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self introspection

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  1. singh isking
    Member

    guys, everyone here is criticising some personality or other members of forum.i will like to invite every member to introspect ourself why we say, what we say.i will start from my self
    1.i am politically naive . my stand keep on changing with time.
    2. not so religious person. i can make fun of every religion including mine.
    3 i love urdu poetry but i wish punjabi poetry to match standards of urdu poetry.
    4 i love music both classical and semi classical(although not so technically sound)
    5 i beleive humanism is best ism in all isms.
    6 i wish to see indo-pak relation to extent people from each side should understand each other very well.
    7 i love all beautiful women lol

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 5:32 #

  2. singh isking
    Member

    so no one ready to describe him/herself

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 6:42 #

  3. toamin
    member

    i think thousands of my posts during the course of last couple of years are enough to explain about myself...

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 6:48 #

  4. haider3
    member

    SI, be in no hurry. Give people time to get used to the idea of self introspection. I've said what I had to say about myself on your other thread. Perhaps I can add the following: The human qualities I most admire: loyalty, genuine kindness and courage. What I hate: greed, i.e. materialism.

    Salam Sahib, what of us latecomers? We didn't get to read your past posts. A line or two for our sakes? I've just seen what you had to say about Iqbal on the philosophy thread. It was indeed very, very good.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 7:35 #

  5. toamin
    member

    dear mirza ghalib

    thanks, i do express myself openly and let my work talk for itself

    i think apart from difference on understanding of history from 1857-1947 we have many common grounds :)

    i guess some extra history books from US/UK historians 'spoiled' my mind, especial 'blame' goes to ayesha jalal and ian talbot :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 7:50 #

  6. haider3
    member

    Thank you Salam Sahib, That's a stride forward. And much grows clearer now. As for any crowns being in danger, no way. True kings are never dethroned.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 8:01 #

  7. singh isking
    Member

    i also quote religion when it favours me

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 8:01 #

  8. haider3
    member

    singh isking - and when it doesn't?

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 8:03 #

  9. singh isking
    Member

    then i critize it

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 8:08 #

  10. haider3
    member

    Thanks. And I owe you that too, I suppose. Defects: as many as any human being can have, but let me mention three of them here: jaazbati, easily discouraged (except about God Almighty), ignorant as I've said before.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 12:19 #

  11. toamin
    member

    i think self introspection is good, but should be kept as personal and private subject, making it public leads to incorrect result :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 12:25 #

  12. Faarigh Jazbati
    member

    MG

    You calling my name (jazbati) a defect.

    aih changian gallan naeen jay ;)

    FJ

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 12:28 #

  13. haider3
    member

    True enough, Salam Sahib, but since singh isking asked, we could not do otherwise than oblige for this once. As for incorrect results, seems to me practically everything one does in this world, be it here in Pakistan or elsewhere, that's what we end up with: incorrect results. God knows, human beings are as a rule well intentioned and see where it gets them.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 12:32 #

  14. toamin
    member

    actually what i meant to say was that if i start giving my strengths or weaknesses in a public forum then one might perceived it as bragging or boasting, since self-introspection is a personal subject, making it public may give wrong signals-

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 12:38 #

  15. haider3
    member

    Got your point, Salam Sahib. But I do remember something about you. It's just come back to me. You won't mind if I put it down, will you? Nothing about strength or weakness, just a statement of fact. No, I won't put it down. But it concerns your occupation and it was on a thread about teaching young people the right values. Does it ring a bell?

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 12:59 #

  16. achtung
    Member

    singh bhai, mein ney apni self introspection karney ki koshish kee hy, pata nahee kahan tak kamyab ho saka hoo

    mein mazahab ko har kissi ka zaati muamla samajhta hoo
    mein humanism ko sabb sey behtar samajhta hoo
    mein chahta hook eh dunya kay tamam log mil jul kay aman kay saath raheen
    mein har aik kay saath insaaf ka qail hoo
    mein naram tabiat logo ko pasand karta hoo
    mein ikhtalaf-e-rae zaati iktilaf nahee samajhta
    mein keena parwari ko bura samajhta hoo
    mein kabhi kabhi jhoot bol laita hoo
    mein doosroon mein burraian dhoondnay ki koshish nahee karta
    mein koshish karta hoo keh apni buraioon ko kam sey kam karoo
    mein iss baat par ziada tawajah deta hoo keh kiya kaha ja raha hy, bajaee iss kay keh kon keh raha hy.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 17:39 #

