Tahirul Qadri Canadian citizen..Defending Americans and NATO in NY Speach..

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Tahirul Qadri Canadian citizen..Defending Americans and NATO in NY Speach..

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SufiSoul
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http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/may2011-daily/30-05-2011/main4.htm...

American Intelligencia were present as groups in the speech..
What a shame.....

Posted 12 months ago on 30 May 2011 8:53 #
hariskhan
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Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

This guy is proving to be a "LANTI" "traitor".

Before today, he was traitor. Now, he's making decisions, taking actions by which he's turning into one of the worst traitors of Muslims.

Posted 12 months ago on 30 May 2011 8:59 #
choosy
Member

yeh kiya bhai ,
yeh tou mein post kar chuka hoon.
mein ne religion mein dala tha religion bar mein.
tou kiya kisi ko nazar hi nahi aaya?

Posted 12 months ago on 30 May 2011 9:47 #
choosy
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http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/tahir-ul-qadri-sahib-ka-fatwa-amerikiyon-kay-haq-mein

mein ne 2 ghuntay pehlay initaite kiya aur sufisoul ne aik ghuntay pehlay.
mera religion and faith mein hay jo main page pe visible nahi hota .

inhon ne ghalat category mein dala, magar visible hay.
ab mein kiya karon?
mods,
mera wala thread close kar dejiye plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Posted 12 months ago on 30 May 2011 10:43 #
Beenai
Moderator

thread closed as requested by the thread initiator himself.

Posted 12 months ago on 30 May 2011 10:46 #
shafiq12
member

Haris Khan...

Are your curses part of Islam?...... Doesn't it mean, i am defending Qadri.....

Posted 12 months ago on 30 May 2011 11:09 #
choosy
Member

wohh tou amerika ki colony mein beth kay america ki pasand ka fatwa jari kar rahay hain.

Posted 12 months ago on 30 May 2011 11:12 #
scandinavian
Member

He has worked for many. Once upon a time he was the buddy of NS and then he wanted more and became a buddy of himself, and now he is the buddy of someone ready to pay him for his "fatwa". IMO he is much worse than yellow journalists since he is dragging religion into his dirty work.

That's why I like to call him Tahir-ul-Padri.

Posted 12 months ago on 30 May 2011 11:36 #
drgulkhan
Member

He is basically saying that one cannot attack diplomats and others who are here on invitation of ur governement....

Whats wrong with that?

Posted 12 months ago on 30 May 2011 14:12 #
choosy
Member

jee yah matlub nahi nikal raha.
aap zara ghour se parhein ,matlub hay kay un pe sirf iss surat mein hamla karein agar wohh aap ki jaan leeny kay dar pe hoon.
jiasay American attackers hum se Chuppan Chupai bhi khelnay aatay hoon .
zahir hay marnay aatay hain na.

Posted 12 months ago on 30 May 2011 14:25 #
drgulkhan
Member

@ choosy...i am not pro american or tahir ul qadri...

but i do not think american diplomats , buisnesmenn or military personell who are here legally for some purpose are legitimate targets....

so guys are saying the american ingenieurs at mehran base were legitimate target?

Posted 12 months ago on 30 May 2011 14:37 #
toamin
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یہی جعلی پیر، گدی نشین، و سجادہ نشین برطانوی راج کے صدیوں سہارا بنے رہے اور یہی آج بھی ان کا سہارا بنتے ہیں، جہاں اشارہ ملتا ہے ادھر ماتھا رگڑنا شروع کر دیتے ہیں

تاریخ میں انہوں نے کب مزاحمت کی؟

Posted 12 months ago on 30 May 2011 15:13 #
Dusky
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@drgulkhan: He is saying "you can not attack any one not attacking you irrespective of their status in Pakistan, only those who are visibly classified as enemy are fair game".

By his logic, people like RD or any CIA/RAW/Black Water have immunity as they are not attacking openly rather working in disguise of NGO's, foreign workers or consulate workers.
No wonder US intelligence people were at the ceremony and he deliberately address in english to please his true master.

