Sindh & Pukhtoon Khwa are responsible for Shortage of Electricity in Pakistan

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Sindh & Pukhtoon Khwa are responsible for Shortage of Electricity in Pakistan

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M.AKRAM
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Sindh & Pukhtoon Khwa are responsible for Shortage of Electricity and water in Pakistan.
Disease of Provincialism in Politicians of Pukhtoon Khwa and Sindh is mainly responsible for power shortage mayhem and the resultant chaos in the society due to tormenting blackouts and long power outrages.
Importance of Electricity Versus Wastage of Water for Feudals.
Why opposition on generation of electricity by Kalabagh Dam in which no water is wasted but provide option of safe storage of water for future use. Electricity is the need of each and every minute and moment of human life, people can not tolerate outage of electricity for one hour while agriculture land can tolerate need of water even many weeks, but why importance to agriculture of few feudals and no importance to electricity which is the need of each and every citizens
• Children weeps in the night due to high temperature and mosquitoes bite due to outage of electricity,
• Students can not study in night due to outage of electricity.
• Industry can not run without electricity.
• Machinery can not run without electricity.
• Surgeons can not operate without electricity.
• A patient on life machine can not survive without electricity.
• Even in agriculture can not use Tubewell without electricity.
• Fertilizer can not be manufactured without electricity.
• Pesticide can not be manufactured without electricity.
• Sugar Mills,Cotton Mills,Flour Mills,Rice Mills can not run without electricity.
Above points clearly indicates that use of water for generation of electricity is 1000 times better than wastage of water on land or in sea for few feudals, because water wasted in land or sea is not recoverable but water use for generation of electricity in Kalabagh Dam will be available for use for agriculture and Industry as it was suitable before generation of electricity and there will be no wastage of water.

Sindh,Balochistan and Frontier are against Kalabagh Dam.
Because as per Sindh LOGIC Thar Coal is better than Kalabagh as Kalabagh will emmit BLACK SMOKE and Thar Coal will emmit fresh air full of Oxygen.
And as per Balouchistan Vision GAS and coal extracted from Balouchistan are one of the most clean source of energy and Kalabagh will pollute air and land resouces and people will drown in Kalabagh and no one is dying in the coal caves of Balochistan.
And as per Frontier wisdom Royalty of Tarballa is so important that Pakistan can be broken for that but Kalabgh dam is not good looking as it is in Punjab.
All provinces want Provincial autonomy but Punjab should open or close its canals , IIRIGATE ITS LAND AND construct Dams as per desire of other provinces and after asking from
other provinces Because it is necessary for unity and prosperity of Pakistan as when there will be no agriculture,no electricity and no water then Pakistan will be more united and more prosperous.
From all above points it is clear that PUKHTOON KHWA and Sindh who are opposing the generation of electricity and preservation and safe storage of water in Kalabagh dam are criminals of humanity as well as of World.

Written By:
M.Akram.

Posted 7 months ago on 03 Oct 2011 14:12 #
sochopakistani
Member

Very very important subject but written in negative tone. We need to fix the problem and not blame. As country we need to take decision in the best interest of country and not province. Agricultural products coming from Punjab are also available for entire country and energy generated by other provinces is shared by Punjab.
If technically, this project is feasible must be implemented and people with wrong intentions are needed to be dealt on treason charges.

Posted 7 months ago on 03 Oct 2011 16:29 #
Talash
Member

Just wait dear.Kalabagh Dam will be builted nobody can stop it.

Posted 7 months ago on 03 Oct 2011 16:49 #
quaidkamazaar
Member

Akram saahab,

solution clear terms main dijiye...
blame game se kuch nahin hoga
you have great thoughts.

Posted 7 months ago on 03 Oct 2011 21:22 #
M.AKRAM
Member

At present most cheap source of energy in Pakistan is from river's dams while energy from coal and oil is expensive and polluted while on large scale energy production from solar and wind sources is not feasible.

Posted 7 months ago on 04 Oct 2011 15:47 #
ChangeIK
Blocked

Yes, Kala Bagh dam should be built, but it is not the ordinary Sindhis or Pakhtoons who are a hurdle to it, I believe. It is the corrupt political leaderships they have, which exploits them for their ugly ends.

Posted 7 months ago on 04 Oct 2011 15:53 #
M.AKRAM
Member

Kalabagh Dam is a need of People of South Punjab and New Seraiki Province, because it will provide water and control of floods in seraiki Belt.

