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Taliban claim Pakistan Shiite parade attack

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  1. Wahid Doyum
    Member

    I am expecting the usual Taliban bachao group to respond in this manner:

    1) This is lie. Anyone can claim Taliban name.

    2) This is a reaction to Shia's words against the sahaba and Pakistan's support to US

    3) This is all a Hollywood movie. Balckwater was involved clearly.

    While saying all of this, in their hearts they agree with attacks on shias as per taliban reasoning.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091230/wl_afp/pakistanunrest_20091230142810

    PESHAWAR, Pakistan (AFP) – Pakistan's feared Taliban network claimed responsibility Wednesday for a suicide bombing that killed 43 people at a Shiite parade in Karachi and threatened further attacks.

    The claim was made by one of Pakistan's most wanted commanders in the Tehreek-e-Taliban (TTP) movement, which for two months has been targeted by a military offensive near the Afghan border.

    Monday's attack in Pakistan's biggest city reduced events marking the Shiites' holiest day, Ashura, to carnage and sparked riots, underlining the security challenge faced by the nuclear-armed Muslim country.

    It was the deadliest militant attack in Karachi in two years and one of the deadliest sectarian-linked attacks in conservative Pakistan.

    "We carried out the suicide bombing in Karachi," Asmatullah Shaheen, a top militant commander based in South Waziristan, told AFP by telephone from an undisclosed location.

    "We did it to protect the honour of the companions of the holy prophet," he said, referring to a centuries-old disagreement between Sunni Muslims, who dominate the Taliban, and Shiite Muslims over the succession to the Prophet Mohammed.

    "We will carry out more such attacks and also target government installations," Shaheen added.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 15:51 #
  2. netengr
    blocked

    when they do not claim then taliban supporters say " see Still taliban did not claim "
    when they deny then taliban supporters say "see Taliban has denied "

    when taliban accept they say "this is just a propaganda "

    یہ کیا منافقت ہےیہ کیا منافقت ہےیہ کیا منافقت ہےیہ کیا منافقت ہےیہ کیا منافقت ہےیہ کیا منافقت ہےیہ کیا منافقت ہےیہ کیا منافقت ہےیہ کیا منافقت ہےیہ کیا منافقت ہےیہ کیا منافقت ہےیہ کیا منافقت ہےیہ کیا منافقت ہے

    this is black water rafi usmani says
    http://jang.com.pk/jang/dec2009-daily/30-12-2009/updates/12-30-2009_16001_1.gif

    talibann nay zimadari qubool ker li

    http://jang.com.pk/jang/dec2009-daily/30-12-2009/updates/12-30-2009_15984_1.gif

    ———————————————
    اتنے سارے دھماکے ہوئے اور طالبان قبول کرتے رہے پر مفتی رفی عثمانی کبھی نے بولے ،اب بلیک واٹر کا نام لے رہے ہیں ،وہ بھائی جب علما ایسے ہو جائیں تو اپنے ایمان کی فکر کرنی چہیح

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 15:57 #
  3. msohail83
    Member

    Do the victims matter?

    It wasn't a suicide attack: Shia Ulema

    KARACHI : Shia clerics on Tuesday rejected government claim that Monday's blast on the Ashura procession was a suicidal attack, saying that it was instead a "planted" bomb blast. At the funeral prayer of at least 10 victims of the blast on Tuesday they said that Azadars would not limit the scheduled Muharram processions, and added that the Interior Minister, instead of advising the mourners to limit their activities, should ensure their security.

    http://aaj.tv/news/National/155723_detail.html

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 15:59 #
  4. netengr
    blocked

    Imrani firqa Taliban ko coverup kernay kay mission per kaam ker rahah hay

    Shia aalim criticizing Taliban and Their Supporters

    http://www.geo.tv/important_events/2009/karachiblast/news_images/29-12-2009/hasan-zafar-naqvi_a.gif

    ---

    Yeh attack Hemeed hul ya Jamaat Islami per kiyon nahi ho rahay ?

    What is Imrani Firqa?

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 16:05 #
  5. msohail83
    Member

    what is Imrani firqa?

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 16:06 #
  6. Anonymous

    You are correct Wahid Doyum.

    Now 'terrorist lovers' will fabricate statements to legitimize 'terror'.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 16:21 #
  7. Bomb attack on a Shia procession in Karachi! Shia Ulema refute this; attack was not by a suicide bomber but a planted bomb as they say was the cause of death and destruction. How come they are so sure?
    Only AFP was called by Taliban to claim this act of terrorism! What about some other media channels that reported same?

    Lets have a much wider and ralistic view of this tragedy.Minutes after the blast whole markets were plundered before being set on fire.In such a short time! A mystery in itself. What about some reported eyewitness accounts from people who live in that area?