  17. haider3
    member

    Well done, achtung. Exactly what was needed here. Some of what you wrote above I can even confirm in my dealings with you, short though these have been. Carry on with your beliefs. It's the only thing anyone has to sustain them through life and its daily grind.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 17:46 #

  18. achtung
    Member

    zarra nawazi hy aapki mirza ghalib bhai, verna banda kis qabil hy. mein samajhta hoo keh self introspection bohat mushkil kam hy. har insaan ki asal haqeeqat wo hoti hy jo doosroon ki aksariat ussay samajhtay hein verna tou har insaan iss ghalat fehmi mein hee mubtala rehta hy keh mein hee perfect hoo.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 18:28 #

  19. javedsheikh
    Members

    پردے میں رہنے دو پردہ نہ اٹھاؤ
    پردہ جو اٹھہ گیا تو بھید کھل جائے گا

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 18:52 #

  20. haider3
    member

    Kisi ko to perfect hona hi hai akhirqar qar. Kyoo nahin hum khud?

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 19:19 #

  21. achtung
    Member

    mirza ghalib bhai

    kiya aap mujh sey iss baat par ittefaq nahee karein gey keh perfect sirif allah hy? insaan, allah ki makhlooq, perfect kabhi nahee ho sakta.

    haan, kutch log, khwa woh kissi bhi aqeeday sey taaluq rakhtey hoo, kutch doosroo sey behtar ho saktey hein.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 19:26 #

  22. theimrannasir
    Member

    Selfintrospection is above supreme court where you should summon yourself daily for your own rectification and amelioration. Honestly speaking, we never be candid with others,however we are forthright or outspoken. For instance, can you be candid with us about your sexual orientation? (if you'll pardon my expression). Can you be candid with us about your ulterior motives regarding some most personal issues? So I'll daresay it should be personal as per it has been suggested in our religon. Because you can rectify yourself if you kept your shorcoming secret but surely it would be nothing to impossible to retrieve the situation if it became public.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 19:46 #

  23. haider3
    member

    Dear me. My above sentence was only supposed to be a silly joke. Nothing more.

    This said, of course, achtung, you're right. Perfection is reserved for God. And some of us are better than others.

    Javedhsheikh sahib, self-reticence is also no bad thing. There, too, one can't claim everyone should remove the veil and reveal the real person. In fact, is it even necessary? Speak to someone a bit and listen attentively, and one might have a fair idea of what that person might be like within.

    theimrannasir - You brought up quite another point there: how much honesty can one allow oneself when speaking to a third party. Most of us are wholly without dark secrets, I imagine. Only a few are so afflicted that they have something to hide. But still you're right. And God does know what intentions come with any of our actions. May he forgive us our weaknesses and help us daily to improve.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 20:04 #

  24. singh isking
    Member

    guys yesterday i posted lot of post on this website i was awake whole night i was trying to run away from reality,i was trying to be escapist. fact is my father back home in india is on life support now i had to fly today .docters told to inform sons.i dont know what will happen.just pray for his well being .i may not be online for 1-2 months .take care all u guys pray god to give me strength to face the worse.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 20:41 #

  25. haider3
    member

    Yes, singh isking, our prayers are with you all the way. Be strong, be brave, take care, God bless.

    Posted 2 years ago on 28 Apr 2010 21:34 #

  26. toamin
    member

    mirza ghalib

    perhaps a misunderstanding, my occupation is not teaching... :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 29 Apr 2010 3:10 #

  27. haider3
    member

    So sorry, then, Salam Sahib. I thought it was. You seemed to know youth well and I think you said something along those lines too. I simply jumped to the wrong conclusio. But even teaching is no bad an occupation really, honourable all in all. I salute the powers of your memory then.

    Also, did you see why poor SI was so hyper recently? It took his mind off more painful things.

    Posted 2 years ago on 29 Apr 2010 7:18 #

  28. toamin
    member

    agreed, teaching is no doubt an honorable and respectable occupation.

    in that thread "Shaping young minds program (SYMP)" i mentioned having responsibility of shaping young minds, but not as occupation/profession :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 29 Apr 2010 7:25 #

  29. haider3
    member

    Yes, thank you. I shall be more careful about jumping to conclusions the next time.

    Posted 2 years ago on 29 Apr 2010 8:15 #

  30. achtung
    Member

    singh bhai

    all my best wishes for you and your family.

    Posted 2 years ago on 29 Apr 2010 8:23 #

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