positively in improving relations between two countries.
I guess Indians already have too much influence in Britain.
Why are you so upset?
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
(1) Upset ? Because;
(a) Our present condition
(b) The way our people conduct themselves
(c) Repercussions of our people's decisions
(d) Repercussions of our people's actions
make me worry about the people in our! collective.
(2) Being proud is irrelevant, untill we see output from this woman for our! people, our! collective
I have nothing to be proud of, untill I/we see her helping in affairs of Muslims inside and outside UK, with the powers she has been given by the people.
zia m
Member
She has nothing to do with our present condition and is conducting herself very nicely.
It is good to use common sense once in a while.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
You don't understand;
(1) I'm not blaming her for our present condition
(2) I'm expecting from her to do what she can to improve on our current predicament
Does that make sense ?
@zia m
Oh I loved that other quote of Baroness Warsi -- about her being middle-class. "Baroness" and "Middle-class"? But I am sure you don't see the ridiculousness of that...
Tory peer Warsi launches bizarre attack on Muslim MPs
Baroness Warsi declares that Muslims who go to parliament “don’t have any morals or principles”.
YES! A TRUE HYPOCRITE right up your alley...so feel proud, you are aptly represented in the British Parliament now ;-)
(But then again maybe not -- On second thought, maybe it was just an admission by her that she does not "have any morals or principles." See next story:)
Warsi, The 'Husband-Thief'
"...Baroness Sayeeda Warsi, the Shadow Community Cohesion Minister, was accused of ‘stealing’ the husband of a vulnerable Pakistani whose grasp of English is so poor that she did not realise she was being divorced...."
Still fell proud of her? :-P
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@zia m: I will feel proud of Ms. Warsi when I see her working for;
(1) Muslims of UK
(2) Muslims of Pakistan
(3) Muslims of this entire world
in her capacity, but NOT! before.
toamin
member
@title of thread-
lolzz.. a nice joke :)
khanseena1
Member
@zia m
She has nothing to do with our present condition and is conducting herself very nicely.
It is good to use common sense once in a while.
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Unfortunately common sense is not so common...
PPl here are upset cause they want women to know their place in society.
yahya
Member
@zia: It is quiet shameful that a minority has been made chairperson whose religion is different from the vast majority and an insult to the feelings of the majority. Minorities should be kept at their proper place and should not be allowed to play with feelings of the majority. How is she expected to understand the feelings of the majority when her religion and beliefs are different from majority?
Shame on secular system.
/*sarcasm
khanseena1
Member
@Haris
I will feel proud of Ms. Warsi when I see her working for;
(1) Muslims of UK
(2) Muslims of Pakistan
(3) Muslims of this entire world
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http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/03-pakistanis-want-british-mp-to-remove-terror-stigma-ss-05
From dawn article today:
"Warsi's appointment has come as a national morale booster."
Warsi runs five vocational training centres for orphaned girls in villages near Gujjar Khan through a women's charity.
“We feel proud that she is from us,” said Hina Shaukat, a student in a vocational training centre in Bewal village near Gujjar Khan. Eight girls sat around her, busily sewing.
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achtung
Member
no need to be jealous from warsi.
she worked hard to earn this position.
we must learn to work hard also to make our country better.
A respectable entry of Sayeeda Warsi into British political Erena, is something to appreciate without putting IFS and BUTS.
Any individual contributing positive for humanity, even within a particular limited social structure, should be commended.
@JS
"A respectable entry of Sayeeda Warsi into British political Erena, is something to appreciate without putting IFS and BUTS.
Any individual contributing positive for humanity, even within a particular limited social structure, should be commended."
Laughig my freaking head off. You guys are a hoot! Having an affair (and stealing away) someone's husband sure is "respectable"! Stating "Muslims who go to parliament “don’t have any morals or principles”" and then going to parliament is height of hypocrisy (or admission she has no "morals or principles".
No IFS and BUTTS about it.
(And thanks for letting us know which way the needle of you morals points ;-) )
SufiSoul
Member
I think that campaign against MUSLIMS NORMS i-e Hijab etc will be tried to Back Up by people like Saeeda..
When our own Muslims will lead the WAR AGAINST HIJAB,MASJIDS in UK there will be little effect if other Muslims will Protest..
I think that bringing Saeeda will be much beneficial to the PArties/Politicians thinking to start a movement against muslims norms..
Saeeda will be used AS,TO KILL THE MUSLIMS THROUGH MUSLIMS IN UK..
