Sindhi Association of North America (SANA) has said that the people of Sindh who had lived under discriminatory governments for many years had elected PPP with expectations that it would end their sufferings when it came to power. But it is very unfortunate that the plight of the people has continued unabated under the PPP government.
http://www.wichaar.com/news/285/ARTICLE/15259/2009-07-09.html
toamin
member
Sindh ka beta ya sindh ka ghadaar?
What has he given to Sindh except 'topi'?
JJ, chakkar de gaya na aapko bhi. Topi bhi nahee dee. Dikha kar wapis lay gaya.
Yeh 'deenay' walay nahee, 'leenay' walay tabqat hein. Aisay tabqat ki mukhtalif idaroon mein kami naheen. Yeh awam kay jazbat sey khail kar Doulat aur Shorat kamatay hein.
toamin
member
lolz!
BaliMA
Member
jj naie pehlay cheekhain marie hain aur phir kushiyan manie hain. lagta haie topi mil gaiye haie.
Topi bhi kia 'cheez' hai.
toamin
member
you two are duplicates
Phir wohi 'Khadshat kay sumandar mein aik aur Ghota'
BaliMA
Member
baba jie toutta aaj mode maie nahie? kuch samaj nahie arahie aap kiya keh rahey hain baba jiee?
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
Kon sa beta Sindh ka bhaee jaan ?
1) Sindh main women teachers ne is PPP govt. ke khilaf muzahira kia
2) Sindh main, Sindh card wala nara fail ho gaya, kyoon ?
3) Sindh ke loag din ba din Zardari sb./PPP ke khilaf hote ja rahe hain
Zardari sb. President House main baith ke Altaf Hussain sb. ki tarhan taqreerain kyoon karte hain Sindhi loago'n se ?
Kon sa baita Sindh ka bhaee jaan ? Zardari sb. ya PPP ne kia kya hai Sindh ke liye, Feb 2008 se ab tak ?
A very shameful act on part of people who are playing the ethnic card. How different is PPP and MQM or other parties of the sort if both play the ethnicity card. It is about time people of other provinces start thinking about voting for PPP in future as they think of themselves only as one province party.
Between NWFP and Balochistan should start moaning as well as these two provinces never saw any significant leader on the helm. It springs to my mind the question that if small provinces (NWFP and Balochistan) can not get their leaders elected as PM then what good is the current system. We should have a system like US where Senate elects the PM and senate has equal number of seats for every province. NWFP and Balochistan are more oppressed then Sindh.
zingaro
Member
He is not son of Sindh at all. He is son of wealth and wealth only. His relationship is only with corruption and looted money which he has kept outside country. Ask the Sindhi Nationalist parties and they will tell who is this man. These goons say that Sindhi president is discriminated. What kind of discrimination? That he is not being given free hand to loot any thing he wants? Every Pakistani has same right whether living in any province. Those who talk ethnic should be given capital punishment.
Terrorists exposed
zingaro
Member
My foot such statements... Zardari is country ka mama nahi hay kay jo marzi karta phiray aur us ko koi poochnay wala na ho .. us nay is country ki khidmat ka wada kia tha .. public money pay wo president house mein betha hay .. us kay baap ka paisa nahi hay ... aur jo is country ka paisa khaa kay sahi kaam na karey .. to us ko saza hi milay gi na ..aur us ki tareefein thori hongi ....
zingaro
Member
btw somebody should ask this illiterate Raja Riyadh that whose dead body will come to Punjab as he himself belongs to Punjab ... I don't know why journalists don't ask such straight questions to these stooges...
toamin
member
Riaz in Punjab while Riyadh is in Saudi ;-)
That pandoo production is just trying to gain attention from his master like "hum bhi hain pancho sawaron main"
@ zingaro
yep terrorist Raja Riaz belongs to Faisalabad Punjab, he is acting like 'Sha Say Ziada Sha Ka Wafadar'
too much of Sindh card .
nobody is going to buy this any more .
PPP has used it to the end degree .
Nonsense! Sub Pakistani hain or Sindhi, Pakhtoon, Baluch, Punjabi, Kashmiri all.....Sub is surzameen key baitey hain.
ased
Member
sindh ka beta nahi balke apne gaon ka saiin
we need some one who would b :'Pakistan ka Beta '.not sindh or punjab ka beta ..
he would be more deserving of holding the position .
Pak Truth
Member
Let the process go. Pakistani Beta authomatically will be produced by the system. Nobody should try to derail the system
Derail the system? Means let zardari do what he is doing? Let Nawaz do what he is doing? Let MQM do what they are doing?
sorry
DISAGREE!
