insaftak
Member
Sher Khan had contested elections from the provincial assembly constituency, PF-83, on the ticket of PTI during the recent by polls held in swat and came second. He was also the former nazim of Koza Bandai union council. He was also part of Amn Tehrek in Swat playing a crucial role to bring Army and militants on the table to negotiate peace in swat.
A sad day for people of swat and supporters of Pakistan Tehrek-Insaf.
Inna lilahi wainna alehi rajuun
aftab arif
Member
Inna lilahi wainna alehi rajuun
They is a pattern here and my money is on Afghan Intelligence, CIA and RAW being responsible for this, these players don't want to see peace in Pakistan.
Wahid Doyum
Member
Where are the usual suspects around to celebrate death of another pukhtun leader? Even joining PTI, negotiating with taliban will not save you from them.
Think about this next time the order is given to pukhtuns to surrender to talibs.
Shock
Members
@aftab
And yet Imran keeps visiting India, hangs around with the ladies there. Where do these RAW, and CIA disappear? The PTI candidate was killed by the very people he wanted to talk to. Now you can go ahead and talk to these extremist to not to kill you.
aftab arif
Member
@ Shock
They are allowed back over the border without hindrance by the Afghan Intelligence.
What does this have to do with Imran visiting India?
Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,
IN-na-lil-LA-he-wa-IN-na-ilai-he-RA-ji-OON
Will this stop PTI from building as well as running their 'tehreek' ?
Will this stop PTI from struggling for justice ?
achtung
Member
a bad news.
inna lillahe wa inna ilahe rajeoon.
Shock
Members
@aftab
Well, according to you Raw killed your candidate. Why is Imran then so fond of India? The reason why Afghanistan may be supporting these elements is because Pakistan is supporting Afghan Taliban. We don't decide the future of Afghanistan, it is their people.
SufiSoul
Member
I L W I I R...
People frm sawat and other such areas need to be aware that they should stay neutral between TTP and ARMY..
Things like Aman Tehrik will put your life in danger....
This is very simple to understand BUT i dont know why people having problems understanding this.....
aftab arif
Member
@ Shock
RAW and other agencies being involved in creating havoc is my opinion and NOT Imran's and thus Imran is free to go and visit India or any other place he feels necessary to do so.
insaftak
Member
when was imran khan in india???? am i missing something??? also no one knows who killed him. its too easy to blame CIA/Raw/ Mossad, Talibans or Pak Fauj.
Wahid Doyum
Member
"People frm sawat and other such areas need to be aware that they should stay neutral between TTP and ARMY.."
No, not neutral, pukhtun lashkars should attack army/ttp terrorists with full force.
time
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@Wahid Doyum
Who will provide arms to Pukhtoon lashkars?
Wahid Doyum
Member
Anyone for all I care can provide it, as long as we beat back the devious enemies who pretend to be "muslim brothers", but are worst then the kuffar.
zia m
Member
Wahid Doyum,
Do you have any stats on the percentage of Afghans supporting the Taliban?
time
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@Wahid Doyum
Who created these Pushtoon Lashkars? Before Army operation where were these so called pushtoon lashkars?
Wahid Doyum
Member
Many are neutral. Many support local resistance who may join taliban for the time being if they feel wronged by Pakistani or American army, but they are not hardcore taliban. Others have undergone ISI brainwashing. While others who have suffered from ISI and Taliban are bitterly opposed to taliban.
Hard statistic in a war zone are impossible to get.
Wahid Doyum
Member
@time, pukhtuns created lashakrs, who else? Tribal system in fata was devastated by taliban onslaught after 9/11 while pakistani army watched from the sidelines.
zia m
Member
I think we have the same problem...Corruption in both countries.I don't know who is worse Karzai or Zardari.
wantinsaf
Member
It really is a sad news.But real dilemna is we don't any system to bring culprits before law.
One assasination can not stop this revolution and PTI needs to put more efforts to bring revolution in this country peacefully.
aftab arif
Member
In the hot seat
Khalid Khawaja, a former Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) official, and Mahmood al-Samarai, was sent to North Waziristan to explore the opportunities of long-term peace with the militants.
Samarai, an Iraqi and a former Muslim Brotherhood member, was the senior-most person after Osama bin Laden who went to Afghanistan in the 1980s to fight against the Soviets and he still lives in the region. Samarai is also known to have contacts in the Saudi Embassy in Pakistan for making contact with al-Qaeda.
Khawaja and Samarai tested the waters in North Waziristan and after believing they had achieved satisfactory results they made another trip in March, taking with them Colonel Ameer Sultan Tarrar, another former ISI official who is known as Colonel Imam. He is also called the father of the Taliban. However, a little-known group calling itself the Asian Tigers abducted them. Khalid was killed this month on suspicion of being a spy while Colonel Imam is still being held by the group.
A member of an al-Qaeda-linked Pakistani group told Asia Times Online, "We appreciated that backchannel move [by Khawaja and Samarai]. All mujahideen groups were happy at the prospect of reconciliation. Nobody would have been happy fighting a war inside Pakistan, but the process was sabotaged by the Asian Tigers. Everybody here is convinced that they were used, either willingly or unknowingly, by foreign powers that want an operation in North Waziristan at all costs."
