Target Killings in Karachi... Who is responsible???

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Salam
member

Oh so you mean that Jamaatia not in the sense that belonging to Jamaat-e-Islami as political rival but in the sense to degrade the political rivals?

Is Jamaat the only political rival for MQM in karachi?

Posted 1 month ago on 07 Feb 2010 14:52 #
yahya87
Member

I said we use Jamatis for ignorant and **** without any discrimination of JI, PML, PPP etc for some reasons that are given in my previous post so its not about targeting someone specifically but its a general term that we use for those people...

Posted 1 month ago on 07 Feb 2010 15:11 #
d0ct0r
Member

Jamatis for ppp? What do you use for MQMized goons then?

Posted 1 month ago on 07 Feb 2010 15:22 #
yahya87
Member

""What do you use for MQMized goons then? ""

we call them "SATHI"

""Jamatis for ppp?""

we use Jamatis for ignorant and **** and also "munafiqs" without any discrimination of JI, PML, PPP etc whoever falls in that category of ignorant and **** and also "munafiqs"...

Posted 1 month ago on 07 Feb 2010 18:10 #
kashif771
Member

i think extremists are behind the karachi blasts of MA jinnah road

http://www.questionat.com/questions/1823-who-is-behind-the-bomb-blasts-in-karachi-

Posted 1 month ago on 07 Feb 2010 19:04 #
KHAN_Sahib
Member

BravoGO,

If you want to close your eyes like an Ostrich and think that everything is hunky dorey then no one can argue with you. Do you mind, telling me your age and what do you do for living cuz I have no serious doubts about you. You talk about totally, irrelevant points just like your Madari Altaf.

If MQM has voted against Quota then and have been in the Govt for so many years then why are they not raising voice against Quota system? Correct me if I am wrong…. They have demanded for the abolishment of Quota system ONCE… they have not VOTED (as there was never a voting against Quota system in Provincial or National Assembly) against Quota system. So it’s a white LIE ..

You said…” Jab Gharoon per Hamlay hoongay aur Police Hamla awaeroon K saath hamla karaygi to Ak - 47 to Layni hee paraygi”

Altaf said these words to buy AK47 in his initial speech before any violence against Muhajirs but it was MQM who started killing Pukhtoons. It all started with Bushra Zaidi case who was killed in a road accident (it was a Kashmiri mini-bus driver and not a Pukhtoon) but MQM went out on a rampage and killed 15 Pukhtoons on the first day, followed by 25 on the next day. Just Pray tell me, In which book, it’s written that you KILL a person for someone else’s fault and in which book MQM has been given the authority to implement their own Tribal style Justice and to take law in their own hands?
Also, If this is the case, then you are actually not only promoting illegal weapons but also wrongly justifying a WRONG Practice.

You Said,…” Education and Mohajirs
We have By The Grace of GOD capacity to have Education & weapon both b/c of experiences of past,we have been in war from pre partion when against Britains and now ones who R like ourselves but R more worst than Britains.
Shall I even bother to comment on your statement????? Go and read the history of Afghanistan and Pushtuns and you will know about the war against British Raaj.
You Said,… We have suffered alot and whole Pakistan were in heavens when we were defending ourselves so we had to bear alot of loss of business and you demand to remain in opposition to loose more ( what a mind U have ).