Posted 12 months ago on 31 May 2011 3:13 #
banjarbayabaan
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میں یہ تو نہیں جانتا کہ یہ کون ہے لیکن کچھ لوگ کہتے ہیں کہ طاہر القادری ہے.
کیا آپ میں سے کوئی صاحب بتا سکتا ہے کہ اس ویڈیو میں واقعی طاہر القادری ہے یا کوئی اور ہے؟

Posted 12 months ago on 31 May 2011 3:27 #
utopia
Member

I hope some one takes notice of him !!!...and just do him for once and all.... as he is craving for it !!!

Posted 12 months ago on 31 May 2011 4:20 #
toamin
member

@0:56 Tahir's face can be recognized

Posted 12 months ago on 31 May 2011 7:05 #
alirazaster
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i m not pro qadri either
but i think its not right to kill any westerner just because he/she is from west.... killing every gora isnt right... we cant do it without prooving any crime that is worthy of him/her being killed!
and americans actually have their foothold in afghanistan..... why dont the suicide fanatics go there and kill american army there????? why do they instead blast places of worship here in Pakistan, killing pakistanis and muslims only?????

mumtaz qadri, a member of punjab elite force killed salman taseer for no crime..... but no policeman of the lahore thana shot Ramond Davis dead for killing 3 innocent pakistanis.... WHY?????????

i thik according to qadri's statement, ramond davis is worthy of being killed because he openly attacked and killed innocent pakistanis....
and most importantly, i dont see that he is actually defending the usa..... actually, he's blaming the local rulers who have given usa enough liberty to do whatever they want to do with pakistanis..... and rightly so...

Posted 12 months ago on 31 May 2011 10:17 #
utopia
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"i m not pro qadri either"

and then

"kill any westerner just because he/she is from west."

and

"punjab elite force killed salman taseer for no crime"

So you think people should just consider you naive?

And Which tourist from west is coming to pakistan ?which world you are living in? Last time I checked those 700( plus in thousands more) visa holders weren't exactly on 'tourism'? If you think so then i cant say much except that you are naive which is laughable.

Salmeen taseer got what is called natural justice.It doesn't have to be exaclty that allegation which got him killed.There were many many more in the bag.I just hope others in the line get the justice even if its dark, the same way benazir got.The list is just huge!

And btw why I see most of the house negros attaching 'syed' with their names? Are they Semitic in origin? If so then i can understand but then again why Syed Musharraf, syed talat,syed saleem shahzad, syed gilani...etc..etc. all prove(d) to be the progeny of dog walkers of angraiz or even seculars than the progeny of a prophet? I just can not decipher it.

Even then it takes an extreme brain contraption to actually have that subservient mentality.Over that they think people wont even notice it where they actually are coming from.

Such 'syeds' need to Come out of self delusional bubble before someone else bursts it and forces them to do so with the only difference that then it might be too late.

Posted 12 months ago on 01 Jun 2011 5:42 #
alirazaster
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utopia
you think i m naive, and you consider yourself very smart? and you think salman taseer and benazir's killing is some natural justice? if you get killed in taget killing, would you deem that as natural justice too?

and did i say that those westerners are here for tourism?
not all of them are here for some conspiratorial or ill-intentioned mission.... and therefore, you can not justify killing every westerner just because he/she is a gora!

salman taseer did not commit the crime which he was killed for, and that too in an unislamic way! islam doesnt allow people to take law in their hands. criticizing a man made law, which is supposedly a divine law, but based on human interpretations is not blasphemy.

and what exactly is your point about syeds????
being syed isnt doesnt certify anyone to be a pako pakeeza person... being the progeny of prophet alone does not necessaily means that one is a good person...
and why target the so called syeds and the not so good syeds alone? all muslims need "to come out of self delusional bubble before someone else bursts it and forces them to do so with the only difference that then it might be too late."

Posted 12 months ago on 01 Jun 2011 11:31 #
choosy
Member

TQ kay is fatway pe likha hay:

Made in USA.

Allah mauf karay ,aisay logo ne mazhab ko badnaam kar rakha hay.