Posted 7 months ago on 07 Oct 2011 13:29 #
M.AKRAM
Member

Disease of provincialism and ethnocentrism in Pakistan has become a nuisance and main resistance and hurdle in the progress and development of Pakistan.

Posted 7 months ago on 14 Oct 2011 7:31 #
M.AKRAM
Member

Sind:
Some facts about this province are:
Before floods politicians of Sind used to say that there is no water in the system for Kalabagh Dam, and now after floods they are saying there was flood of 3.0 Million Acre feet, therefore Kalabagh Dam having capacity of 1.0 million Acre feet was unable to stop flood, from such hypocrisy every one can sense the effects of disease of provincialism, while infect even storage of just ½ million acre feet in Kalabagh Dam was more than enough to break the peak of flood, it was the super flood which was required to control and not that of normal flood, as now Kalabagh Dam is not existing people should face such disasters without any mercy in coming years also.
Hypocrisy and hegemony of Politicians of Sind is also obvious from following facts
Sind producing more crops each year with more consumption of water at the same time politicians making propaganda that Punjab is stealing water.
Sind producing rice crop in most of its arid and barren areas with no rain fall but still there is shortage of water and making propaganda that Punjab is stealing water.
Sind increasing irrigated land near coastal area in Badin and at the same time making propaganda that there is intrusion of sea in Badin as Punjab is stealing water.
Sind wasting one crore acre feet of water in sea but still there is shortage of water and making propaganda that Punjab is stealing water.
Sind opposing any project on River Indus like Kalabagh Dam and any other project but still demanding more water.
According to politicians of this province there is shortage of water for Chasma Jehlum Link Canal, For Kalabagh Dam, for Thal Canal, and as a whole For Punjab,
but there is lot of water to waste in Arabian sea at Thatta and Badin,
There is lot of water to grow rice in the Larkana so much that ruins of Moen Jo Daro are suffering from problem of water logging, the problem from which these ruins have not suffered during last 4500 years.
There is lot of Indus water to waste in Manchar Lake, Kurlee Lake so much that now there is need to waste the water of these lakes in sea.
There is lot of water to sink coastal areas of Badin and Thatta under Indus water.
There is lot of water so much that we are pouring sweet water on saline Mangrove plants of sea.
In present scenario according to Sind polticians it is not justified to use water for generation of electricity and preservation of water for future use and prevention of floods by building Kalabagh Dam, but it is justified to waste about one million acre feet water in the sea and that is also not from its share but from the share of other provinces so that people of Punjab could be thrown in poverty and darkness due to shortage of water and electricity.Sind will not allow other provinces of Pakistan to take one bucket of water and will not allow to grow one straw of grass, but will like to waste water in the sea as fishes of sea are very chronically thirsty.
The credit stands with Sind that despite obtaining ample water and ample crops it’s always ready to victimize and malign Punjab, Kalabagh Dam, Thal Canal, and Chasma Jehlum canal, it’s making good use of politics of balckmailing and water.
Preservation and storage of water in Kalabagh Dam will increase agriculture land,generation of electricity ,and will prevent wastage of sweet water and fertile sand in the sea .
Advanced nations of the world are recycling and treating drain water for reuse while politician and Government of Sind is wasting and polluting sweet water into the sea.
USA and India have large number of rivers and fresh water reservoirs but instead of wasting their water in sea they are using saline water of sea for agriculture and other purposes but we Pakistanies have just one river and even then we are wasting that one by the foolish politicians and Government of Sind.
Israel and Saudi Arabia are using water of Sea by desalination for their use so much that sea is drying and drying day by day but we Pakistanis are wasting our sweet water into sea what a unique type of crime and foolish act.
Only by taking out water from sea can stop sea intrusion and by discarding more and more sweet water into sea will aggravate the problem of so called sea intrusion.