Suffered? MQM caused the total collapse of karachi’s tock market and forced the major Punjabi businessmen to move to Lahore or abroad instead of getting looted, threatened and force to pay Bhatta to MQM. What Planet are u on? Heavens???? You think that people of Baluchistan and Pukhtoonkhwa have been living in Heavens from last 20 – 30 years while your Mafia Don is celebrating his birthdays as if he is a small kid! He is such an idiot and lame person in the history of Idiots… Kabhee Karotan kay pattey bay shabhee… Kabhee masjid kee dewar may deedar… kabheee marble may inn ke badshakal namoordaar… Wat a joker he is!
You Said that, “Afaq and Amir were against of that idea in which Altaf Hussain was considering the Mohajir Qaumi Movement into Muttahida Qaumi Movement, B/c we knew the REAL OWNERS of PAKISTAN will create more criminals and drug seller like PPi,Qadir MAgsi and ANP type people………
So you think that all people who supports PPI or Qadir magsi or ANP are criminals and Drug sellers???
I wish you can say this in front of these people just once! You are indeed a racist, narrow minded person like your corrupt DON and Killer of thousands Muhajirs, Pushtuns, Punjabis,Baluchs…
I was about to write more… Buy Hey! It’s not worth it and I am not gonna waste my time on your senseless replies

Posted 1 month ago on 07 Feb 2010 22:49 #
bravogameover
Member

@ Khan _ Sah

Everything which leads to abolish your " Ummat Afsana " you run like ... ....

Quota system Extended

You said MQM did not oppose the Quota b/c it was neither presented for Voting.check it

http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/constitution/amendments/TheNews_16thAmendment_28July1999.html

http://www.safhr.org/refugee_watch14_5.htm
(12th Paragraph)

Pakistani STATE Belives in Provincialism and Ethicity,that is Y they do not want to abolish " NON HUMAN " constituiional " behavior, STATE wants to do deliberately discrimination by which people wil fight with each other and will not do any attention to the Brutality of REAL OWNERS Of PAKISTAN.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL5tbU9_Kgc&feature=related
(real Owner of Pakistan)

Water, NFC, Provincial Autonomy R the another examples of it.

Abou Qadir Magsi , ANP and PPI

Shahi Syed warning to Mohjirs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmSJFyNiD_U

In K samnay Kehnay say nahin Kuch " Kernay " ka Waqt hai , Dear Khan or Kan Sahib.

App ki ANP,Qadir Magsi ( killer of 100 Mohjirs @ haider Chowk,Hyderabad),PPI ( Drugsellers ) say Mohabbat he aap K ta-arruf K ay Liay kafi hai.

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 12:47 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

If target killings are taking place, if no one has been;

(1) arrested
(2) charged with murder
(3) taken through legal procedure
(4) given due/exemplary punishment with respect to the crime

for many days or weeks, does that not implicate those running Govt. are also envolved in the crime ?

Justice delayed is justice denied.

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 12:56 #
quaidkamazaar
Member

@khan_sahib

brother, I urge you to understand the reasons behind why MQM picked up guns. It was not an easy situation.

during the operation, I can imagine a scene of Army Tanks were rolling into Landhi, this was reality, and MQM were still fighting with Guns and not getting scared, it was a matter of defending their city and matter of survival for them.

with so much chaos going on, you cannot just expect MQM, a newly formed entity in those times to just sit quiet. the baloon had to burst, it had filled up too much.

if we really believe in 1) Muslim 2) Pakistan
then quota system should not have such a great support in Pakistan.

QUota System was a big reason for Karachites to support MQM... if there was no racism, MQM would not have existed.

For me, there is too much talk, and too little belief in major Islamic principles.

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 15:37 #
quaidkamazaar
Member

@ yahya,

jamatis have become a standard for **** in Karachi, thats for surE!

@ hariskhan

most certainly yes, those in govt are involved in crime.
PPP home minister wants chaos in Karachi, trust me. he does not deploy enough police in KArachi. and police is usually sleeping. While MQM has no choice but to remain ittihaadi otherwise situation will really get out of hand and Sindh atmosphere will become of the olden times with even more hatred than exists. situation is very tricky.

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 15:39 #
hariskhan
member

Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

On the 'Ashura' day, it is said that there was 23,000 Police personnel who could have been summoned.

23,000 personnel is not bad for Karachi.

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 15:59 #
yahya87
Member

""On the 'Ashura' day, it is said that there was 23,000 Police personnel who could have been summoned.

