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  1. expakistani

    Ref from last post
    @Sir Javee sahib
    جناب شکریہ آپ کی عزت افزائی کا ....کسی قبل تو نہی مگر آپ کی شاگردی کی کوہاھش ضرور ہے ..امید ہے کی تھوڑی محنت سے زمین ور کافیہ مل سکتا ہے .

    @Musician
    اکبر الہا بادی کی کسی مجومے کا ٹکرا ہے ...... وہ بھی عام عوام میں سے تھے ور ہم بھی... بوہت شکریہ امید ہے کی پسند آیا ہوگا آپ کو ..

    Posted 5 years ago on 23 Nov 2009 1:53 #
  2. Musician

    Khansaheb Peterpan
    Jaan-e-Moseeqi Javedsheikh
    zjshami

    I have been following the ongoings on a certain topic and my message to zjshami is "relax and ponder over what Ghalib said manay moons ago."

    Posted 4 years ago on 23 Nov 2009 17:40 #
  3. zjshami

    @ Musician,
    Thanks for the posting.
    I have saved this ghazal at 'My Favorite' Folder.
    shan-e-mauseeqi JS is at work right now.
    At his work place there is a lock at sites like YouTube, Myspace etc.
    He will be excited to listen such a good ghazal.

    Posted 4 years ago on 23 Nov 2009 17:59 #
  4. Shan-e-Mauseeqi Musician,

    Thanks for the Ghazal.
    Mohammad Rafi has done real justice to Mirza Ghalib.

    Here is an other good find from Hamid Ali Khan,
    singing a Ghazal from Khawaja Haider Ali Aatish.

    Posted 4 years ago on 24 Nov 2009 14:23 #
  5. Shan-e-Mauseeqi Musician,

    I found a very rare pick, a combo of Ejaz Husain Hazravi and Ahmad Faraz.

    Khan Sahib Peterpan could confirm if this is in Raga Darbari.

    Posted 4 years ago on 24 Nov 2009 14:41 #
  6. Salam

    I think this is a classical dance on Darbari Raag :)

    (Only for fun)

    Posted 4 years ago on 24 Nov 2009 14:46 #
  7. Musician

    Jaan-e-Moseeqi Javedshikh

    Thank you Sir, for two wonderful items. Ejaz Hussain Hazravi is indeed rare. I remember he first starting singing from Raido Pkistan Peshawar.

    "Meri namaaz-e-janaaza parhai logon ney
    Muray thay jin ka liay woh rahe wuzoo karte

    Wah
    Blues, blues blues...........

    I offer you the following in return and draw your attention to two hasil-e-ghazal verses by Kharir Ghaznavi..

    Youn to thay meri rag-e-jaan se bhi woh nazdeek tar
    Aansoo-on ki dhundh mein lekin na pehchaney gaye

    and the Maqtaa

    Kia qiamat hai ke Khatir kushta-e-shab bhi thay hum
    Shubha jab aaie toe mujrim hum hi gardaney gaye.

    @Khansaheb Peterpan.
    I like to know the Raag in which the above ghazal has been composed. The notes have hit me and I like to know what it is. Sounds as if it has notes from Ahir Bhariv but then there is something else as well.

    Posted 4 years ago on 24 Nov 2009 21:14 #
  8. Shan-e-Mauseeqi Musician,

    You are winner of the day. I see you at victory Stand.
    Wah-Wah-Wah-Wah

    Khan Sahib Peterpan is an Encyclopedia of Music, Literature and Politics.

    Posted 4 years ago on 24 Nov 2009 22:14 #
  9. Musician

    Kisi ne kaha tha

    "Buhat ziada na chaho mujhe khudaa ke liay
    buhzt zia mohabbat bhi maar deti hai"

    Posted 4 years ago on 24 Nov 2009 22:23 #
  10. mohabbat ke maaroon ko kya koi maray
    woh ban jaatay hain dastanoon ki zeenat

    (Just composed. How is that?)

    Posted 4 years ago on 24 Nov 2009 22:44 #
  11. Musician

    Khoobsoorat hai. yeh to "amad" lagti hai. Lekin meri "awurd" yeh hai.

