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Some Funny stuff " Sufi with a Twist"

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  1. NNL
    member

    Why can't Muslims be gay and proud?

    Theologian Amanullah De Sondy wants Islam to tolerate homosexuality again, just as it did generations ago

    http://entertainment.timesonline.co....ffset=0&page=1

    and this is his daleel:

    De Sondy knows his conservative opponents will use one particular story, which appears in both the Koran and the Bible, to justify oppression. This is when God sends angels to destroy the sinful inhabitants of Sodom.

    “It is often said to illustrate God’s disappproval of homosexuality. But on closer inspection it is really about his disapproval of the rape of young boys that was happening in the place. There is a big difference.”

    Intolerance is not necessarily part of Muslim tradition, De Sondy argues. Islamic cultures are diverse and, historically, there are examples of people living openly in same-sex relationships. He blames conservative political Islam, spread by the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and the Saudi Wahhabi sect, for creating a puritanism which limits sexual freedom and demands the subjugation of women.

    "In the 16th-century Punjab, there lived a Sufi \ saint and poet called Shah Hussain who is greatly venerated. He fell in love with a Hindu boy. They lived together and are buried side by side in the same tomb. Pilgrims come to the tomb and shrine in Lahore district even today, but some people want to rewrite history, saying the boy was in fact a girl.”
    He also points to the presence of “antinomian Sufis in the Indian subcontinent — men who have pierced ears and dance in women’s clothing”.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 12:37 #
  2. The great Persian Poet Sheikh Saadi, also had a soft corner for young and beautiful lads.
    Read Gulsitan and Bostan, the two master pieces from this great poet.
    ba khal-i hindooash bakhsham samarqand-o-bokhara ra

    In Persian poetry, Mahaboob always is a male.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 13:15 #
  3. Sahnaz
    Member

    well why u people hate homosexsual people. they must hv same right as hetrosexsual. it is nt a disease to be homosexsual. they r born like this and say in a wrong body. hvnt u seen so many boys behave like girls and i think u r familiar with tomboys.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 13:18 #
  4. NNL
    member

    And what have they proved so far ?

    start giving me benefits of Homosexuality and explain to me how it is not a depravity ?

    Born like this ? explain ?

    Enuchs are not homosexuals please do remember that

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 13:25 #
  5. shahzad1924
    member

    in my opinion, homos are the scum of the earth.

    really, they are a disgrace to the human race.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 13:28 #
  6. misalligned
    Member

    My dear NNL

    Many scholars did not slept and worked 24/7 and they coined a term KALA ANGREEZ, you know for whom?

    so leave KALA ANGREEZ at their own. What they think is normal, i pray they dont find something like this in their own family and interestingly they dont even want to have this in their family. If you tell them whether they like this phenomenon for their family then they will cry for years that why you have called us like this.

    This is the reason why we dont call it normal, because even its supporters hate to have such people in their family.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 13:32 #
  7. khurram Zaman
    Member

    Ravian come with ur proof abt Sheikh Saadi.....pls

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 13:55 #
  8. talalkhan
    Member

    I think Shahzad1924 has rightly summarized it and I agree with him.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 13:56 #
  9. zia m
    Member

    I consider the biblical story in Genesis another attempt by the Hebres to demonise their enemies Moabites and Ammonites.

    Gen. 19, when God plans to overturn and destroy the five cities of the plain, he sends angels to the city of Sodom where they meet Lot at the city gates. Lot seems greatly concerned that the angels should spend the night in his house but the angels insist they wish to spend the night in the city street. Lot puts a great deal of pressure on them and eventually convinces them. However all the people of Sodom surround Lot's house with intent to "know" (traditionally interpreted as carnal knowledge) the angels (19:5). Lot offers the men his daughters instead, whom he says are virgins (19:8), but the men were not interested.

    So,according to the story Lot (Lut) a prophet of wisdom offers his virgin daughter for gang rape.The story does not make any sense.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 14:12 #
  10. khurram Zaman
    Member

    zia m,

    The Quranic ayat so far u provided is fake.If u want answer pls requote ur reference to ayats clearly mentioned the ayat number,soora and chapter number...
    Ill refernces need no answer..........

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 14:36 #
  11. misalligned
    Member

    zia m

    everyone who haves a little knowledge of Quran knows that Haz. Lot did not offered HIS OWN daughters but he asked them to go to the women of his tribe which are also like daughters to him. please instead of just plain criticizing read some quran first.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 14:42 #
  12. NNL
    member

    No I think he is Quoting the book of Genesis.

    Not Quran cos Surah 19 is Surah Maryam and the discussion of Quam-e-Lut is in Surah Hud Surah no 11

    Yup he is quoting Genesis
    http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=KjvGene.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=19&division=div1

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 14:47 #
  13. chechen
    Member

    Gay parade has become regular feature in most cities of the world. There was one recently in Bombay, patronised by Bollywood actors. Have any one seen this in Karachi or Islamabad?

    It’s a procession of cars, decorated floats, dancers, near-naked hijras and brainwashed heterosexuals who are proud to be part of a sin so severe that it caused the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.

    With upto 30 million Americans in the category of gays and lesbians, their days are numbered too. Folks, Titanic is surely sinking. Don't cling to it.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 16:29 #
  14. talalkhan
    Member

    I think chechen is absolutely right.Any one who violates the laws of nature will perish,as history of the world shows.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Aug 2009 17:46 #

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