23,000 personnel is not bad for Karachi. ""

my friend Karachi is not New York which has the population of one million and relatively peacefull because no one has weapons except criminals...Here in Karachi even a labor working in a factory has gun as guns are entered Karachi from Afghanistan and tribal agencies so here even they are not enough and you should heard munir sheikh who is an inspector of bamb disposal squad in Karachi then you will be able to understand the difference....

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 16:17 #
quaidkamazaar
Member

@hariskhan

its not about 23,000 police personnel...

its about what those personnel do.

they are the most illiterate, bribe-eating, sleeping, police i have ever seen in my life. the fact is that most of them are not even from Karachi!!!!
thats why i ask for a seperate city police concept just like Mustafa Kamal which can strive to maintain law and order at every cost.

I like Mubashir luqman because he is daring to expose such things

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DoqncPs2v8

there is absolutely no organization whatsoever in Karachi police

KArachi is much much much more populated than Lahore police.... Yet it receives much much much less police in ratio. i took out figures recently but will have to find them again.

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 18:54 #
KHAN_Sahib
Member

bravogameover... Lagta hay jamatioun nay tumhey kafi dukh deeye hain! May andaaza kur sakta houn aur tumharey "Dard" aur gham may baraber ka shareek houn..

Wasey tumharee tabeeyat kay leeye arz karoun kay may PTI ka supporter houn (jiss ko may andohun may kanna raja samjta houn) jahan rahee Jaamat kee baat tou mayree nazar may iss kee jo haqeeqat hay woh phir kabhee batoun ga..

And If you think that your rambling about ANP will affect me then you should get your Brains checked cuz If I am saying, Muslim First aur Phir Pakistani tou yeah lassanee bakwaas ko may kaysey support kur sakta houn?

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 19:42 #
KHAN_Sahib
Member

quaidkamazaar..

Brother tell me with your hand on your heart... Kaya Haqeeqi ka yeah gunnah kay woh Muhajir Identity kay leeye larna chahtey thay, (According to MQM and as mentioned above too) woh itnna burra thaa kay aap nay Muhajiroun kee aik Generation hee mitta dee.. Agar Landhi may tankoun pay operation howa thaa tou woh bhee tou app hee kay muhajir bhai thay, iss ka doshh dossroun ko kayoun?
Aik taraf aap Punjabi ko galee daytain hain waheen aap Nawaz say accord kartey hain! Aik taraf Pukhtton aap kay leeye Talibaan hay magar dossree taraf aap ANP kay saath haat milatey hain jo kay Transport Mafia kay loag hain jin ko aap hur roaz martey hain! I find it absured that MQM has no one stance.

As regards to Muhajir rights... Who is denying their rights??? That Poor Cobbler (Mocchee) that poor chowkidaar, that pukhtoon labour or that chai waala who get killed by MQM???? Seriously! DO u really think kay muhajiroun kay huqooq Pukhtoon nay marey hain? Huqooq tou wahan marey jaatey hain jahan, clash of interest hoe! Kaya Muhajir Mocchi, Chowkidaar, mini bus driver, chai wala, road pay pathar kotnay ka kaam woh bhee karachi kee garmioun may aur rozay kee haalat may kaya karna chahtey hain? AAp nay kitnay Pukhtoon Offices may kaam kartey hoye daikhain hain jo MQM pukhtoon ko itttna bara khatra samjthee hay! Aur agar yeah baat samj may nahee atee tou aik baat maan lain aur pukhtoon kee aik baar history pur lain... Afghanistan aysey hee weeran khander nahee banna hay.... Agar aik Pukhtoon itnnee assanee say kissee kay badmashee say bhaag jaata tou aaj Afghanistan bhee Pakistan kee taraha america ya russia ka ghulam hotta! MQM is disillusioned that they will ever rule Karachi.... That time is not too far that claiming to be a MQM supporter will be like claiming to be a BJP supporter in Karachi... Sirf thora saa intezzar karoo yaar

Baqi rahee Muslim aur pakistani kee baat,....... tou agar yeah baat aap kee samaj may nahee athee tou aap kee marzi hay... Baqi..

