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This forum has grossly tilted to the right. Where are you MQM guys?

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azizi
Member

I think some “liberal fascists” urf “2nd class Muslims” urf “Jahannmis” are needed to put some evenness. Please unban people like liberalkarachi and others to bring back the other flavors of new ideas.

Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 19:03 #
zia m
Member

Azizi,
Good one!
We also miss truepakistani and lal bichoo.
Fundos singing to the choir can get boring.

Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 19:07 #
SufiSoul
Member

What a Tactic,sugar coated tactics...lolzzzz

Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 19:13 #
nota
Member

@SufiSoul
I laughed out at the talk of "new ideas" :)

Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 19:15 #
Faarigh Jazbati
member

Reen Reen Reen Reen..... mummy mummy mummy mommy mommy please help me. we dont have any arguements left, we have been beaten left right and centre, we have been slapped around with the proper arguements and facts and figure.... we dont know what to do...... please mommy save us and help us ... Reen Reen Reen Reen

Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 19:19 #
nota
Member

@Faarigh Jazbati

Indeed an admission of @ss-whooping! :)

Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 19:22 #
zia m
Member

Standing ovation for the choir! :)))

Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 19:24 #
SufiSoul
Member

FJ,

Matlab hy k maar maar k Bootha bigar giya...

lol lol lol

Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 19:34 #
zia m
Member

http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/california-on-the-brink-of-financial-collapse-is-uncle-sam-dying#post-148112

Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 19:49 #
SufiSoul
Member

I HAVE MY OWN WAY FOR ANSWERS.......

Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 19:52 #
zia m
Member

http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/who-agrees#post-146623

Blatant lies!

Posted 2 years ago on 17 May 2010 19:53 #
KHAN_Sahib
Member

lol@Zia...

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 1:33 #
khanseena1
Member

For your information MQM is not the only non right leaning party

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 2:04 #
kulla
Member

does anyone know what right and left means... these days everyone likes to call themselves left...

None of the political parties in Pakistan are true Left. Just because they are liberal doesn't make them left.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 3:04 #
semirza
Moderator

Members having opinions, thoughts or views left or right are free to express themselves within the confines of COC.
I believe peace and tranquility should prevail to promote positive, rational but quality discussions.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 4:17 #
Wahid Doyum
Member

It is hard to post anything when comments not in line with agencies wishes is hidden or deleted.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 4:51 #
Shock
Members

Of course, you have to look towards secular people to get new ideas. The Islamic brain is simply not capable of doing that.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 6:51 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@Shock: I challenge your claim in this above post.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 6:54 #
Beenai
Moderator

a good mix of opinion is always healthy for a discussion.
one sided discussion are not discussions really .

while remaining within COC everybody has a right to express his views .

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 7:33 #
Shock
Members

@hariskhan

No need for it. It was just a response to the Kharji who started this thread. Actually it is true to some extent, if you look at it.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 7:35 #
sasherwani
Members

@ Azizi,

MQM is not the only leftist party in Pakistan! One can be moderate/liberal without belonging to MQM.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 8:02 #
toamin
member

i see more secular liberal postings on this thread than anti-seculars-

but i do observe that they are running out of "new ideas"

well... i guess not their fault, it is the inverted capitalist pyramid that is on the fall... don't cling to it :)

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 11:03 #
javedsheikh
Members

There are indications about official and unofficial attempts to make this forum as a platform to promote and maintain the Ideology of Taqleed.
But the flow of Tajdeed is so strong, powerful and overwhelming that no barricade, hurdle or emotional obstacle would succeed to block its passage.
Innovations, inventions and discoveries would continue to emerge in order to make human life more attractive.

No sermon is need to prove its presence, where the Sun is shinning brightly.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 11:55 #
toamin
member

interesting 'tajdeed' to promote taqleed of secular ideology :)

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 12:07 #
sasherwani
Members

I think its more than obvious if we look around us, whether Tajdeed or Taqleed is on the boom!