    Mohabbat ke maaray hain aise sitaray
    jo ban jate hain aasmanoon ke zeenat

    Adaab

    Posted 4 years ago on 24 Nov 2009 23:06 #
  12. mohabbat se mahroom reh jaatay hain jo
    woh ban jaatay hain karkhanoon ki zeenat

    Aadab

    Posted 4 years ago on 24 Nov 2009 23:31 #
  13. Musician

    Mohabbat me khaya hai dokha jinhon ne
    wo ban jati hain balakhanoon ki zeenat

    (kuch maza nahee aya but radeef qafia hai

    Posted 4 years ago on 25 Nov 2009 0:05 #
  14. Musician

    Mohabbat ke maroon ki sub dastanein
    houi jati hain qissa-khanoon ki zeenat

    Aadaab Ustad-e-Mohtarim

    Posted 4 years ago on 25 Nov 2009 0:46 #
  15. mohaabat ki azmat se inkar matt kar
    zameen say banay aasmanoon ki zeenat

    mohabat se jo shakhs dhoka karay ga
    woh ban jaey ga jailkhanoon ki zeenat

    Adaab

    Posted 4 years ago on 25 Nov 2009 1:15 #
  16. Musician

    Arz karta hoon aur
    apni begum ke naam karta hoon

    "Tu shoala, tu shabnam, tu sher-o-tarranum
    Tu hi hai, tu hi, meray khawboon ki zeenat"

    Posted 4 years ago on 25 Nov 2009 1:29 #
  17. I guess this is an indication that you are going to your bedroom.
    Me too.
    Good Night.

    Posted 4 years ago on 25 Nov 2009 1:46 #
  18. Shan-e-Mauseeqi Musician,

    Here is a proposal for your consideration that a member who contributes something positive at the 'Chit Chat Gup Shup' corner, should be awarded with a title of Sitara-e-Forum.
    I reccommend the following members who deserve to be conferred with the Title of Sitara-e Forum:

    Sitara Bsobaid
    Sitara SufiSoul
    Sitara Shikra
    Sitara JJKhan
    Sitara Unique
    Sitara Jhassan
    Sitara adnak
    Sitara Zjshami
    Sitara expakistani

    We need to get the endorsement from:

    Khan Sahib Peterpan and
    Nishan-e-Forum Dr. Khan Sahib

    Posted 4 years ago on 25 Nov 2009 20:09 #
  19. Anonymous

    izzat afzai kaa shukriyaa.

    dhondoo **** agar mulkoo mulkoo
    milnay kay nahi nayaab hein hum
    tabeer hai jiss kee hasrat-o-ghum
    aae humnafasoo woh khaab hein humm

    aae dardd bata kuch tou hee bata
    ab takk yeh muamma hall naa hoaa
    hum mein hai dil-e-baytaab nihaa
    yaa aap dil-e-baytaab hein hum

    Posted 4 years ago on 25 Nov 2009 22:45 #
  20. Sitara-e-Forum bsobaid,

    Very good selection.
    Shad Azeemabadi wrote this beautiful ghazal
    and Abida Parveen is at her best.

    Posted 4 years ago on 25 Nov 2009 23:05 #
  21. Musician

    Jaan-e-Moseeqi javedsheikh

    I second your proposal. Good idea which rewards positive contributions with positive attitudes. I have a further suggestion and Admin will have to come in to help and that is that once a member has been decorated with the Sitra, when the member logs in next and posts a document a Star should appear with the member's embelem, preferable in Green Colour of Pakistan. Or underneath the narrative "Member" it should say Sitara-e-Forum. Will be interested in your views.

    For Sitara-e- Forum bsobaid who appeats to be an Abida Parveen fan, I offer a ghazal in Raag Yaman.
    Hasil-e-ghazal sher is :

    "hum anjumun mein sab ki taraf dekhtay rahay
    apni trah se koi akela naheen mila"

    Wah, kia baat hai.

    Posted 4 years ago on 25 Nov 2009 23:44 #
  22. Shan-e-Mauseeqi Musician,

    Very good idea that the Title earned by a member could be displayed with each of his posting with a Star and Title.

    The participation at the "Chit Chat Gup Shup Corner" is required to earn these Titles.

    The members discussing and debating about other Social, Political or Current Affairs corners at the Forum, cannot qualify before entering this Corner and they should come here with a gift.
    Once all the rules and regulations are finalized, we can request the Administrator to issue a Notification.