Naam rahey ALLAH ka!

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 20:01 #
bravogameover
Member

@ khan _ sah

Mochi,Chai Wala were killed by MQM ,
another UMMAT AFSANA.

MQM - H was used as a toy of Pindi - Islamabad from 1991 and they are doing same,now ANP & PPP have shake their hands with MQM - H.

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 20:29 #
KHAN_Sahib
Member

Nahee... Pukhtoon khood ko goli martey hain aur ilzaam MQM pay daal daitey hain. MQM waley tou farishtey hain! Wah Wah Wah

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 20:33 #
bravogameover
Member

@Khan _ sahi

By the way App kay PTI (AndHoon Main Kana Raja ) K Pakistan Ki Society K asal Masail Per Kia IZhar rkhtay Hain, Sivaey daily basis K issues per single, double runs Laynay Kay.

Is Imran ki Zuban say Main nay sivaey Taliaban, Alqaeda ki Himayat aur MQM ki ,Musharraf ki Mukhalfat K alawa main nay kabhi Kuch nahin suna.

1 . He doesnot speak about Extreme Provincial Autonomy nor About Most Extreme Local Governemnt System.

2 . He doesnt speak for Justiceful NFC and Nor on WATER issue b/c Provinces.

3 . He dosent speak about abolishing Federal & Provincial QUOTA( 100 % merit from Federal level to Provincial Level)means JUCTICE,(Which is less in his party)

4 .He doesnt speak about maximization of DIRECT TAX revolutions by which Finances can be doubled/trippled.

5 . He doesnt have any justiceful stand for Kashmir,Siachin,Sur Creek that ALL issues b/w Pakistan & India must be resolved with out weapon.(as both Pak & Indai has been kicking Kashmiris with each other)

Which type of leader he is , he doesnt have any opinion for the Governing system of Pakistan,

but yes,he plays " daily issues on daily basis"
Build Hospital by CHARITY in which people R required to pay the fees

Built NAMAL, where students must pay fees like in any other private college University.

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 20:57 #
quaidkamazaar
Member

brother Khan_Sahib,

I am not trying to bluff here, honesly
most of MQM does not think of Pukhtoons as danger.
they think of "Talibanization" as danger.

Pukhtoon and Taliban are too extremely different things.

MQM does not have anything against Pukhtoons like Shahid Afridi or Rahim Shah.

It is this ideology of Talibanization which is of concern because it is a fact that there have been madrassas in Karachi where people have been brainwashed. there have been suicide jackets found with grenades.

manny manyyy Talibans have been captured in Karachi as well as Baitullah Mesud's right hand man.

So, this fear of Talibanization is fear of Taliban ideology sweeping Karachi.

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 22:44 #
quaidkamazaar
Member

next thing,

you speak about Haqiqis,

Haqiqis were generated by agencies and during the 1992 operation they were supporting the genocide of ordinary Mahajirs with the army. thats why they have no support today because they are looked at as traitors. there are whole stories behind how MQM-H was created by agencies and thats just too much stories.

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 22:50 #
quaidkamazaar
Member

rather than dwelling into the past,
we shall look to the future,
most people like me dont have anything to do with Altaf Hussain.

I have nothing to do with that guy. It is the ideology of MQM, it is the purpose, it is the work, the representation of middle class educated people, it is its actions in building this city that bound Karachites like me towards MQM and make me appreciate its work.

Posted 1 month ago on 08 Feb 2010 22:53 #
KHAN_Sahib
Member

Quaidkamazar,
if u have nothing to do with altaf then why don't u get rid of him. Why don't u bring the mayor of Karachi as head of MQM! Kub tuk shakseeyat parastee kurtay rahoo gay aur baat karo gay "ideology" kee?

Posted 1 week ago on 11 Mar 2010 0:09 #