You can't let a corrupt person screw up the nation while u r waiting for the production of a true leader!
First u let these people sit on our head and then ask us to bear them too! BS!
Zardari was declared as 'Corrupt' before Elections.
Still, beyond my imagination why People of Pakistan voted for the PPP, rejecting and ignoring a very impressive and organized propaganda against Mr. 10%?
He was 'corrupt' when elected as President, unanimously.
There is a Constitutional procedure to remove a President and much wiser to follow that process what is known as Impeachment.
The discussion and debate at the Opinion Forums and Media Channels should be limited to form and create a public opinion with the help of documentary proofs, not a verdict.
shriq
Member
1988 Yateem Bachhi factor
2007 Shaheed bibi factor.
What would you call people of Paksitan?
EMOTIONAL FOOLS
'EMOTIONAL FOOLS'
You have a point.
Did they turn FOOLS after 1947 or they were also FOOLS when voted for Pakistan?
@Khan_Sahib
Spot on...sensible remarks from a learned senior who holds a thorough understanding of current happenings in and around Pakistan.
I salute your patriotism Khan_Sahib.
They have been made emotional fools when we heard the slogan of "Iddhar hum, udhar Tum.
For Impeachment, you need PML(N) and that party consists of eunuchs and cowards. Their Leaders are all hypocrite and equally corrupt like PPP Politicians.
Thanks SEMIRZA,
It takes on Patriotic to recognize the other patriotic. I think we all are Patriotic but may be with a different vision but I still believe that most of our scholar's (>90%) are very loyal to our country and Islam in General.
Good to see u on board Mirzasahib.. Ya tou may aap ko miss kur raha houn ya phir aap nay anna kum kur deeya hay!
Thanks Khan_Sahib, all of us miss you. We certainly gain when you are among us. Allah (ST) bless you.
expakistani
Member
Hakim Ali Zardari ko bhi nhi pata ke Asif kes ka beta hey...?
sindh ko kion elzam de rhey ho
may be serif $$$ ka hi ho? who knows
blinko
Member
Lets not fool ourselves Zardari is not Sind Ka Beta or for that Matter Pakistan ka beta,it is a misnomer,He is Pakistan ka lotera (the dacoit of Pakistan) Shouldnt he ba taken to task long with his henchmen the gang of 40 theives which also include the Govrnor of Punjab.
And by the way the fault lies in all of us the electorate who chose a certified MAD person to rule over us. What tomorrow he is to shoot the CJ dead he caould not be held responsible for he has submitted a certificate in the courts that he is mentally deranged.
toamin
member
Raza76
Member
@JJ Khan,
I wish BB ki yah dua zaroor pori ho. Yaar, I am lost to understand, that what has happend to entire PPP, they are defending him as if he is a prophet / or pakistan for that matter.
He is atmost a person, if I take most optimist view that all the cases against him are fake. Atleast we all know him someon who does not care about his words.
zingaro
Member
JS Sahib .. people of Pakistan never voted for this corrupt man. As I feel that even if you are asked to cast your vote with due honestly, you will not vote for him. If you remember Zardari always said that he is not candidate for any position in the governments. He always pretended to sit on backstage but when every thing came in order he showed his real face and exploited even the feeling and sentiments of ppp elected reps. Just imagine that if Zardari has told public that he will be a candidate of President if PPP gets majority, i have firm beleief that results could be very much different. But now they just utter **** that people of Pakistan voted for Zardari.
@ Dear zingaro,
From day one I wanted to see Mr. Zaradri just as Leader of the PPP without accepting any Executive Position.
(An open Letter to Zardari was posted here)
I failed to understand the developments in Islamabad what made him to hold the Position of President.
By doing that he has jeopardized the political career of his son Bilawal as well as damaged the vote bank of the PPP.
Now, instead of making a mockery, cartoons, criticism and Media Defamation, the Constitutional process should have been followed to remove him through Impeachment.
A member of the Parliament from PMLN or PMLQ or any other opposition camp, can initiate a Motion for his removal on the charges, being widely circulated at the Media.
toamin
member
@Raza,
We saw how PPP sneaked into power via pre-election settlement known as NRO. BB defied NRO hence it was necessary to take her down. She became too greedy to become powerful and it was not in the interest of America to have a powerful leader.
Even after her assassination when the emotions were at the peak, PPP only managed to bag 124 seats.
Future election strategy would be:
-Bring out Bilawal to gain sympathy for a child who lost his mother
-Bilawal will say my father was victimized
Of course there would be some secret negotiations, deals, and agreements. Only after confirmation and guarantee from international players any change will come.