    This is the only corner which is Free of Hate.

    Thanks for the Ghazal from Mustafa Zaidi sung by Abida Parveen.

    Posted 4 years ago on 26 Nov 2009 0:16 #
  23. Musician

    Jaan-e-Moseeqi javedsheikh

    The qualfication should be not just participation but in a very constructive way and depite disagreements there should not be any mud-slinging, ideally like Sher-o-Naghma.

    I take it that you will communicate directly with Admin to explore the possibilities.

    Posted 4 years ago on 26 Nov 2009 0:35 #
  24. Shan-e-Mauseeqi Musician.
    You are right.
    At most of the corners members are fighting against each other on issues which would never be concluded.
    Every member carries a pile of knowledge and claims to be at right.
    We don't want this Corner to be invaded by the same feelings.
    Here only Poetry and Music is right.
    A member would be welcomed only where he contributes something positive.
    After all this is a Corner to enjoy Sher-o-Naghma for peace of mind.

    Posted 4 years ago on 26 Nov 2009 2:16 #
  25. EID MUBARAK

    Here Sami Yusaf, the king of Islamic Pop is at a Concert:

    Posted 4 years ago on 26 Nov 2009 12:14 #
  26. Musician

    Jaan-e-Moseeqi
    WA-ALAIKUM EID MUBARAK TO YOU
    AND EID MUBARAK TO ALL THE POSTERS (The Khansahebs, the Sitras, the critics and the troublemakers). As the lyricist says it is the day to end hatred and a day to forgive.

    Thank you for Sami Yousaf
    It is wornderfuul.The item is worth half my musical collections.

    For Admin's attention

    Can you arrange this item to be the theme of the website with sound for a day or so?

    Posted 4 years ago on 26 Nov 2009 13:57 #
  27. Unique

    hi Everone

    A lot has been done since my last visit.
    I must say that I am pleasently surprised to find my name in the list proposed by Javed Sheikh.I am very pleased but I question myself. Have I made anyh real contribution to this Thread? The honest answer I get from myself is NO.

    Javed Sheikh has said that any new member to come in this forum must bring a gift. I think the new member should bring the following:
    Either two verses of a Ghazal.
    Your own poetry OR
    post a very good piece of music either classical or a light one but based on classical.

    What do you think javedsheikh?

    Posted 4 years ago on 26 Nov 2009 18:58 #
  28. Sitara-e-Forum Unique,
    You got it.
    The gift at this Corner are accepted in the form of Music, Poetry and an encouraging positive input.

    The Titles earned by the Members, for the time being are, unofficially, valid only at the 'Chit Chat and Gup Shup Corner' of the Forum.

    These Titles and Honors cannot be used at other Corners without the Notification from the Administrator.

    Posted 4 years ago on 26 Nov 2009 19:23 #
  29. Anonymous

    thank you musician for this wonderful piece by Abida.

    Posted 4 years ago on 26 Nov 2009 19:32 #
  30. Unique

    Okay Gentlemen
    Here are two gifts from me which I hope will meet with the Seniors approval and acceptance.:

    Ae gardish-i-ayyam mein kuch soch rahaa hoon
    Ae sqqi-i-gulfam main kuch soch rahaa hoon
    Pehle bari raghbat thi tere naam se mugh ko
    Ab soon ke tera naam mein kuch soach rahaa hoon

    Posted 4 years ago on 26 Nov 2009 21:22 #
  31. Khan Sahib Peterpan,
    Shan-e-Mauseeqi Musician,

    As told earlier,
    I start my Friday with something emotional and devotional.
    Sit back, shut your eyes and listen.

    Posted 4 years ago on 27 Nov 2009 3:05 #
  32. Musician

    Jaan-e-Moseeqi Javedsheikh

    Thank you for Mohammad Rafi. Having listened to it my day also started in an emotional mood which was followed by a evotional mood by saying my Eid prayers in the local Masjid. The piece is very simple and very moving.

    Ghalib hamen na cheir ke phir josh-e-ashak se
    Bathayn hain hum tahayya-e-toofan kiay huay

    Posted 4 years ago on 27 Nov 2009 20:58 #
  33. Musician

    To All

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Nov 2009 18:20 #
  34. zjshami

    Eid Mubarak,
    To all brothers and sisters @ Pkpolitics.

