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haider3
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Taliban reject London conference
Friday, January 29, 2010

By our correspondent

PESHAWAR: Terming the London conference as far removed from the ground realities in Afghanistan, the Taliban central leadership on Thursday argued that the US and its allies should have freed all prisoners from jails in Guantanamo Bay, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere, removed the names of all Taliban members from the UN ‘blacklist’ and refrained from sending more troops if they really meant to take the proper steps for ending the Afghan conflict.

The long statement by the Leadership Council of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan in Pashto was sent to media organisations. Its English translation also became available later on the Taliban website. It said those jailed should not have been kept in prisons for so many years against all principles and in violation of human rights.

The statement argued that the ‘Mujahideen’ were not fighting for money or to grab power. Describing as baseless that most Taliban fighters were not ideologically committed, it claimed that nobody compelled the ‘Mujahideen’ to take up arms and fight the invaders.

“Had the aim of the Mujahideen of the Islamic Emirate been obtainment of material goals, they would have accepted dominance of the invaders in the first place and would have supported them. Everything was in their hand — comfortable life, money and power.

“But the Islamic Emirate will never trade on the matter of faith, conscience, soil and the homeland for material benefits or be coerced and tempted as a result of intimidation and personal privileges. Such wicked game doesn’t fit into the history of the honour-loving people of Afghanistan,” the statement stressed.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=26946

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 8:18 #
netengr
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Taliban has rejected civilization and insaniat .They do not want to live as human .

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 8:43 #
hariskhan
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Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

Excellent!!! move by Taliban.

US, UK, their allies were conducting yet another charade. Plus they wanted to give India a lead role in geopolitics of this region.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 9:07 #
haider3
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Muslim countries contain some of the most corrupt people on God's earth, along with others spectacular as regards honesty. The Taliban are a case in point.

As for the London conference, like the Copenhagen climate nonsense or 9/11 and other fictons, etc., it's nothing but a face-saving scam. The Afghan resistance has won its war. Thank you God! Rejoice, man, rejoice!

=The west is toast=

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 9:20 #
toamin
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Of course secretary defense visited with elaborated plan and first brought indian side on board and then brough gen kiani on board. After conspiring with all the stake holders he winked to his junior -stanley mccrystal- who started waving the 'truce' flag.

It is like good cop bad cop game to break the person's will, they want to try the good cop role to see if any cracks appear...

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 9:46 #
haider3
member

BTW: Iran was one country that did not take part in the London show and scam.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 9:51 #
hariskhan
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Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

ALL! Muslim nations should have rejected this meeting. ALL of them should have geared up for a regional conference instead.

It would have set the REAL precedent -> WE! the people of this region are in power in our land, we! decide, NOT! you!, the west.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 9:54 #
toamin
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It would have been impossible to invade Iraq or Afghanistan without tacit support of Iran!

Reason for not participating is because of non-existent diplomatic channel between US & Iran, of course they only work through track 2 channels.

But remember the Iranian role in the invasions of Iraq & Afghanistan, just like Pak back stabbed Afghanistan, Iran back stabbed both Iraq & Afghanistan.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 9:59 #
hariskhan
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Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@Salam: What in the name of ALLAH ? Are you saying the current regime in Iran purposefully did this ?

What did they have to get out of it ?

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 10:01 #
LetsDoIt
Member

Taliban rejected civilization and insaniat.......PUFFFFFF

To occupy someones land is called civilization and insaniat now a days.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 10:22 #
haider3
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RE IRAN, the most constantly threatened country in today's annals. They have never collaborated with the West as implied above. They have always acted to further the cause of Islam, seeing to it at the same time that they didn't get a few bombs on their heads as well. Which would have served no purpose, apart from raising the casualty figures among Muslims even further.

Also, I don't understand why everyone is shaking in their boots about non-country India, at a time when it's so clear the Umma is on the rise. It should be the other way round. India should be doing the trembling and shaking, and so it does.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 10:37 #
haider3
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Bitter irony in what you say, LetsDoIt, bitter irony. But as we all know, we are too backward even to realise what "civilization and insaniat" mean. For that one must be fair of skin, blue-eyed and at least six-feet tall.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 10:40 #
toamin
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Iran is not a threatening country at all, appearances are deceptive my dear. If I go into details of Iranian collaboration on Iraq & Afghan invasion then your thread might get derailed, so let us keep this for some other time where I can try to explain how we establish this from ground reality -forget the rhetorical slogans, look at their actions.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 10:45 #
haider3
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OK, Salam, you give us your take on Iran when you get the time.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 10:51 #
Anonymous

Taliban comprise of most brutal, illiterate and uncivilized people on God’s earth. After the American supported Jihad in Afghanistan, they forcefully occupied the land in Afghanistan. When thrashed by Americans they ran fast towards Pakistan to save their lives and started their brutal activities here. Like in Afghanistan, they started grabbing the land here on gunpoint and unleashed their barbaric atrocities on innocent people of Pakistan. They were told to live peacefully but they took it as the weakness of government of Pakistan and declared rebellion. As they did not understood the messages of words, government of Pakistan was left with no other alternative then to tell them in the language they understand.

This shows that Taliban do not believe in dialogue. It is proved yet again that they don’t believe in talks when they rejected to take part in the conference. They are doomed to be the losers on all the fronts.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 12:39 #
toamin
member

You seem quite frustrated with US/NATO's decision to go for peace :)

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 12:45 #
NNL
member

Mirza Ghalib and Letsdoit

Right on guys. Right on.

Salam you are shedding light where most dont want the light. For them its hard to believe. Keep Shining the light.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 13:27 #
toamin
member

Thanks NNL, Iranian role needs to be thoroughly scrutinized in context of not only Iraq/Afghan invasions but also in Yemen conflict. Their tacit involvement in Yemen is also another dimension to Iranian role in this global war against Muslims.