Killing here doesnot mean KILLING..
Saeeda was the need of the DAY in UK to Tackle Muslims protesters Against Hijab,Namaz,Masajids,in comming Future.....
KHUDA UK K MUSALMANON KI HIFAZAT KARY.
@achtung
"no need to be jealous from warsi."
Oh I knew that "jealousy" bit was coming. I was just wondering who would be the first to blurt it. So congrats! :-P
"she worked hard to earn this position."
I bet she did! ;-)
zia m
Member
@zia m
Oh I loved that other quote of Baroness Warsi -- about her being middle-class. "Baroness" and "Middle-class"? But I am sure you don't see the ridiculousness of that...
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She is the daughter of a mill worker and seems to be very humble.Titles are meaningless......
Allama Iqbal given the title of "Sir" by the Queen does not lower his image in my eyes.
Tariq Ali belonging to feudal family is still the best friend of the poor .... there is nothing ridiculous about him.
Being pelted by some fanatics should not lower her image, rather it shows the intolerance of the fundos...
""Tory peer Warsi launches bizarre attack on Muslim MPs
Baroness Warsi declares that Muslims who go to parliament “don’t have any morals or principles”.
YES! A TRUE HYPOCRITE right up your alley...so feel proud, you are aptly represented in the British Parliament now ;-)""
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She is a conservative, being a liberal i don't have to agree with all her policies but it should not keep me from praising her achievements.
I'm not familiar with her personal life.It should not be my business to criticize her without knowing her side of the story.
I'm really disappointed at your fundo mentality :(
SufiSoul
Member
Thank You and You proved my Point Of View within real time..
SAEEDA WARSI IS ANOTHER STOOGE AGAINST BRITISH MUSLIMS....
achtung
Member
all sensible people are stooge for fanatics.
zia m
Member
Sufi
Majority of Pakistanis will disagree with you.
I learnt about her from "Hasb-e-Hal" most popular Pakistani TV Show.
If you get a chance, watch it, or is it against your faith???
aftab arif
Member
@ Zia M
What happened to the principle of not supporting Conservatives because of they stance on the Iraq War?
@ ziam, yahya, achtung, JS, khanseena1 and the likes
Why you guys/gals always applaud and promote the munafiqeen of muslims. Why is that traitors of muslims and stooges of kuffars are your favorites.
And you still think you guys should be taken seriousley and given respect for insulting the muslims who are true to the cause of islam.
I never heard or seen good words from you guys for the muslims who have given up everything for the sake of islam and for the betterment of the ummah. And dont tell me you havent seen any as you need to take off the dark glasses of animosity towards muslims.
And yes I very well know how the stooges the likes of life peers from muslims in britain are CHOSEN. I have lived in UK long enough to know that and have seen the british political system from very close to understand it.
FJ
SufiSoul
Member
FJ,
The result is the same "What repo they are enjoying at the forum,as paid Brothers against muslims."
zia m
Member
@ Aftab
You must have missed my comment...
"She is a conservative, being a liberal i don't have to agree with all her policies but it should not keep me from praising her achievements.""
Fundos are all out with their hate mongering and bigotry!
Showing their true colours...Makes me wonder who is our worst enemy Indians or the FUNDOS.
@ziam
paish kar ghafil koi aml agar dafter mein hai
;)
FJ
aftab arif
Member
@ Zia M
Isn't this the same party which you compared to the BJP a few months back and now you are saying that it's some big achievement to get a high position in a party which holds bigoted views.
zia m
Member
@Aftab
I'm NOT praising the Conservative party here.If it is ok for Imran Khan to support a Jew in the Conservative party, why is it so bad to praise a woman of Pakistani origin?
So far she is doing some good for Pakistan, if she starts working against the interest of Pakistan, i will be the first to criticize her.
@Aftab said
"@ Zia M
What happened to the principle of not supporting Conservatives because of they stance on the Iraq War?
@ Zia M
Isn't this the same party which you compared to the BJP a few months back and now you are saying that it's some big achievement to get a high position in a party which holds bigoted views
But that would require "morals or principles", wouldn't it (which Ms Warsi lacks by her own admission and hence the appreciation by zia m) :)
BTW: Odd argument calling it "a big achievement" -- appears Ms Warsi has gotten to the "high position" like any house **** -- by painting her face white and echoing her master's sentiments about the darkies and her religion and cheating and god knows what else. (She has successfully sold herself as the 'Baboo' and hence the appreciation so no surprise there)
zia m
Member
@Aftab
I have also praised the efforts of Col Imam in the past.