Posted 12 months ago on 01 Jun 2011 11:39 #
banjarbayabaan
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پاکستان میں لوگ کہتے ہیں کہ طاہر القادری کوآخری نبی حضرت محمد کی زیارت ہو چکی ہے اس لئے جو علامہ کینیڈا کے خلاف بات کرے گا وہ گستاخ رسول ہے.
خدا اسلام اور پاکستان کو ایسے علامہ کے شر سے محفوظ رکھے. آمین

Posted 12 months ago on 01 Jun 2011 11:45 #
choosy
Member

humaray piyaray Nabi Hazrat Mohammad (Peace be upon him)ka naam TQ kay sath leena bhi ghalat hay.

Posted 12 months ago on 01 Jun 2011 11:55 #
utopia
Member

"you think i m naive" & "you think salman taseer and benazir's killing is some natural justice? "

Yes!

"if you get killed in taget killing, would you deem that as natural justice too?"

Well i didn't cause misery to the millions of people. I didnt rob them of their livelihood.I am not ruling any territory while these leechers were .So no it wont be natural justice.

"therefore, you can not justify killing every westerner just because he/she is a gora!"

Well not any is coming for tourism thats my point and if they are not tourist or not because of the family then they most probably are mercenary. And If some mullah is saying that even they can not be stopped then ofcourse its null and void.

"and what exactly is your point about syeds????"

I just want to know how come most of the house negros have attached syed to their name .. while their 'cartoots' prove them to be the progeny of traitors? Secular&Syed doesn't make sense either. Is it really because of semitic origin or some other reason?

"islam doesnt allow people to take law in their hands"

Again using the name of islam whenever the need arises is not going to help either. These house negros have to be taken out whether one uses islamic doctrine or any other doctrine.

"all muslims need "to come out of self delusional bubble "

thats so true but for now i was talking about those with 'syed' attached to their names particularly in power.

but keep in touch enjoy it for now!

Posted 11 months ago on 01 Jun 2011 18:12 #
alirazaster
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u dint answer "you think i m naive, and YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF VERY SMART?"
anyway, it doesnt matter what opinion you have of me! the important thing is that you abstained from answering the part about yourself!

you have a very interesting definition of natural justice. anybody influential and evil who dies or is killed by someone gets natural justice! no? and if some commoner dies in the same fashion, what would that be?

"Well not any is coming for tourism thats my point and if they are not tourist or not because of the family then they most probably are mercenary. And If some mullah is saying that even they can not be stopped then ofcourse its null and void."
yes, probably most of the americans come here for evil purposes, but you can not rule out the fact that there are some people who are not for such reasons! and so, you can not kill everybody! only those who are actually killing innocents should be targeted. but people here do not understand this, and in fact they are being exploited by extremists who are using them for bombing places of worships. what damage have these so-called jihadis done to the americans?

"Again using the name of islam whenever the need arises is not going to help either. These house negros have to be taken out whether one uses islamic doctrine or any other doctrine."
whats negros to you might be a saviour to someone else.... and someone who you consider a saviour might be a negros for someone else...... and if we all start taking out the "negros", there is going to be a total collapse of society! and using the name of islam where it is due is not wrong... those who have legalized suicide bombing and armed jihad against unarmed, innocent citizens of pakistan are the ones who should be criticized for doing this crap in the name of islam

and you dont know who is a real syed and who isnt... only God knows.... being a syed or a progeny of any prophet isnt alone a certification of being a good person! there are some examples, like that of hazrat noah's. his son was against him, and he died in the flood that killed everybody except for the one's who were safely on board the ark of hazrat noah

Posted 11 months ago on 01 Jun 2011 18:51 #
Abdul Rahman
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TQ is one of the so called scholars who are rightly called
"scholars for dollars".

SAR,

You quoted very appropriate example of Prophet Nouh AS and his disobedient son. This reminds us of the common urdu phrase "wali ke pet me shaitaan".

Also Prophet SAS said in a authentic Hadith that he will not hesitate to cut the hand of Fatima RA when she God forbid commited any theft. This was a reminder to all of us that no one is above the Islamic law even if it happens to be daughter or son of Prophet SAS. That's why there is no such thing as Masoom for any human being except Prophets As.