Well, we better leave it for some other time since this thread is related with London Conference and not Iran.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 13:42 #
hariskhan
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Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

Since we are discussing Afghanistan, US/Nato's war in Afghanistan, comments relevant to Iran's envolvment in this is also relevant to this thread.

What can Iran have done, especially since Pakistan was ready to help US start and fight war in Afghanistan ?

Pakistan under Musharraf, Zardari gave US full access to Pakistan, which continues even today, not only for its military supplies to Afghanistan, but for more!. How could Iran have influenced this situation ?

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 13:44 #
haider3
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Good man, hariskhan, asking the pertinent questions about Pak guilt in Afghanistan as versus Iranian involvement. The way I see it, we have the anti-Taliban wing on this blog, followed by the anti-Pakistan wing and now the anti-Iran wing is adjusting its disguise before putting in an appearance. At this rate, we'll have read them all before we're much older. The only thing which will continue to be missing are any anti-West sentiments.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 14:27 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

OIC is dead. So is our collective state. Muslims need to revive their institutions in order to assert their presence outside their borders.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 15:05 #
NNL
member

Mullay Nafs-e-Shaitan we just following you lead

(smile + Wink Wink )

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 15:41 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

@NNL: Yaar, what is Mullay Nafs-e-Shaitan's nick ? I can't see him.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 15:49 #
Anonymous

Pakistan can play role in terms of asking Taliban because most of them are Pashtuns and we have many links with Pashtun population but on the other hand Iran can also create its influence because almost all language spoken in Afghanistan are influenced by Persian so here Pakistan and Iran need collective efforts to get things under control in Afghanistan and make sure of safe departure of NATO forces because no one want NATO to stay in Afghanistan...

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 15:57 #
haider3
member

Bon voyage, Nato. Reach home safely and never ever dream of coming back.

Posted 2 years ago on 29 Jan 2010 16:08 #
Wahid Doyum
Member

Of course, the ISI would never allow it's assets to surrender control and let Afghans stand on their own.

Posted 2 years ago on 31 Jan 2010 0:31 #
rocketrevolt
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"Of course, the ISI would never allow it's assets to surrender control and let Afghans stand on their own. "

So cause of the Bhangis in Pak Army Afghan should accept Karzai Government? Hence living happily ever after?

Some qoutes of you....

1.
"Good job drones for doing the job Pakistani army cannot do. Enemy of Pushtuns deserve this and more. "

More like "enemies of america".. I guess we have halbrooke here...oh wait i am wrong!!

2."Haji Omar, the anti-pakistan and anti-pukthun taliban leader was hiding in North Waziristan after running away from Shakai and was a deputy under Mullah Omar's Afghan Taliban government and also helped organize the Pakistani Talban and slaughtered many Pukhtun tribal leaders in course of this."

random ramblings? Mullah omer himself was an agent?..lol

3."Taliban attacks funded by pakistani army kill indiscriminately."

huh? isn't this what you've said before

"who are running away at top speed from the Pakistan army in Waziristan" and "uzbek terror leader preaching against pak in Waziristan"

Confusion?

4."Drone attacks are planned and targets are acquired through use of air surveillance, communication intercepts and ground intelligence. Do you know who provides the ground intel? Patriotic Pukhtuns who are tired of the atrocities of taliban and occupying foreigner terrorists and their ISI masters."

More like propaganda coming from Langley HeadQuarters brought to you by Bhangis in the Army and the Bhangis in ANP....oh wait i am wrong!

5."and are unable to fight insurgency ourselves and have to rely on drones to kill our enemies, we have NO right to complain and cry. "

American Embassy? ...deymn i am wrong again!

6."Afghan Taliban has also issued warnings to attack inside Pakistan. Are they also Blackwater? Is not Pakistan Dar-ul-Harb now?"

Indian in Northern Alliance is here !!...oh wait i am wrong!

7."Does Dr. Mahathir Mohamad have a PhD in engineering? "

Mahathir must be taliban madarasa student...oh wait i am wrong!

8."I think she (Dr.Afia) should be released to a mental institution as it is clear from her statements she is not mentally stable."
are you psycho? Maybe i am right this time?

9."JI and IJT are terrorist organizations who had direct hand in the genocide of Bengalis and right now are involved in attempted genocide of Pukhtuns, so nothing new here."

10. "Only people who conduct suicide bombing in pakistan are the taliban and their takfiri brothers in other groups as they proudly claim themselves they have thousands of bombers in training.. No other group has been found involved in suicide bombing."

What? takfiri group..? Now you are having a tone of MQM?..deymn i am wrong!

11." How so? Are the attackers not following well established teachings of great fundo mullah Syed Qutb or those of Mujahid Osama? They are killing members of a murtad army serving a country that does not have talibani sharia and is allied with the kaffir US. So, what's the problem here? "
secular mullah?...deymn i must be wrong!

12" 1 policeman killed, rocket attack on police armored car.

If not taliban, than lyrai baloch gangs getting active!"

So finally we know This guy is from '90'. Oh no wait i am wrong!

13."It is not Muslim way to surrender in front of zalims, in this case taliban. We already tried before to negotiate with them, but as per their takfiri ideology, negotiations is as a sign of weakness"

ANP+MQM?...deymn...i am wrong....lol

I give up....Enough of it!

I dont have more time....why not you help me know who are you basically? Would be a kind thing to do if you could Start first from your ethnicity,your believes and then your affiliation.Just a request to make it easier for me.Please?

Posted 2 years ago on 31 Jan 2010 1:51 #