It does not mean i support the TTP.
@zia m
"So far she is doing some good for Pakistan, if she starts working against the interest of Pakistan, i will be the first to criticize her. "
When was the last time you criticized Haqqani? He too is a "muslim" who has "achieved" a high position and is "working for the interest of Pakistan" as proven by his latest offering:
“The problem began with the very existence of Pakistan as the country came into being in the name of Islam and the evil of jihad could not be controlled for this reason.”
aftab arif
Member
@ Zia M
I personally don't have an issue with her being in the conservative party and doing well for herself with in the party. You were not happy on the role Imran Khan was playing whilst supporting Zak, so why the difference between the two? They are both members of the Conservative's, so why pick and choose one over they other?
@aftab
"They are both members of the Conservative's, so why pick and choose one over they other? "
Oh simple -- 'Cause that's what hypocrites do!
zia m
Member
@Aftab
I was against Zak because of his support for Israel.There is big difference between him and her.
Nota
You don't seem to know my views. I have always criticised Haqqani and Zardari.Please refrain from making assumptions.
khanseena1
Member
As far as her alleged personal life is concerned, I am no one to judge other people. I am not judging and condemning Imran Khan for his past life.
Why is it hard to appreciate hard working pakistani origin muslims achieving in the west?
Learn to respect others...that is common decency
aftab arif
Member
@ Zia M
Thnx for clearing that up.
zia m
Member
@Aftab
You are most welcome!
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
@khanseena1: Can you please give it a rest, please! ?!
I know place of women in Muslim society. I follow Muhammad (SAW) and his! (SAW) Companions (RA, RAA).
SufiSoul
Member
Saeeda will lead Anti Islamic SLOGANS....MARK MY WORDS.
"Our troops" the occupiers who had Killed millions and are still killing the innocent muslims Iraq and Afghanistan
BTW I completely disagree with almuhajiroon actions but I am highlighting the SW stance that she is proud of the fact that even her grand father "served" for the Empire.
FJ
@SufiSoul
"Saeeda will lead Anti Islamic SLOGANS....MARK MY WORDS. "
Will? Did you watch the video zia m posted above? If not, see the last bit where Ms Warsi identifies "Good Muslims" vs "Bad Muslims" ;-)
@Faarigh Jazbati
Thanks for the video. Another example of how you become "a powerful Muslim woman in UK cabinet" ;-)
BTW: Warsi echoes what someone said to me only today :-P
http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/al-faath-operations/page/2#post-148254
"It was a coming home parade. It was an opportunity for the local town to say we appreciate the fact that you have risked your lives for Queen and Country"
:-P :-P
She continues:
"It has left the soldiers feeling quite hurt and their families feeling quite hurt." But not a word about the "hurt" they left behind in Afghanistan....
Amazing! So this is what you support zia m (& Co)??
zia m
Member
Ha ha She took care of the Charles guy from The Telegraph very nicely.
Throwing things at people is wrong!
Is it too hard for the educated members at the Forum to understand.
Nuts is too mild a word for fanatics.
zia m
as usual, you are conveniently avoiding the issue I raised. As for the actions of Almuhajiroon is concerned, I already oppose it.
So what would you say about killing of millions of innocents muslims in iraq and afghanistan by "our troops"
FJ
zia m
Member
She is a British citizen.I'm sure she is opposed to the war.
Unlike Pakistan, most people in other countries support their troops even if they are sent to the battle due to wrong decisions of the leadership.
@zia m
Last night I was in Manhattan at Penn station when I saw some Gora's and Pakistanis waving British and Pakistani flags while doing bhangra. I thought that maybe this is an English celebration of winning the 20/20 cricket world cup. I later found out that the British/ Pakistani boxer Amir Khan just badly beat up a american gora in Madison square garden and the English goras + pakis are celebrating a desi badly beating up an American gora. This is the world we live in.
@zia m
"She is a British citizen.I'm sure she is opposed to the war"
and pope is a jew ;)
naievity has no bound
FJ
fj
Naivety is the correct spelling of the word. In your rush to share you Nazi ideology in the guise of Islamic extremist hate you have overlooked the spelling of a little word but carry on with your anti Semitism and throw in the word Jew when you don’t have any arguments. When the blue pill made by pfizer does not work for you than using the word Jew is the next best option to bring up blood circulation.
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
How is he an 'anti-semite' ?!
How do you substantiate that claim ?!
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