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Terrorism's real nature::View from Pakistan

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  1. wantinsaf
    Member

    It's a nice artcile which first appeared in 'The News'.
    Tuesday, May 25, 2010
    Saleem Safi

    The basic faults in the strategy against terrorism will make success in the war against terror irrelevant at best. While devising a strategy both the US and Pakistan have missed the point: it is a multi-dimensional problem. Al-Qaeda and the Taliban are fighting this war professionally and cover all fronts of the war, while the US and Pakistan are fixated on a single point of armed response to the threat. They ignore the ideological, social, political, economic and strategic aspects of the problem.

    Terrorism in the region sprouts from ideological and religious sentiments. Al-Qaeda and affiliates believe in a certain interpretation of the Islamic concepts of jihad, state, crusades, non-Muslims and killings of Muslims who support non-Muslims in this conflict. The Afghan war ended but the ideology survived for more than 30 years and a whole generation was brought up on this theology. Al-Qaeda has now shouldered the burden of propagating this ideology through mosque leaders, the internet, CDs and all other means of communications, not only in the region but in the whole world.

    Contrary to the ideology of Al-Qaeda and others, the traditional Islamic interpretations eulogise love for humankind, sympathy, peace, respect for life and property of every man and a belief in peaceful means of preaching and propagating Islam. The US and Pakistan needed to counter the Al-Qaeda through promotion of this true interpretations of the concepts of jihad, state, crusades and Muslim-non Muslim relations shared by an overwhelming majority of ulema. The majority of people who oppose Al-Qaeda's interpretation of Islamic concepts are either terrorised into silence or are indirectly used for promotion of that ideology. Only a few, though at the cost of huge threats to their lives, are fighting the Al-Qaeda ideology.

    This specific interpretation of jihad and state has formed the basis of Al-Qaeda's ideology. For instance, this ideology preaches that state authority or approval is not needed in waging jihad against infidels. Similarly, it advises its adherents that helping Muslims in trouble in any part of the world is not only necessary but an act of faith. Such thinking effectively negates the sanctity of nation-state boundaries. It is precisely in accordance with this thinking that the borders of Pakistan were opened for Afghans who were allowed to carry out their activities inside Pakistan. All mosques leaders faithfully played the role of advancing the Afghan cause. The arrival was facilitated for fighters from all over the world, including Osama Bin Laden and his top leadership, to come here with the financial and technical support of the US. Pakistan not only welcomed them as state guests, but also hailed them as heroes.

    This ideology also stipulates, as an act of faith, that evil should be put down with force. This thinking has permeated mainstream religious political parties attacks, which results in attacks on New Year's Eve parties, the defacing of signboards in Peshawar and many other incidents. This interpretation is still current among the majority of Muslims youths and in the general masses. They are convinced of its correctness. The same political and religious leaders who oppose Al-Qaeda and its affiliates at public platforms privately adhere to the same narrow interpretations of jihad, state and Islam. Resultantly, an overwhelming majority of people in Afghanistan and Pakistan support Al-Qaeda's struggle against the US and allies.

    In Pakistan, the mainstream political parties are not only convinced of this interpretation, but also propagate and preach this ideology. The faith and Islamic knowledge of those who disagree with this ideology are questioned even by mainstream religious elements. So here a dilemma, unanswered to-date, arises as to why the preachers and propagators of this ideology are not targeted while those who practice it are chased till death or incarceration in this "crime"? In this situation, how could these militants be defeated?

    When it comes to the US, not only the religious parties but also the mainstream secular political parties are propagating the view (which is true to some extent) that the US and allies are the worst enemies of Islam. The intentions of the US and its allies towards Pakistan are also not good. In the Islamic world, not only the common man but the majority of the elite holds this view. In the Arab world, the elites in government hail the US as an ally, but after retirement or in private conversations they would call the US an enemy of Islam. This line of thinking gives rise to sentiments of hate and revenge against the US and its allies, which are exploited by the militants for their own purposes.