    Posted 4 years ago on 28 Nov 2009 19:39 #
  35. Musician

    Jaan-e-Moseeqi javedsheikh
    Khansaheb Peterpan
    Nishan-e-Forum Dr. Khan_Sahib
    zjashami

    You are all very conspicious by your absence.
    Here is something to take you to the memory lane........

    Posted 4 years ago on 29 Nov 2009 22:22 #
  36. KHAN_Sahib

    Thanks a Million, Musician sahib...
    Aap kee nazre enayat hay...
    I do enjoy your links (all of u) on this thread... Its really comforting and relaxing to re-discover these old classics... Mazza ahe gaya!
    Good taste..all of u..
    n Happy Eid Mubbarak to all of u once again!

    Posted 4 years ago on 30 Nov 2009 0:07 #
  37. Sahnaz

    dear frnds
    i tried to listen all songs posted by u but wanna knw one question why there is aheavy dose of hindi in all raags?? im nt big fan of these type of music but smhow they r like fresh breeze.i am more in semi classical songs. here r sm of ma fav songs

    i hope u wud like ma collection
    thnx

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 16:58 #
  38. @ My dear Sahnaz,
    Your selection is very good and one would like to save as favorite.
    Let me tell you about this thread.
    Here we encourage to share a combination of poetry, music, melody and information about the Science and Art of Music.
    There are millions of film songs at the Internet but few draw the attention.
    You asked about the doze of Hindi words at Classical Raga. The Indian Classical music is a part of Hindu Religion and Pandits of Music selected some phrases and words to satisfy and justify the scale of a particular composition.
    Hazrat Ameer Khusro and some other Muslim innovators introduced Urdu and Persian phrases for the Rags, such as
    * nazar-i-karam farmao
    * anokha ladla khelan ko mange chand
    * yaar-e-man biyya biyya
    * pesh-e-yaar mee raqsam

    Khan Sahib Peterpan and Shan-e-Mauseeqi Musician are more qualified to give more details.

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 17:22 #
  39. Sahnaz

    @ JS

    JS i m more concern to listen nice music rather thn to knw how it develop..lolzzz..well i m trough a article on raagas..as i was searching on net to make me more comfortable with topic...wat i came to knw is tht raaga originally came frm ancient india (say pre arayan or contemprary to vedic periods) as most of hymns sings in specific way. rest is history.

    thnx

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 17:30 #
  40. @ My dear Sahnaz,

    I tried to answer your question:

    "but wanna know one question why there is a heavy dose of hindi in all raags?"

    There is another Rule at this Corner of the Forum that whoever comes here with some positive input, qualifies for the Title of Sitara.
    At this Corner, in future, you will be addressed as:

    "Sitara-e-Forum Sehnaz"

    Congratulations.

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 17:53 #
  41. Sahnaz

    ha ha ha.....i will tell to ma dad tht i got a very high forum reward..

    thnx

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 17:55 #
  42. Musician

    Sitar-e-Forum Sahnaz

    A very warm welcome to the forum.
    Jaan-e-Moseeqi Javedsheikh had made a rule that any one coming to Sher-o-Naghma should bring a gift. You brought more than one. I agree with you that good peice music is the one which is pleasing on one's ears irrespective of its categories. And your choice of gifts tht you have brought tells me that you have a very strong liking for classical/semiclassicals. Your choice from Baijuwara alone will quilify you for a shining sitara. I noticed how you started from a light song nd progressed towards the classical. Good.

    Here is something very light to welcome you to the forum.

    AND your DAD will be very pround of you!!

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 18:26 #
  43. Sahnaz

    Musician

    thnx...i really like this song..well i also in sufi songs...bcz sufi songs show real freedom of thoughts. they r out of all boundries and very much true to this world. i lv bulle shah's poetry. if all of u can understand punjabi there r sm nice songs to u.

    thnx

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 18:46 #
  44. Shan-e-Mauseeqi Musician,
    Thanks for your prompt response and a good welcome song from Madan Mohan.

    Sitara-e-Forum Sehnaz,
    You will find this, the only Corner @ the Forum, very pleasant, lively, friendly, entertaining and encouraging, without any tension, stress, heart burning, hatred, criticism, allegation or personal assassination.