Government of Pakistan is leaving no stone unturned for sinking delta dwellers people of Bangladesh and Island dweller people of Maldives under sea by wasting about 10 Million Acres feet water of River Indus from the catchments area of whole of Pakistan in the sea and is not preserving and storing that water in dams like Kalabagh and Basha, on one side people of Pakistan are suffering from acute wastage of water and electricity and on other side Government is wasting sweet water in the sea which is not only causing sea rise and erosion of coastal land for whole of subcontinent, including Bangladesh and Maldives but is also harmful for saline habitat fishes and saline and sea plants like Mangroves
On one side there is shortage of water in Pakistan on other side in Sind there is wastage of water,cultivation of crops such as rice,sugar can and banana which are highly dependent on water and at the same time demanding wastage of water in sea and objecting even on preservation of water in Kalabagh, on use of water for agriculture in Punjab, if there is shortage of water then why Sind is cultivating rice,bannana and sugarcane which are highly water dependent, if Punjab is not giving water then from where the water of Kulree ,Mancahr lakes have arrived, if Punjab is not giving water then how from Larkana to Thatta area is suffering from problem of water logging.
Sind wants Punjab to obey its desire for wastage of water as it is mentioned in 1991 water agreement, Punjab Should stop its people living along river Indus from Kalabagh to Sadiqabad not to use water for irrigation because Provincialism is more important than Humanity.

Posted 7 months ago on 15 Oct 2011 13:37 #
M.AKRAM
Member

At present is being ruled by leaders of these two provinces and Pakistan has reached to the point of destruction, as it was reached in the era of Bhutto and Yahya,both belonging from the same provinces.

Posted 6 months ago on 19 Nov 2011 16:02 #
sochopakistani
Member

@M.Akram
Must admit whatever facts/figures you have mentioned, might be true. However Pls include Politician from Punjab also as "Raja loadshedding" belongs to Punjab. He and all PPP politicians from punjab should have resigned if he was pressurized.
And you know, without support of Punjab, no government can survive, hence pls share the blame with Politicians from Punjab and add opportunism with provincialism.

Posted 6 months ago on 19 Nov 2011 16:19 #
sochopakistani
Member

Pakistani establishment if decides, can build nuclear bomb despite of opposition from entire world. Can build JF-17 thunder, Al Khalid Tank, lethal Missiles, defeat USSR, can trouble India with proxy wars, keep politician dancing on their tunes. Its surprising it cant build a very important and strategic dam. People of Sind are so innocent that they dance on topi and Ajrak

Posted 6 months ago on 19 Nov 2011 16:24 #
KHAN_Sahib
Member

Akram Sahib. You forgot your morning pills again?

Posted 6 months ago on 19 Nov 2011 17:46 #
siddiqi73
Member

@sochopakistani,

The people of Karachi are equally innocent to attend a rally titled "Tehreek-e-Namoos a Zardari" which was held by MQM recently. Any thoughts?

Posted 6 months ago on 19 Nov 2011 18:10 #
sochopakistani
Member

@Siddiqi,
Bhai, pls stick to the topic. Mr.Akram have done lots of research. For other topic, please come to relevant thread.

Posted 6 months ago on 20 Nov 2011 14:26 #
mariabashir
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Posted 6 months ago on 20 Nov 2011 14:50 #
sochopakistani
Member

@Maria bb,
I cant see your comments on the topic.

Posted 6 months ago on 20 Nov 2011 16:24 #
M.AKRAM
Member

If the same trend of shortage of electricity and increasing cost of gas,oil and electricity will persist in Pakistan Then citizens of Pakistan wil be in great crisis, There is need to get rid of these politicians such as ANP,MQM and PPP from Sindh and Surhad who are suffering from disease of ethnocentrism and Provincialism, and royalty of Tarbela Dam in Surhad and royalty of gas and oil fields of Sindh should be given to only those districts in which these resources are situated instead of giving to Provincial government.

Posted 6 months ago on 21 Nov 2011 8:02 #
sweettruth
Member

Gen Zia is responsible for all the plight ordinary Pakistanis face today. Full Stop.

Posted 6 months ago on 21 Nov 2011 10:36 #
sochopakistani
Member

@Is it coincidence or genetic issue, people from Punjab believe and behave if they are the muslims, pakistanis and all other are their "Zarkharid ghulam". This fascist misbehavior will be resisted to the core.....

Posted 6 months ago on 21 Nov 2011 17:07 #
pakistani47
Member

Most of the gas is produced in Sindh and Baluchistan that is used to generate cheap electricity. Most of the cheap hydel power is produced in KPK. So how they are responsible for shortage. Please inform about the cheap electricity production share of Punjab.