    For the last nine years, the US ignored all calls for improving its image in the Muslim world and reconsideration of the repercussions of its policies that strengthen these views. On the other hand, Al-Qaeda and the militants are skilfully exploiting this environment against the US and its allies through all possible means.

    In Pakistan, the sentiments against the US are running high. Therefore, any government seen close to the US cause as a frontline state is least expected to get public support in the campaign against Al-Qaeda and the militants. And as the latter groups, in the public view, is leading a campaign against the US and its allies, the majority of people are least interested in helping the Pakistani security forces and the government in this fight against militants.

    Posted 2 years ago on 26 May 2010 7:11 #
  2. wantinsaf
    Member

    Why people belonging to FATA are arguing that military operation alone can not solve the problem?It even has worsened the situation.
    We had better try to listen people of FATA and try to come up with an effective solution for this multi-dimensional problem.
    We need to listen our conscious,not USA which is taking us for granted and inferior.

    Posted 2 years ago on 26 May 2010 18:56 #
  3. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    US President Ronald Regan hosted a reception to the Afghan militants in White House and introduced them to the press by saying,"They are the heroes of the century".

    They were heroes of the century for America as long as they were benefiting the interests of the USA. Now they are somehow harming the interests of the USA, so they are now introduced as terrorists.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 6:36 #
  4. I do feel bad about disagreeing, but the article is not nice, it's yet another piece of West propaganda. From where I am standing, I see no terrorists, no al-Qaeda. What I do see is State terrorism on a grand scale. I see martyred Muslim peoples fighting with every ounce of their strength to free their countries from the clutches of the hardened criminal West powers which have returned to our lands to rob us of our resources once again, because their own ill-gotten wealth is nearing its long-deserved end.

    Why do we keep repeating the West clichés about how these wars are all about keeping terrorists in check? The West is not our friend. Never has been and never will be.

    I wholly agree with the sentence: we should listen to our conscience not USA.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 7:40 #
  5. truthisbitter
    LalBichooRedscorp

    Mirza Ghalib,

    --From where I am standing, I see no terrorists, no al-Qaeda.--

    Really ????
    Tell us where are you standing ?

    Why can't you see suicide bombings in Pakistan, Afgahnistan, and Iraq ?
    Why can't you see destruction of hundreds of schools by Taliban ?
    Why can't you see beheadings in Pakistan and Afghanistan by Taliban and in Iraq by Al-Qaeeda ?

    Tell us who do you think Naek Mohammad, Abdullah Mehsud, Baitullah Mehsud, Hakeemullah Mehsud and Qari Hussain are ???
    What do you think about Osama, Aiman uz Zawaharee, and Zarqavi ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 7:47 #
  6. Truthisbitter

    He is standing at a place where only those can listen his voice, whose heart are young

    try to read his word by the eye of heart not by the ordinary eye

    """"""Why can't you see suicide bombings in Pakistan, Afgahnistan, and Iraq ?""""""""""

    who is behind suicide bomings in Pakistan Afganistan and Iraq, not the Taliban but its Zionists and Jews lobby

    This is a large game.

    """""""""""Why can't you see destruction of hundreds of schools by Taliban ?"""""""""""""""""

    what is proof that they are Taliban??????????????

    """""""""""""""""""""""""""Tell us who do you think Naek Mohammad, Abdullah Mehsud, Baitullah Mehsud, Hakeemullah Mehsud and Qari Hussain are ???
    What do you think about Osama, Aiman uz Zawaharee, and Zarqavi ?""""""""""""""""""""""""""