    The credit goes to
    Nishan-e-Forum Dr. Khan Sahib, (the Convener of this Idea)
    Khan Sahib Peterpan,
    Shan-e-Mauseeqi Musician.

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 18:47 #
  45. Anonymous

    sufi music = Abida Parveen and Sohrab Faqeer

    Mr. Musician, are you someone's dad on here??

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 20:10 #
  46. Musician

    Sitara-e-Forum bsobaid

    No, whatever gave you that idea?

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 20:31 #
  47. Anonymous

    "AND your DAD will be very pround of you!!"

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 20:39 #
  48. Musician

    Sitara-e-Forum bsobaid
    Sitara-e-Forum sahnaz

    To both of you. I have a feeling that you will like it.

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 20:54 #
  49. inzi

    MEHDI HASAN - RAQS ZANJEER PEHAN - ZARQA

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 21:00 #
  50. Anonymous

    Very Nice Shafqat Ali Khan. Thanks!

    Posted 4 years ago on 01 Dec 2009 21:23 #
  51. My apologies for being absent(Thanks giving holidays).

    Plz enjoy this

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Dec 2009 6:26 #
  52. Musician

    @Khansaheb Peterpan
    Thank you for Gunkali. The notes suggest it to be a late night or early morning Raag. Please enlighten.

    Glad to have you back and now you will have to work overtime. Few days back I posted a message for you to pass on some knowledge regarding an item by Ustad Amanat Ali Khan (go zara si baat par...)

    I would love to know.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Dec 2009 8:55 #
  53. Sahnaz

    some more nice classical songs

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Dec 2009 13:03 #
  54. Musician

    Sitara-e-Forum Sahnaz

    Thank you. The best of all was Richa Sharma. She is good.
    Here is something for you both the poetry and music.
    Lyrics by Ahmad Nadeem Qasmi and music composed by Ghulam Ali and rendered by Asha ofcurse. Close your eyes and enjoy.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Dec 2009 13:25 #
  55. Sitara-e-Forum Sahnaz,

    Your selection represents a high quality of your choice.
    All is best of the bests.

    Chap Tilak, almost 700 years old composition from Hazrat Ameer Khusro, made everyone jump and cry when I played your pick at the Yamaha sound system at my office.
    Thanks.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Dec 2009 14:30 #
  56. Anonymous

    Chaap tilak is my favourite. I like Naheed Akhtar's and Abida Pareveen's version.

    Posted 4 years ago on 02 Dec 2009 15:13 #
  57. @Musician Sahab

    Gunkali is a morning raaga.

    I am not sure about the composition of Go zara si baat by Ustad Amanat Ali Khan I will check with my friend who has more knowledge than me.

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Dec 2009 3:57 #
  58. Raavi

    Friends,

    It took quite a few minutes to go through this thread. You people have wonderful music selection and good taste!

    Recently I was brooding that Pakistan has been contributing to music/stage/cinema! What happened now? Why the sources of such great music and art have dried?

    The music like Raqs Zanjir pehen kar bhi and all other you have posted is great.

    Once I heard one gentleman saying that the poetry, music and art nurture when the societies are sinking. He gave example of era when great poetry was being written by Ghalib, Mir et al. But it is contrary in Pakistan. Society is going down and with it the music, art, poetry and literature. Sad! Really sad! Shall we not see some great literary and art figures in our lives? Does this mean that our brains have become barren? We can not contribute anything but hatred?? We are indifferent to art, music and sanity???

    God help us!!

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Dec 2009 12:16 #
  59. Musician

    @Shriq

    You obviously have a sensitive heart and you should be proud of that. Only people with delicate sensitivities can appreciate good music and poetry.

    I may not have the perfect answer but to put very crudely, it is a matter of demand and supply. If the people want to read and hear good poetry and music, you will find that in Pakistan there are gems available in both the fields. Sadly, in Pakistan people feel so insecure that the time they should be allocating to leisure is devoted to worries about security food etc. A hungry poet or a musicician can be more creative becuause of hunger but an insecure artist is likely to become forgetful of his creativity.

    Given time all the wonderful aritists will come to fore and the art will be alive again.

    I leave you with this message:

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Dec 2009 12:48 #
  60. Sahnaz

    some very rare and nice songs. hope u will enjoy. cheers

    Posted 4 years ago on 03 Dec 2009 13:27 #

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