Posted 6 months ago on 21 Nov 2011 17:58 #
pakistani47
Member

Thermal generation through furnace oil and petrol is not considered cheap electricity. Moreover it is in no way friendship with Pakistan to revive dead issue of Kalabagh.

Our internal dynamics and geopolitical situation are in no way suitable for kicking up a row on such dead issue.

Posted 6 months ago on 21 Nov 2011 18:02 #
sochopakistani
Member

@Mr.Akram, also mentioned "Electricity from coal will not be clean and economical." You need to be enemy of pakistan to write such statement. For your info, modern technique of "gassifications" of coal is much more economical and cleaner than coal mining. Dr.Samar mubrak is already working on one Pilot project.

Posted 6 months ago on 21 Nov 2011 18:10 #
pakistani47
Member

So dear Socho all the propoganda is wrong.

We just need political will and sincere people to accomplish projects like Thar coal, Jhimpeer wind corridor and small hydel projects in AZK and KPK. In this we can generate 1000s of MW very cheaply and then we can reduce dependance on furnace oil that will help us in reducing the price of electricity.

Just find sincere people. Almighy Allah has given us everything.

Posted 6 months ago on 21 Nov 2011 18:37 #
outspokenloud
Blocked

Sweettruth,
"Gen Zia is responsible for all the plight ordinary Pakistanis face today. Full Stop."

you are asolutely right & gen Zia biggest evil & his legacy is N$ & PML-N

Posted 6 months ago on 21 Nov 2011 18:54 #
M.AKRAM
Member

The Effects of Coal on the Environment.
Coal as a source of energy is probably the most environmentally damaging of
all the traditional sources of energy.
• One must keep in mind that a typical power coal plant generates 3 million tons of CO2 or 17 tons of carbon per megawatt and draws about 2.3 billion gallons of water per annum from nearby source while on land coal produces mercury which not only renders water useless for human consumption but also for irrigation purpose as well.

• “Coal Power in a Warming World” by Barbara Freese et al, published by the Union of Concerned Scientists in October 2008 states that “The underground mining of coal is a dangerous profession, and underground and surface mining are both highly damaging to landscapes, water supplies, and ecosystems”.

• The Natural Resources Defense Council paper entitled “Coal in a Changing Climate”, issued in February 2007 claims that “Coal mining—and particularly surface or strip mining—poses one of the most significant threats to terrestrial habitats in the United States.”

• Figures from “Key World Energy Statistics: 2008″ show that coal is responsible for 42% of the world’s carbon dioxide emissions.

• “Coal in a Changing Climate” shows that coal produces large amounts of airborne toxic chemicals, including sulfur dioxide, mercury, nitrous oxides, arsenic and lead.

• Coal is a highly polluting energy source. It emits much more carbon per unit of energy than oil, and natural gas. CO2 represents the major portion of greenhouse gases. It is, therefore, one of the leading contributors to climate change.

• From mine to sky, from extraction to combustion — coal pollutes every step of the way. The huge environmental and social costs associated with coal usage make it an expensive option for developing countries.

• Coal mining is responsible for acid drainage from coal mines, polluting rivers and streams, to the release of mercury and other toxins when it is burned, as well as climate-destroying gases and fine particulates that wreak havoc on human health, COAL is unquestionably, a DIRTY BUSINESS.

Posted 6 months ago on 22 Nov 2011 5:12 #
M.AKRAM
Member

Tarbela Dam was constructed in Surhad by selling three rivers of Punjab to India by Ayub and Bhutto.More over six districts on which Surhad is composed were the districts of Punjab.
Gas and oil reserves in Sindh area, are the gift of nature due to river indus coming from Kashmir and Punjab towards Sindh and not due to blessing of any ethnic group or provincialism.

Posted 6 months ago on 22 Nov 2011 5:18 #
sochopakistani
Member

@MAkram, have you sworn not to be reasonable? without reading the argument, you keep copying and pasting.

Posted 6 months ago on 22 Nov 2011 16:49 #
M.AKRAM
Member

Sochopakistani. Your point that.
"For your info, modern technique of "gassifications" of coal is much more economical and cleaner than coal mining. Dr.Samar mubrak is already working on one Pilot project."