    No one really know who r they, but they are not Taliban,

    They are may be agents working for Money to stop the struggle for Khilafa

    Now Who r The Taliban

    Taliban

    Now can u tell my

    Why suicide Bombing is only in Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan???????????

    why there is peace in the rest of World??/

    Taliban are poor people with strong faith

    fighting a crusader war in Afghanistan against the Army of Jews and Christian.

    and u will see they will not lose.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 8:08 #
  7. rashidsaleem
    Member

    Terrorism is a multi-dimensional problem and it has to be fought on many fronts at the same time. Fighting the ideology which led to the creation of these terrorists is as important as fighting the armed militants. Pak army through its operations will be able to eliminate the threat once but then it becomes the responsibility of civil society groups, media and public to refute ideologies and mind-sets which push a man to these limits.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 8:34 #
  8. ali-pk
    Member

    @truthisbitter
    isn't this funny that you don't see American kaffirs invading afghanistan/iraq. Obviously, how can one see when he sees thru an american eye.

    All this so called suicide bombings/beheadings etc., started only after the american devil invaded afghanistan. Afghan Talibans are fighting an invading force which is legitimate and so there's no logic in bringing them in this discussion.

    As regards TTP, most of them are victim of Pak army selling out for $$$$$$$, almost all of them have lost family members. So it's no rocket science to understand their reaction. Your own agencies says that RAw/Cia supports them, so please do take out some time to criticise their supporters.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 8:54 #
  9. ali-pk
    Member

    double post.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:04 #
  10. truthisbitter
    LalBichooRedscorp

    ali-pk,

    --isn't this funny that you don't see American kaffirs invading afghanistan/iraq.--

    I not only see but also condemn America for the mess in Afghanistan and Pakistan !
    America was behind Afghan Fisaad in 1980's and It was America which created Taliban monsters who are now killing innocent Afghans and Pakistanis !

    --All this so called suicide bombings/beheadings etc., started only after the american devil invaded afghanistan. --

    This is factually incorrect as first suicide-bombing occured in Pakistan in 1995 !!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_the_Egyptian_Embassy_in_Pakistan

    ---Afghan Talibans are fighting an invading force which is legitimate and so there's no logic in bringing them in this discussion.---

    Afghan Talibans took control of Afghanistan by force and with support from Pak Army, in my opinion they were not legitmate rulers of Afghanistan and only two countries recognised their government !!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:17 #
  11. psycho, dear psycho, You said it even better than I could ever have done. Thousand thanks. Not a word would I change and nothing to add.

    Just one more thing I rarely see mentioned. Killing women, children, innocents, bombing mosques and schools and market places indiscriminately, these are highly un-Islamic acts. No person calling himself a real Taliban would ever be caught dead doing such a thing. Ergo, these are once again more of the same, the servants of State terrorism.

    BUT rashidsaleem and truthis bitter should not feel we'll not be pondering over their words as well.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:19 #
  12. truthisbitter
    LalBichooRedscorp

    Mirza Ghalib,

    Tell us do you condemn suicide bombings in Markets, Mosques/Imambargahs, and Hospitals ???
    Don't tell us that Blackwater or RAW is behind suicide-bombings as every Pakistani knows where suicide-bombers are trained and what their ideology is !!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:24 #
  13. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @truthisbitter: I don't! condemn these suicide bombings. I call it poetic justice.

    People of Pakistan have been doing injustice with their fellow Pakistanis' for over 6+ decades!!. They have denied justice to people all over the country over 6+ decades. They have shown no interest, no concern in doing justice with their fellow Pakistanis' over the course of the last 6+ decades.

    What credibility do they have after that, to claim their! life has more sanctity than those innocent citizens of Pakistan who are being mercilessly murdered with these! people's consent through military operations, which are being conducted on behest of foreign powers/entities ?

    If and when people of Pakistan give importance to justice, if and when people of Pakistan adhere to principle of 'justice for all', at that time these events of suicide bombings would vanish into thin air.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:30 #
  14. Truthisbitter

    """""""""""""""""Tell us do you condemn suicide bombings in Markets, Mosques/Imambargahs, and Hospitals ???""""""""""""""""

    Can u tell me that a muslim can do this.?????????????????

    what do u suppose??????????