Posted 11 months ago on 01 Jun 2011 19:01 #
alirazaster
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buhat khoob kaha aap nay, Abdul Rahman sahab
purana badla lenay ki koshish ki hai shayad aap nay, jub main nay aap ka ek baar muun band kiya thaa

ji haan, ye bilkul zaroori nahin hai k kisi Prophet ki aulaad bhi waisi he ho.... lekin kuch loge hain, jo bilkul sahi or masoom hain.... is he waja say Allah or us k farishtay bhi un pe durood-o-salaam bhejta hai

or aap ko bhi zabardasti namaz mein kehna perhta hai "Allah humma salle alaa Muhammad (saw) wa Aal-e-Muhammad(as)"

Posted 11 months ago on 01 Jun 2011 19:13 #
alirazaster
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"Also Prophet SAS said in a authentic Hadith that he will not hesitate to cut the hand of Fatima RA when she God forbid commited any theft. This was a reminder to all of us that no one is above the Islamic law even if it happens to be daughter or son of Prophet SAS. That's why there is no such thing as Masoom for any human being except Prophets As."

or aap k mutabiq tou Prophet (saw) ki 1 say ziada betiyaan theen, no? tou yahan sirf Hazrat Fatima (as) ka he naam kyun liya??????

Posted 11 months ago on 01 Jun 2011 19:27 #
Abdul Rahman
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SAR, There is no distinction whatsoever in daughters of Prophet SAS. It applies to all daughters. The context was only meant to highlight that no one is above law. Why he chose Fatima RA does not in any way negate the Hadith.
If someone has 6 daughters and he choses daaughter's one name does not mean he favors one over the other. We shall never question Prophet SAS that he favored one daughter or grandson over other. Just like if he took name of his grandson Hasan RA that does not mean that he forgot Hussain RA.

Muhammad SAS says that in the days of old, justice favored the rich. But he now imposes this penalty on them, even if the thief were his own daughter Fatima. So no one should intercede on behalf of any thief to prevent the penalty. It shall be imposed.

Do you intercede regarding one of the punishments prescribed by Allah? He then stood up and addressed (people) saying: O people, those who have gone before you were destroyed, because if any one of high rank committed theft amongst them, they spared him; and it anyone of low rank committed theft, they inflicted the prescribed punishment upon him. By Allah, if Fatima, daughter of Muhammad SAS, were to steal, I would have her hand cut off. (Muslim no. 4188) See a shorter parallel hadith in Bukhari.

Posted 11 months ago on 01 Jun 2011 20:17 #
SufiSoul
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or aap k mutabiq tou Prophet (saw) ki 1 say ziada betiyaan theen, no? tou yahan sirf Hazrat Fatima (as) ka he naam kyun liya??????
.......................................
zara Intellect level note karain plz.....
Mashallah
Subhanallah

Posted 11 months ago on 01 Jun 2011 21:48 #
Anwer Kamal
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http://tribune.com.pk/story/180102/wikileaks-fazlur-rehmans-votes-were-up-for-sale/

Posted 11 months ago on 01 Jun 2011 23:53 #
wazirabadi
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Posted 11 months ago on 02 Jun 2011 1:04 #
alirazaster
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lol
this is actually discrimination!
first of all, this hadees isnt mutually accepted as authentic... and secondly why would Prophet name only one daughter specifically?????
he could have said k even if any of his daughters (without naming anyone in particular) would have done it, he would treated her with justice.....

anyway, jahan history ko thora tora marora jata hai, wahan is tarha k loopholes reh jatay hain

Posted 11 months ago on 02 Jun 2011 6:56 #
truths
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shia propoganda against sunni muslim

Posted 11 months ago on 02 Jun 2011 7:15 #
junaid
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tahir ul qadri west ki ankh ka tarah. shyad is ka misaal na pak fauj ki tarhan hai..tareef karo dallar lo aur maut ka khauf bhi nahi.

Posted 11 months ago on 02 Jun 2011 8:35 #