He added that a gesture to this effect had been conveyed to Islamabad, that is, nobody wants a war with Pakistan, and if it was forced on the militants in North Waziristan it "would be an unfortunate event and it would be fought unwillingly".
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/LE21Df03.html
I see a connection with all these events where these foreign sponsored assets are trying to sabotage peace efforts in Pakistan. The dubious Asian Tigers killed Khalid Khawaja and then Sher Khan is killed and both were big advocates of doing peace deals with the militants.
jo log kehtay hain Tehreek e Insaaf ka koi ahmiyat nahin.
wohhi PTI kay logon ko marr rahay hain.
double standard .
"Ghar ko aag lag gayi ghar ke chiragh sey".
I have been long warning about this Taliban mafia as they do not listen to anyone. After their eviction from Swat area, talibans have moved to adjoining areas and still carrying attacks on public and anyone who attempts to work towards peace in the area. Imran has long been supporter of talibans and stressing peace talks with them. But talibans are mother of all evils and you cannot expect peace from them. Imran has long supported dialogues with Talibans but why doesn’t he become an intermediary between Talibans and Govt of Pakistan. Answer is he won’t do that because Talibans are insincere, cheater and untrustworthy even to their supporters.
An all-out operation is needed to get rid of talibans
aftab arif
Member
@ Sweettruth
I wish you would check your facts before you spout your nonsense! Imran has said many times that if the government gives him the Mandate he will under the constitution of Pakistan try to negotiate peace, anything is better then living in fear all the time, this insurgency will end in a political settlement, whether you do it today, tomorrow or in another 10 years time but sooner is much better to save us from further blood shed.
Would you also be in favour of an all-out operation against the Taliban(AKA MQM) in Karachi or is just for the Talibans in the North?
P.S. I am personally against all large scale military operations anywhere be it KP, FATA or Karachi
time
Blocked
I am baffled who killed Sher Khan and why? If Taliban did, why? Why were they annoyed? Of all the political forces PTI is among their biggest supporters.
If security forces did it, WHY? Was he supporting Talibans?
Or was it possibly some personal local feud that has nothing to do with politics?
LiberalKarachi
Member
If it is Talibans who killed him, then it looks like Imran Khan just experienced the bitter taste of his own medicine. I would like to see Imran Khan, along with the poor widow, go and NEGOTIATE with the killer.
insaftak
Member
@ liberal Karachi
MR. Sher Khan was himself part of Aman committee in Swat, trying to bring militants and Pak Fauj on negotiation table to bring peace in swat. Two people have been arrested and No one knows who was behind this assassination. The struggle to bring peace in Pakistan and get out of american war must go on. Both sides need to realize that they are making big mistakes killing their own country men.
achtung
Member
i surprise why imran khan give no statement for killing of his party member.
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@mods
thnx.
i surprise why imran khan give no statement for killing of his party member.
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Yes, Imran is S T U P I D because he has to learn from MQM's Boss.. ALTAF DON... who kills his own members and then ISSUE a statement and offer FATIHA!!!! MAY ALLAH give us all a chance to offer his FATIHA SOON!!!!
Does Imran have the guts to negotiate peace with Talibans? Answer is probably no. Imran has long been a strong supporter of taliban mafia but does not have guts to talk to them. No one can trust taliban mafia because they are liar, cheater and biggest killers of planet earth.
insaftak
Member
@ Sweettruth
Imran Khan did offer gov't to mediate between Talibans and gov't and received no response from gov't. No one supports taliban, however everyone wants to bring both sides on table to negotiate peace so we can move forward. Bombing the crap out of tribal areas or taliban bombing the crap out of big cities isn't the solution to our problem.
@insaftak
Tell your leader Imran to go and negotiate with Taliban mafia on his own but I bet he would not because he is also scared and knows too what happened to his own party worker Sher Khan and many others. Talibans are mother of all evils and they do not understand any decency or peace dialogue to end the fighting. We all want to see an end to this ongoing fighting but these people have been brainwashed by the AlQaeda ideology which is based on violence and intolerance.
Muslim religion has been hijacked by these fanatics who are doing greatest dis-service to Islam and Muslims.
insaftak
Member
@ sweettruth
Bombing the crap out of Tribal areas isn't going to help end the ideology of violence and intolerance. can you explain why the ideology of violence and intolerance prevalent in Karachi. the only way to combat this ideology is to provide a better education system and equal opportunities for everyone. Right now no one cares for the vast majority of people in pakistan which is fueling more violence and intolerance in every part of pakistan. Drop books/ footballs, cricket balls instead of drooping bombs.
@insaftak
Why don't you and Imran condemn suicide killings from Taliban mafia? Imran criticizes Govt and her policies after every suicide bombing and does not condemn Taliban killers. You guys at PTI have considerable sympathy for talibans but have you or Imran ever visited house of victims of Taliban bombing. Answer is no. What options does Govt have? Should Govt let suicide killers kill innocent people? Or Should Govt give up? These Taliban killers are blowing up schools and you are talking about providing education to them. Talibans are animals and they do not want peace. They want to take us to Stone Age.