    A muslim how may his faith is poor can't do this,,

    This is purely a game like 9/11 attack

    and Obama is also necon zionist

    in the hand of jews

    Obama a wolf in sheep's clothing

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:34 #
  15. wantinsaf
    Member

    Undoubtedly some pakistanis and Muslims are involved but we have little or no idea that civil war we have started in our country where it is going to lead us.Pakistan so far has been the loser in the whole game primarily due to incompetency of the leaders and working on 'do more,pay more mantra'.
    We have kept making mistakes and our enemy has always taken advantage of that.India and Israel are the happiest at the moment and seen praising Pakistan these days.
    Civil war can only benefit our enemy,then why are we drifting towards civil war?We need to show Muslims 'we are Muslims' and we need to have faith in God,not Amrika Bahader.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:36 #
  16. achtung
    Member

    "I don't! condemn these suicide bombings. I call it poetic justice"

    yes, a terrorist will not condemn terrorism

    "This is purely a game like 9/11 attack"

    and still you not condemn it.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:37 #
  17. ali-pk
    Member

    @truthisbitter
    there's no such thing as fasad in 80's, this view is presented by the liberal fascists in our country.

    I'm expecting a mature response, i asked abt the wave of suicide bombing after 9/11 and you quoting me an isolated incident from 90's.

    you are saying as if we have a history of elections in Afghanistan, that's how it goes there. and the legitimacy of any gov doesn't depend on shaitans (US-europe) recognising it.

    as i said, you agencies say that RAw/Cia supplies weapons/money to these ppl. Please Condemn them.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:37 #
  18. "Killing women, children, innocents, bombing mosques and schools and market places indiscriminately, these are highly un-Islamic acts. No person calling himself a real Taliban would ever be caught dead doing such a thing."

    Taliban in swat were doing all these UN-Islamic acts, but I did not hear a word of condemnation from taliban supporters. Anyway the main problem IMO is some people's lack of ability or lack of knowledge to differentiate between afghan taliban and Pakistani taliban such as TTP (who are supported by raw/cia for multiple purposes and the main purpose being to destabilize Pakistan). Outfits such as TTP have really damaged the cause of Afghani freedom, and yet the people shouting GO-AMERICA-GO end up supporting these outfits, merely because they share the same misinterpreted version of ISLAM, or merely because they share their hatred for Pakistan.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:38 #
  19. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @achtung: Is that the best you can do i.e., take statements out of context, in order to deceive people ? You don't have any credibility around here.

    Why should anyone believe the likes of you ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:39 #
  20. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @UmeR: Do I hear condemnation from you for injustice done to citizens of Pakistan, other! than yourself, over the course of the past 6+ decades ?

    Did you show any type of concern over it .. ever ?

    What credibility do you have to talk in this regard ?

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:41 #
  21. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    These suicide bombings are a result of decades of internal injustice, which has now reached a tipping point such that foreign entities started exploiting the situation for their gains in the years around 2000-2001.

    Do justice, and all this nonsense will end right now.

    Don't do justice, and this will continue for all! eternity.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:43 #
  22. achtung

    "Neocons are dumb, stupid animals (who think they are God's gift to the world)
    to be used as pawns for Illuminati global domination"

    u don't know about his

    Binyamin"Bibi" Netanyahu------------- Architect of 9-11

    Prime Minister of Israel - Ruler of the United States of Israel. American-educated hard-line former prime minister of Israel, is probably the most conspicuous architect of terrorism and the so-called "War on Terror." Netanyahu, a Jabotinsky Zionist of the right wing Likud party, published a book in 1986 entitled Terrorism: How the West Can Win in which he laid out precisely the blueprint for what has become the "War on Terror" in Iraq and Afghanistan. Netanyahu's book, and its seriously flawed and racist thesis, has been rewritten, reprinted, and propagated ad nauseam. C.B.

    So we condemn Jews and Zionists who are playing the game not the muslim

    go and do some research

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:45 #
  23. @ Hariskhan

    "What credibility do you have to talk in this regard ? "

    I guess, I don't. Anyway how much will it cost for me to get a certificate from mansoora, so that I have the credibility to share my opinions?