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 17:08 #
  8. linkwheel
    Member

    Watch This Clip Closely:

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 17:25 #
  9. jaypk
    Member

    the allegations are also on MQM.....Allah jaanay ko hay is k peechay...!..but one thing is fr sure...whdever happened afterwards all tht loot and plunder and jalao gherao...tht wasnt a reaction..i think tht was the real action...but done afterwards...!!...and my friend is sayin...he didnt see police and officials as were expected...and it was looking like they are all waiting.!! God knows..!

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 18:38 #
  10. sasherwani
    Members

    Talibans did the suicide attack.
    MQM did the burn n loot.

    Thats what my analysis says. Everyone has their own opinion.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 18:59 #
  11. aftab arif
    Member

    @ sasherwani

    I second you on that.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 19:08 #
  12. netengr
    blocked

    Yes Taliban did suicide bombing

    MQM can be involved burning the shops ,but they also can be Sipah-sahaba workers who knew about the suicide bombings and have planed to looting the shops to provide money to their bothers in Waziristan they can stay and hide in any madersa and masjid .

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 19:09 #
  13. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    You guys completely ignore the fact that 'Pakistani Taliban' are not 'Taliban'. Military generals point out this fact themselves. They say, these people have 'used' the name 'Taliban' to enhance their not-so-deserving reputation.

    End result ?

    - The name 'Taliban' is being 'defamed'
    - Masses are 'made' to hate 'Taliban'

    - Opinions of the the masses are 'manipulated' by 'controlled' mass media 'campaigns' to support those who are enemies of Taliban

    - Indirectly, but ultimately make Pakistani people support US's + India's + Israel's agenda, at the same time, defeating the interests of the masses of Pakistan

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 19:21 #
  14. jaypk
    Member

    have you guys seen the recent clippings showin on ARY...how ppl are doing the loot maar..!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 20:23 #
  15. azeem20
    Member

    i wonder how many blood, lives of innocents and suicide attacks are needed by the taliban lovers to see the truth. for God sake, stop supporting these **** and stop giving justification to these brutal attacks.
    taliban are killers and they are culprits. and may be bigger culprits are those who are supporting them.
    the question from Shia alim was very valid and answerable "why not there any suicide attack of hameed gul and jamat e islami"?

    get out of the state of denial. taliban are the wildest and most horrible face of terrorism this country has ever faced. accept it.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 20:24 #
  16. yahya
    Member

    this is black water rafi usmani says
    http://jang.com.pk/jang/dec2009-daily/30-12-2009/updates/12-30-2009_16001_1.gif

    How come "blackwater" never attacked Mufti Rafi Usmani, JI and Imran Khan the supposed sworn enemies of US?

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 20:34 #
  17. Wahid Doyum
    Member

    "You guys completely ignore the fact that 'Pakistani Taliban' are not 'Taliban'."

    @Hariskahn,

    Taliban are taliban, no imaginary durand line can change who they are on one side or the other. They are very much more integrated than you try to make us believe. Haqqqanis operate on North Wazirastan where Pakistani Taliban are right now hiding. How do you think this is happening without close collaboration?

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 20:49 #
  18. netengr
    blocked

    Rafi Usmani never condemn any suicide attack openly ,When ever ppl ask deoband Ulema to condemn suicide bombing they say that we should negotiate with TALIBAN ,we do not know who is this Or we have to know the root cause blah blah and now these people are saying they are black water .
    Mufti sahab OK lets say black water is involved then why you do not condemn suicide bomber ? why you say these suicide bombing is reaction ?

    Mohtaram Mufti sahab ....

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 20:54 #
  19. aftab arif
    Member

    We should absolutely talk with the Taliban and come to a ceasefire agreement.

    Posted 2 years ago on 30 Dec 2009 21:45 #
  20. yahya
    Member

    We should absolutely talk with the Taliban and come to a ceasefire agreement.

    Why talk to Taliban if they are not involved? Shouldn't we be talking to blackwater instead?

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 0:12 #
  21. shahzad1924
    member

    @jaypk - "have you guys seen the recent clippings showin on ARY...how ppl are doing the loot maar..!!"

    men at their best! :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 2:30 #
  22. toamin
    member

    Mufti Rafi Usmani is a great scholar and his assessment is correct, these are american contractors who are orchestrating all these crimes inside Pakistan.

    Save Pakistan from breakup and expose these blackwater & their supporters.

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 2:45 #
  23. toamin
    member

    @yahya,

    Why talk? To kill Blackwater's supply line, as long as you let the drones hit innocent civilians, as long as you let army destroy pushtoon regions, the supply line will keep on flourishing and BW would be utilizing the resources in synch with traitors like rehman malik & zulfi mirza.

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 2:52 #
  24. NNL
    member

    So when the ppl who were attacked say this wasnt a suicide attack ppl have problems believing them ?

    lol thats rich.