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 12:10 #
zia m
Member

Both Tariq Ramadan and Ziauddin Sardar aare against secularism and are still hated by the fundamentalists.
But that is a topic for separate discussion.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 12:18 #
wantinsaf
Member

It really is useless to indulge in discussion which divides people into leftist and rightist.
Muhammed did not label people as leftist or rightist neither did caliphs.Even our very own leaders like Iqbal and Quaid e Azam did not use these terms.
We are Muslims and we need to put effrorts in becoming better Muslims.
We are Pakistani and we need to be better Pakistani.
Stop using western vocabulary and try using natural vocabulary:good or bad and right or wrong.
Why do we try to solve our problems using western vocabulary?
we have got to be original.Assumme had Late Nusrta Fateh A Khan used guitar,would he have been that popular?Originality leaves the influence not blind following to other's ideas.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 12:21 #
toamin
member

sherwani

a muslim believer will be a follower of hukm of Allah, a secular believer will be a follower of secular ideology, each of us is a 'follower', even sheikhjaved himself is a follower of some other human being- i challenge :)

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 12:23 #
Anti Pakistan
Member

salam

جاويد کے نام

خودي کے ساز ميں ہے عمر جاوداں کا سراغ
خودي کے سوز سے روشن ہيں امتوں کے چراغ
يہ ايک بات کہ آدم ہے صاحب مقصود
ہزار گونہ فروغ و ہزار گونہ فراغ!
ہوئي نہ زاغ ميں پيدا بلند پروازي
خراب کر گئي شاہيں بچے کو صحبت زاغ
حيا نہيں ہے زمانے کي آنکھ ميں باقي
خدا کرے کہ جواني تري رہے بے داغ
ٹھہر سکا نہ کسي خانقاہ ميں اقبال
کہ ہے ظريف و خوش انديشہ و شگفتہ دماغ

TO JAVID

A nation’s life is illumined by Selfhood,
Selfhood is the pathway to everlasting life.

Earth-bound crows cannot aspire to the cagle’s flights,
But they corrupt the eagle’s lofty, noble habits.

May God make thee a virtuous, blameless youth;
Thou livest in an age deprived of decency.

Iqbal was not at ease in a monastery,
For he is bright, and sprightly, and full of wit,

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 12:25 #
sweettruth
Member

To all whinging and whining Conservative members

All Liberals/Leftists work hard to feed their families. I cannot give up my day job to sit in front of my laptop. You guys are rich and can afford to sit in front of your laptop/Internet whole day.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 15:02 #
nota
Member

@Sweettruth
Now that statement is a sweeping generalization based on a false assumption -- an 'unsweetlie' if you will :)

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 15:45 #
sweettruth
Member

@nota

You guys write tons of text on these pages which I cannot do (due to my other unavoidable engagements).

Currently Right is out-numbering Left on PkPolitics. But remember, Right can outnumber us but cannot outsmart Left.

Well, you guys have time to sit in front of a computer but I cannot afford such a luxury.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 15:57 #
nota
Member

First of all I am as Left as can be :-P

Second, how can you assume just because we are more active that we are "rich"? Is that how "outsmarting" works?

"urrently Right is out-numbering Left on PkPolitics."
Wrong again. We so-called 'Right' are very few -- just more effective at exposing your "left" (and whooping it's bvtt) so you feel we are an "army" :-P

"Right can outnumber us but cannot outsmart Left. "
As proven by the start of this very shout for "Help!" :-)

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 16:05 #
sweettruth
Member

@nota

Left never preaches extremism and violence but Right does. Your numbers are higher on this forum but your viewpoint is weaker and lacks insight. Conservatism has damaged the planet Earth more than anything else.

Oh Well, Don't worry Mr. nota; I would never call anyone for help to deal with your inept comments on this forum.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 16:25 #
time
Blocked

It's not just this forum right has out-numbered left on grounds in Pakistan thanks to US backed jihadi culture nurthred under Zia. PPP, MQM and ANP represents political left where as old MMA, PTI and all factions of Muslim League depicts political right. If you combine right vote it's probably 1.3 to 1.5 times of left.

US organized religious right to combat communism and is undoing that to fight muslim extremism.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 16:41 #
nota
Member

@Sweettruth
"Left never preaches extremism and violence but Right does"

Oh, since when? Isn't the Left cheering on operation in Swat and FATA and Waziristan and cheering drone strikes and screaming "Nuke Taliban!"? Hasn't that left thousand's dead and tens of thousands wounded and made at least 3 MILLION IDPs? If that is not preaching extremism and violence, I don't know what is!

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 16:46 #
sweettruth
Member

@nota

What would you do if someone attacks your house? No matter you are conservative or liberal person. Just tell us what you would do.
Local people in areas like Swat were suffering at the hands of talibans. That's why operation was needed.