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:46 #
  24. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @UmeR: You don't need any certificate from me or a certain group of people or Mansoora.

    You need certificate from millions of citizens of Pakistan, for whom you have shown no concern what-so-ever. Yet you have! shown! belligerence against their well-being.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:47 #
  25. @ hariskhan

    so you think the people who are the victim of this injustice are exempted from the laws of Islam?

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:48 #
  26. psycho
    That was a good one. Appreciated. We should investigate and condemn the root cause of terrorism.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:48 #
  27. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @UmeR: You don't support or propagate more! injustice to end already existing injustice.

    You do justice to end injustice.

    This is exactly why Muhammad (SAW) emphasized on conducting investigations before! taking decisions, before! taking actions. It can be noted from many hadees.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:49 #
  28. Here is more proof for those who blindly believe in Media

    Richard Bruce "****" Cheney-------------Former Vice Resident, Key Role in the Planning of 9-11

    Illuminati and a founding member of PNAC. Capitol Hill's resident hawk-in-chief, is a PNAC founding member and was on Jinsa's board of advisors. The Vice-Resident was defense secretary under Bush I and was calling for Saddam's head for over a decade. He was chairman and CEO of oil company Halliburton, the corporate behemoth. Halliburton's subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root has secured contracts worth up to $7 billion from the US army's Corp of Engineers to put out oil well fires in Iraq. He is a trustee of the American Enterprise Institute and has had numerous oil interests. He has links to Chevron, for whom he negotiated the building of an oil pipeline from the Caspian Sea. Chevron's CEO Kenneth Derr once said: "Iraq possesses huge reserves of oil and gas -- reserves I'd love Chevron to have access to.'' **** Cheney's wife Lynne sat on the board of Lockheed Martin, which manufactures Cruise missiles and now has a $800 million military satellite which will help troops in Iraq. Cheney was complicit in Senator Wellstone's death. Cheney was in charge of the entire military and the secret service during the 9/11 attacks, and was most likely the chief architect of the 9/11 attack.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:51 #
  29. thanks semirza

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:52 #
  30. achtung
    Member

    psycho bhai

    "go and do some research"

    i never asked for advise from you

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:52 #
  31. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @UmeR: It is Hadees of Muhammad to not take sides in a conflict where two Muslims or two groups of Muslims fight among each other. Not untill justice has been served according to standards of Islam.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:52 #
  32. achtung

    Prove ur selve if u are true

    Bring a reliable proof for Blaming the Taliban,

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:53 #
  33. wantinsaf
    Member

    @Umer

    No doubt terror activities are condemnable,if talibans are wrong it doesn't make USA right,does it?
    You are foolishly ignoring the role USA has been playing in this war against terror.It is paying us,but for what?It is leading us,but for what?why have they sent Balckwater in pakistan?And our dilemna is we have allowed them.
    Now we need to reverse all this and that all can be done listening to concious and standing on own feet.Breavey and self respect is deeply required.We had better work on that otherwise there is no future to us?

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:53 #
  34. @ hariskhan

    This is not what we were discussing. What I need to know is, suppose if my family is killed because of American oppression, do I have the right to kill my fellow Muslims in order to resister my protest or to just vent my anger, because I cannot target american forces?

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:54 #
  35. achtung
    Member

    psycho bhai

    taliban themselves proved what they are

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:56 #
  36. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @UmeR: I will repeat -> decades! of injustice of our! own! people! .. with! our! own! people! has resulted in what is happening in Pakistan, in Swat and other places today.

    Where there is justice in between people i.e., justice within the state, within the people;

    (1) there is calm in society
    (2) there is prosperity among people
    (3) foreign entities have no chance of taking advantage
    (4) etc etc

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:57 #
  37. Now what is This Gamer for Necon Zionist

    This will show u the True Agenda for War

    THE WAR FOR ISRAEL
    (and you thought the oil was for the U.S.)