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 3:56 #
  25. qadirm
    Members

    The drones kill dogs like baithullah mehsud who kill innocent people if they were alive today. It would be a good day when the drones take out ttp and al Qaeda leadership out. I hope that day comes soon

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 8:28 #
  26. aftab arif
    Member

    @ yahya

    Talk to them because we are in over our heads, if our army wants to continue this war for dollars then good luck to they cat and mouse game, the quicker we make peace with the taliban and breakaway from this War Of Terror the better for us civilians.

    I never said taliban did not do bombing.

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 12:17 #
  27. netengr
    blocked

    Shia fanatics burned and looted shops
    deoband extremist did the blast and killed people

    all this is happening on the name of religion and their supporters always trying to divert the situation ,they are blaming black water and MQM , but CCTV captured people who are Hussain,Baqar etc and Taliban claimed the responsibility .Keep denying inshaAllah this fire will burn their supporters .

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 12:44 #
  28. toamin
    member

    no, not happening on the religion, but some particular people are trying to portray it as "in the name of religion"

    karachi police has submitted report and they have not said that it was a suicide attack, also check out FIA report on the incident

    black water agent claimed responsibility but FIA has rejected that claim

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 12:46 #
  29. toamin
    member

    watch the CCTV footage, MQM workers are clearly visible.

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 12:51 #
  30. netengr
    blocked

    Shia taliban

    they have also burned car in pehalwan ghoth Gulistan-e- Joher and this is total ANP and Shia area where MQM cannot even enter .

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 12:54 #
  31. toamin
    member

    MQM flag is visible, these are purely MQM workers who preplanned all that.

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 12:54 #
  32. netengr
    blocked

    Asim ali ,Riyadh hussain ,Qarar hussain

    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/taliban-claim-pakistan-shiite-parade-attack?replies=30#post-106232

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 12:55 #
  33. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @Salam/Janu Jerman

    I agree with you, they were even chanting MQM's slogans :)))

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 12:55 #
  34. toamin
    member

    MQM+PPP gave names ending with 'hussain' to blame poor shias who were victimized.

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 12:57 #
  35. netengr
    blocked

    all wearing black cloths ,in them are Mohajirs ,Pathan ,and Punjabi all were shias extremists .
    they have burned the cars in pehalwan goth gulistanenejoher where MQM cannot even enter .

    These religous fanatics is making Hell

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:00 #
  36. toamin
    member

    that area is hard core MQM area, their gangs were ready and waiting for the explosion.

    look at the MQM flag on their head!

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:02 #
  37. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @All

    To hell with both Taliban/deobandi terrorists and Shia extremist !

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:02 #
  38. toamin
    member

    and hell with the MQM looters & arsonists who destroyed their own city

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:03 #
  39. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    Praise to Mustafa Kamal and MQM who have tirelessly worked to develop infrastructure of Karachi !

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:04 #
  40. toamin
    member

    After done with praise, condemn Mustafa Kamal and MQM for destroying karachi!

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:06 #
  41. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    BTW thanks to Command and Control System of CDGK made by Mustafa Kamal which exposed real faces of arsonists !

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:06 #
  42. toamin
    member

    Exposed, but both PPP+MQM kept mum on who were all those gangs seen on CCTV.

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:06 #
  43. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    If they were MQM guys then isn't it ironical that Mustafa Kamal himself released VDO clips :))))

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:07 #
  44. toamin
    member

    MQM tried to edit as quick as possible before release...

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:07 #
  45. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    Off course they were angry Shias who lost their senses after seeing carnage caused by bombing !
    But Taliban apologists are trying to implicate MQM :)))

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:09 #
  46. One group is doing destruction, destruction and only destruction.

    The other group is doing destruction and re-construction.

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:10 #
  47. Red-Scorpion
    Blocked

    @Janu Jerman

    """"MQM tried to edit as quick as possible before release..."""

    >>>

    LOLzzzz
    But they failed as you've recognised them :)))

    """
    Salam
    Member
    watch the CCTV footage, MQM workers are clearly visible.

    Posted 18 minutes ago on 31 Dec 2009 12:51 # """

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:11 #
  48. This thread as it appears is going no where except comments are targeted at members while the real purpose/spirit of a rational discussion is lost along the way!

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:13 #
  49. toamin
    member

    Yes, MQM was ready with banners, looters, arsonists. Some how MQM knew that explosion will happen so they made all preps.

    Only in case of MQM police and rangers stood by as spectators, else there were 20,000 police/rangers on the spot.

    Someone ordered police/rangers to not interfere in MQM business.

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:14 #
  50. aftab arif
    Member

    These shops that were burnt belong to Punjabi, pathan, Memon, balochi, Sindhi's but the surrounding residential area is populated by Muhajir community. Shia are also in MQM and some of they top leadership is also Shia.

    Posted 2 years ago on 31 Dec 2009 13:15 #

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