Your this point may be termed as non scientific, as at present even in the most adavanced space shuttle, there is no technology to control pollution of fuel,for your information and for Dr.Samar Mubarak Mund information it is much more difficult to control gases as compared to liquid and solids,Samar Mubarak should first control the contamination and pollution and high radiation level from Chasma nuclear plant, he is not able to even control liquid fuel leakage in Kanup Karcahi plant and is trying to make money by fooling people that by gasification he will control pollution, please note it is only gaseous state when any material become much more reactive and uncontrolable. you should remember the accident of union carbide in Bhopal where gases were released and thousands of people were killed.Simply Dr.Samar don't have any education of medical and environmental hazards of air pollution by coal.

If any such technology exist in world then why USA,China are not using that.Why daily so many chinese deaths are going on in coal mines.
Are we have become more advanced than China and USA.

Posted 6 months ago on 23 Nov 2011 8:10 #
KHAN_Sahib
Member

MR Akram:

Quote"six districts on which Surhad is composed were the districts of Punjab"

This is not SURHAD!!!!!!! You may be BLIND in your hatred for Khyber-Pakhtunkwa but may I remind you that the name of the aforementioned province has been changed and you should not call it "Sarhad: in your bias posts.

@ndly, don't twist fatcs.... If you dig deep in the past, Even Attock, Mianwali is also part of Khyber= Pakshtunkwa. Punjab has no contribution towards oil, gas, coal or hydral power production but has enjoyed his lion's share since 1947.

Thats why we been proposing that Punjab should be divided into smaller units among other provinces so that every unit has equal share.

Posted 6 months ago on 23 Nov 2011 9:37 #
M.AKRAM
Member

Khan Sahib ,biased are those who try to imposed their will on others,I have right to give any name to any place I can call Frontier,Sarhad,Khyber,PukhtoonKhwa,Peshawer or Khyber and Hazara,I can Call to Sindh AS Mehran or as lower Sindh, to Karcahi as Kalachi.I can call punjab as Multan,Lahore,or Seraikistan or as upper Sindh, so please dont try to force other your will on others, I can call these provinces or areas with much more beautiful names as compared to their present names.

Posted 6 months ago on 23 Nov 2011 11:34 #
M.AKRAM
Member

Khan Sahib ,biased are those who try to imposed their will on others,I have right to give any name to any place I can call Frontier,Sarhad,Khyber,PukhtoonKhwa,Peshawer or Khyber and Hazara,I can Call to Sindh AS Mehran or as lower Sindh, to Karcahi as Kalachi.I can call punjab as Multan,Lahore,or Seraikistan or as upper Sindh, so please dont try to force other your will on others, I can call these provinces or areas with much more beautiful names as compared to their present names.

Posted 6 months ago on 23 Nov 2011 11:35 #
KHAN_Sahib
Member

Akram Sahib!

Don't divert the topic!

You are biased, racist, ignorant and try to twist the facts all the time. Why do u always see faults in Sindhi's, Pashtuns and Urdu Speakers all the time? Your threads is almost always one side, biased and against the other ethnic groups of Pakistan!

Posted 6 months ago on 23 Nov 2011 12:41 #
M.AKRAM
Member

Khan Sahib truth is always bitter.
Is it not fact that Bhutto (Sindh) and Yahya (Surhad) were responsible for genocide of Bengalese , during this both of them never consulted any one from Bengal and Punjab, the largest provinces of Pakistan.
Is it not fact that Bhutto (Sindh) and Ayoub (Surhad) sold three rivers of Punjab.
Is it not fact that Benazir(Sindh) and Wali Khan(Surhad) supported occupation of Afghanistan by Soviet union.
Is it not fact that Sindh and Surhad interfered in Punjab and made opposition to Kalabagh Dam and thus violated and victimized its soverignity.
Is it not fact that Zardari (Sindh) and Ghafar Khan (Surhad) are traitors of Pakistan.

Posted 6 months ago on 23 Nov 2011 14:40 #
sochopakistani
Member

@Akram Sahib,
Baat polution sey ziada trust ki hey. Nobody trust Punjabis in Pakistan for obvious reasons...

Posted 6 months ago on 23 Nov 2011 16:47 #
M.AKRAM
Member

Rural Sindh and biased politicians of Pukhtoon khwa by producing hurdles against Kalabagh dam and by saying that electricity should be produced just from Tarbella and environment polluting thar coal so that money can be earned by royalty of these sources are responsible for shortage of electricity in Pakistan.

Posted 6 months ago on 24 Nov 2011 8:34 #