A Sri Lankan Army style approach and determination are needed to eliminate talibans mafia from our country. This war may take longer but one day moderate majority will win and there will be no Taliban left in our country.
insaftak
Member
@ Sweettruth
No sane person would ever condone what Talibans are doing and No sane person should also condone indiscriminate bombing in Fata and Silence from our civilians and military leadership which refuses to do its constitutional duty to protect pakistani citizens from foreign aggression.
The ideology of violence and intolerance is also prevalent in karachi and it won't end by use of indiscriminate bombing or military operation. The only way to move forward is by providing education and equal opportunities to all. If we fail to do that then people will continue with the ideology of violence and intolerance.
@insaftak
No sane person should also condone indiscriminate bombing in Fata and Silence from our civilians and military leadership which refuses to do its constitutional duty to protect pakistani citizens from foreign aggression. "
What are you talking about? "Silence"? In case you haven't noticed MOST of the "indiscriminate bombing in Fata" (and ALL of it using big guns, nelicopter gunships, fighter jets) is being done by "our" military leadership and in cahoots with our civilian leadership.
I hardly call that "silence"!!!!
@time
"I am baffled who killed Sher Khan and why? If Taliban did, why? Why were they annoyed? Of all the political forces PTI is among their biggest supporters."
"Taliban did it" certainly does not make sense. Would it be too much if I pointed out "two unknown gunmen, riding motorcycle, opened fire" is not their style (see for example: Taliban blow up two 'spies'
I must raise the question: "Could it be MQM?"
In other news:
PPP’s MNA resigns over murder of coordinator
"Qadir Patel, a PPP’s member national assembly and Chairman of NA standing committee for Interior affairs, has announced resignation from two offices in a bid to register protest against killing of his coordinator Eidi Ameen Khaskheli and former councilor Abdul Ghani Bachani by unidentified gunmen on late Friday, Geo news reported.
According to police sources, the incident occurred when three unknown gunmen, riding motorcycle, opened fire resulting in deaths of Eidi Ameen Khaskheli and Abdul Ghani Bachani.
Both deceased were the activists of Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) while corpses have been moved to Civil hospital for autopsy, police sources confirmed to media.
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I don’t want to name terrorists who carried out assassination in order not to disrupt peace in Karachi, he noted....
aftab arif
Member
@ Nota
I don’t want to name terrorists who carried out assassination in order not to disrupt peace in Karachi, he noted....
And we are being given Lectures by they supporters that we somehow support the Taliban in they indiscriminate bombings, i see something profoundly wrong with them, when all we are saying is much killing has been done, we want peace NOW.
Bad news.. :(
waseemtahirk
Member
:(
my shweeeeet mamu jani is no more with us
:(
@waseemtahirk
sorry to hear about that so what have been found so far about this murder???did any investigation have started or still matter is pending on political reasons(we all know about Khaibar Pakhtunkuwa Govt.)
Did Imran condemn the killing of one of his party workers by the hands of taliban criminals or not?
If he didn't then Imran is bad and arrogant leader of a small pressure group. Imran's support for talibans is an undeniable fact and he would not like to go into details of investigation process lest it may incur displeasure of his talibans mates. Another Pakistani has lost his life at the hands of taliban killers.
It is very sad this slain man of PTI was trying to work for peace for his area and gunned down by Taliban mafia. My thoughts are with his family at this tough time.
When will our nation rise against Taliban mafia?
insaftak
Member
@ sweettruth,
You are so funny, lol at even suggesting or thinking that imran khan has not condemned Sher Khan's Murder. The nation will probably align itself with peaceful forces one day and get rid of talibans and MQM terrorists one day by providing people with education and equal opportunities. till then MQM and taliban terrorists will roam free and continue to kill.
@insaftak
You too are the recipient of Imran's daydreaming tablets. Your favourite leader first has to stand in a bye-election to test his popularity. Question is if you guys believe so strongly that Imran is very popular then why doesn't he stand as a candidate. Why chairman Imran is so scared of facing voters? You cannot win a seat using Internet fan club; face the reality and the reality is to bring change you have to start winning seats. How does PTI want to bring change? Through winning seats or through back door? Imran knows his due to his support for talibans, voters will reject him in every election. Even my 16 years old nephew thinks PTI is the political wing of Talibans. If Imran is not able to win a seat or even contest a seat then how other unknown PTI members can win a seat. Tell Imran to give tickets to ordinary workers like MQM does; so far all PTI tickets have gone to rejected ex-members of other parties.
awaisis
Member
@ SweetTruth,
In by elections some of the seats were alloted to other parties members, who joined PTI, but in 2008 (tickets) and in 2002 seats were alloted to common worker, working in the party, and same will be repeated in next general elections...Oh How desperate you are to find something against IK, So please think of another criticism...:)
rashidsaleem
Member
This is not the murder of just a political representative of a political party but it is a murder of someone indigenous to that land. Let it be any party but killing their representatives is something which could have harmful effects on democracy in the long run.
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