End result= No change for people, power remains in the hands of same people to ensure global interests are protected.
Raza76
Member
Absolutely agree. No change for people.
I also ask the people, who unnecessary keep on defending Zardari. Does anyone believe(holding his conscience accountable), that Zardari has the character / integrity we can be proud of?
Aik oor SaziSssh....lolzz
Zardari said 'people party ko sindh province tak limited kia ja rha hay'.
http://www.dailypak.com/emergency/mainnews-24-12-09%20(7).html
Few days ago his own party member and Sindh Governer Syed Qaim Ali Sha has given this statement 'Zardari is son of Sindh'.
zeshaan
Member
Daikhiay,Gaddaran e watan,(mulk kay wafadar naheen shakhseatoon kay wafadar)lagta hay keh faisal abad main bhee kisi shaheed ka mazar bananay ka mansooba hay inka.
Mir sadiq Aur Mir jafar ki aulad.
I am stunned to see hatred of people to Zardari. Aray bhai apna khun kion jalatay ho. Have you ever heard the hadith in Which Holy Prophet asks Sahaba Muphlis kon hay. It is a long hatith you can ask from any religious scholar of your liking. One portion of that hadith applies to people like you. Anybody who says gheebat or harsh words to other will have give his good deeds (Nekian) to that person on the day of judgement. At another occassion people asked that if the matter is true then still it is gheebat. Holy Prophet said yes if it is not true then it is buhtan that is worse than gheebat.
Please think about it and don't loose your precious good deeds in hatred of someone like Zardari.
toamin
member
my dear zardari supporter please note that accountability and criticism of a public ruler is not gheebat, you may check with any scholar of your liking.
A public figure can be criticized, condemned and accounted for like Abu Jahl (what was his real name?) Abu Lahab?
Please differentiate between a common man and a public ruler.
Raza76
Member
@Pakistani47
yar answer tu dosrya thread wala hi repeat ker raha haon but I have a question for you.
DO YOU HONESTLY THINK KEH ZARADARI KOI KABIL E TAREEF, KABIL E TAKLEED, AUR AISAY KIRDAR KA SHAKHAS HA KEH AAP CHAHIAN GAY KEH HER PAKISTANI AUR MUSILM AISA HI HO?
Banki aap ki post ka asnwer below ha
@pakistani47
Masala tu aap an khoob bataya ha. Now let us how it is taken by the Ulama themselves. Frist of all, a charage which may astry the general people if remain untold, is infact a Faraz e kifaya to be told.
By your wrong definition, every book of history is nothing but gheebat o bohtan ki dastan. Further more, Isma e Rijal (the branch of knowledge to discuss the charcter of the peopel for the authentication of Hadith) tu ha hi sirf aur sirf gheebat. Aur gheebat bhi kin logon ki, jo mer chukay hain aur apna difa bhi nahi ker saktay. ALLAH ALLAH.. Paposh main laga di kiran aaftab ki: jo baat ki khuda ki kaasam la jawab ki...
Hazoor, Zaradari sahib hamaray mahboob leadre, hamray dil ho jaan aun per kurban.. aunchi shaan ha aunki.. aur yah shaan aun kay apnay kartoton se hi bani ha mushallah.. Woh tu in ilzam tarashon ku munh toor jawab de saktay hain.. AAJ HI HATH KHERAY KER DAIN, JAISAY UMER BIN ABDUL AZIZ NA KIYA THAY(RA), sab kuch jama kerwain khazanay main, aur ker dain ailan keh siwaya kapron kay meray pass kuch nahi.. tu yah munh zoor zubain kasaid likhain gi aun ki shaan main..
Janab.. zarorat logon kay ilzamant ki nahi, aun kay amal ki ha.
I am not zardari supporter either but the thing is I don't know the reason of targeting one person. By targeting in such a crazy manner you are creating his supporters. Others are also not farishaz.
There are several other public figures. Why they are not being targetted like that. If you think that your views are not biased honestly then you are perfectly right. But if your views are biased then you are just expressing your prejudice nothing else.
I am not Alim so I can not argue on religious matter whatever I knew told you sincerely. Now it is upto you that how you take it.
zingaro
Member
Shahzad sahib .. well you are getting unfair here. Perhaps you have not seen all threads in this forum. To me everyone must be criticized irrespect of his or her political belonging, if he or she is found doing corruption or defending corruption. Anyhow if you feel that only Zardari is being targetted, the reason is not us but Zardari himself as he is doing every possible thing to get such "respect". CJ was right to say
Kuj shehar dey log vi zaalam san
Kuj saanon marn da shauq vi si
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