Waziristan has become epicentre of jihadi culture and supply of suicide killers for the rest of the world especially Pakistan is suffering hugely. We told Americans that Pakistani Laws are not applicable in our tribal areas; Americans said well ok then we will bomb them. If we cannot control our own semi autonomous tribal areas then the world will and they are.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 17:00 #
nota
Member

@Sweettruth
"Local people in areas like Swat were suffering at the hands of talibans."

Oh, and they are NOT suffering now, just like Iraqis ;-)

"epicentre"? Now that's a term borrowed right of the propaganda press!! :-P

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 17:11 #
sweettruth
Member

@nota

Come on man; call spade a spade.

People left Swat due to fear of talibans and you are denying this fact.

What else should I used instead of epicentre? You tell me a word and I will replace my post with that word. Please don't tell me Waziristan is the most peaceful place on earth.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 17:22 #
SufiSoul
Member

Historical Quotes Of The 2010 From Salam,

a muslim believer will be a follower of hukm of Allah, a secular believer will be a follower of secular ideology, each of us is a 'follower', even sheikhjaved himself is a follower of some other human being- i challenge :) ......

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i see more secular liberal postings on this thread than anti-seculars-

but i do observe that they are running out of "new ideas"

well... i guess not their fault, it is the inverted capitalist pyramid that is on the fall... don't cling to it :) .........

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 17:23 #
lota6177
Members

@nota
do you have any idea about the number of people that have been unfairly banned on this forum to bring your confidence level up? You are a being helped by an empire who gives every wicket taking yorker a no ball. Carry on with your rant about you having superior arguments. Lol

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 17:28 #
time
Blocked

@Sweettruth

I don't think right has the monoply on political violence. Maoist rebels in India, Stalin's forced communism, MQM's drilling in human are just few examples of violence from the left. Violence by right is even more glaring as you said.

We can not defend political violence irrespective of its source.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 17:34 #
nota
Member

@lota
"@nota
do you have any idea about the number of people that have been unfairly banned on this forum to bring your confidence level up?"

No I don't (Maybe semirza can help in that regard with this unfair and false accusation). I get all my confidence from facts and my beliefs and my faith (and my friend's like @time's encouragement ;-) )

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 17:39 #
semirza
Moderator

I beg to differ from observation by Mr. lota.
A member is responsible for his own conduct/actions.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 17:55 #
time
Blocked

@nota

to be precise by you get confidence by twisting my comments or for that matter anyone's comments.

Your "arguments" that you are so proud of starts and ends with parsing other's statements and injecting your meaningless, irrelavent, sarcastic one liners. If your faith had anything to do with your confidence we 'd have seen this cyber jihadi converted into real Jihadi.

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 17:56 #
SufiSoul
Member

Manchester United having highly Professional players of football from around the world..
Every one can observe that all the other club's players ,playing against MU will always be busy with Darmas on Ground against MU Players for Mistackling,fouls and thing like that..

Players of Manchester united never come up with such "techniques" against others CUZ they are highly professionals and they only believe on their professional Performance NOT other TACTICS....

The same situation is here from professional(MU/Right) and non-professionals(left)...

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 18:03 #
Faarigh Jazbati
member

I highy object to the title of this thread. This is an other attempt to divide muslims on the line of western twisted view of the soceity and the political views and understanding of those views. In islam and muslim soceities there is no such thing as "Right" or "Left" of the political divide . If Islam says that punishment of stealing is to cut the hand (off course after meeting all the conditions and handed down by a competent and eligible authority)there could be no right or left opinions about that. If Islam says that punishment for murder is death then there is no left or right political opinion about it.

There is no such thing called conservative islam, liberal islam, secular islam, sufi islam, moderate islam.

Islam is Islam.

FJ

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 18:09 #
nota
Member

@time
"If your faith had anything to do with your confidence we 'd have seen this cyber jihadi converted into real Jihadi. "

But like you said, my pen is mightier than your swords ;-)

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 18:13 #
SufiSoul
Member

You Are right FJ..

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 18:14 #
time
Blocked

@nota

I know thats the reason you are passing on the jacket instead of giving it a try. You had ample of opportunities even in Lahore. May be you were part of a gang that attacked Srilankan team .. who knows ...

Posted 2 years ago on 18 May 2010 18:26 #

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