    You are looking at the reason for the war against Iraq. This war was initiated by Ariel Sharon for Israel's strategic benefit!

    Thats what Israel does. It has its intelligence organization, Mossad, carry out false flag operations and deceives others into attacking their enemies. In short they get others to fight their wars for them.

    Israel is in the midst of its plan to use the United States military, which it controls, to conquer Iraq and divert Iraqi oil to the Haifa refinery via the Mosul to Haifa pipeline. The U.S. has built airbases at H1, H2 and H3 (which stand for Haifa 1, 2 and 3) to protect this strategic pipeline. The pipeline is used to send oil to Israel. Paid for with the blood of American soldiers that die in Iraq. See:

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:58 #
  38. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @UmeR: You have a right to kill your own people.

    Why ? Because they! supported that! oppression against you as well as your family, without investigating, without learning why you were subjected to that oppression.

    It was gross level injustice, gross/criminal level negligence of sanctity of your life, of your family's life, of your well-being, of your family's well-being.

    Islam has a golden rule of justice i.e., eye for an eye, nose for nose, blood for blood.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:59 #
  39. achtung

    Did they Phone u??????????

    Don't blame them by watching the videos on Liar Media.

    Media is Lair

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 9:59 #
  40. @ wantinsaf

    "No doubt terror activities are condemnable,if talibans are wrong it doesn't make USA right,does it?"

    Well, did I ever say that or hint towards this in any of my posts? In-fact, this is what I've always been saying, that neither does america's oppression justify talibans criminal activities and nor does talibans acts justify american oppression.

    "Now we need to reverse all this and that all can be done listening to concious and standing on own feet.Breavey and self respect is deeply required.We had better work on that otherwise there is no future to us?"

    No disagreement here.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 10:00 #
  41. achtung
    Member

    psycho bhai

    what a question?

    Did they Phone u??????????

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 10:01 #
  42. hariskhan,

    what I am saying is, even if this is happening all because of decades of injustice, it doesn't make it right, does it?

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 10:01 #
  43. wantinsaf
    Member

    @Umer
    Why support USA which kills Pakistani?
    Look at the both side of picture.
    Why we are being targetted is our rulers lust for dollar,we had better get rid of that first.Our lust for dollar is not condenmable but someone else's revenge is condemnable.

    We all need to show character.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 10:01 #
  44. achtung

    only answer the question don't look on question

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 10:02 #
  45. psycho, you know what it's all about, I know what it's all about. How come the others don't? Don't they read the same things we do? Well, never mind.

    I just want to point out one small thing. Someone mentioned India and Israel above. About India, little comes out about it in the mainstream media but, in spite of all their great allies, it's not doing too brightly either. It's separatists groups have now begun joining up. Look out India, soon we'll be hearing about you too on a daily basis. Ditto Israel, the more it hits out at Gaza, the worse it grows in the eyes of the world. We'll be hearing about them too. As Pakistan rises, they'll be going down.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 10:02 #
  46. @ hariskhan

    "You have a right to kill your own people."

    WOW!

    "Why ? Because they! supported that! oppression against you as well as your family, without investigating, without learning why you were subjected to that oppression."

    if any wrong happens to my family because of taliban, I am gonna find you, and then *(#&$*(#&$(*&#.

    Because you supported them, and I don't think you'd have any problem with that, would you?

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 10:04 #
  47. Mirza Ghalib

    Pakistani's Atomic Power is only threat to Isreal for their Plan of Greater Isreal,

    Note Pakistan and Israel are only Two Ideological State required on idea of religion

    and after the creation of Pakistan, the Isreali president addressed to his beloved follower, that I do not want to see this country longer

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 10:05 #
  48. "Double post"

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 10:06 #
  49. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @UmeR: If I support injustice, yes, you or anyone else who is a victim of that injustice has all the right to do it.

    I will repeat: Islam has a golden rule of justice i.e., eye for an eye, nose for nose, blood for blood.

    That is the best! standard of justice.

    However, you, the victim, also have the ability to forgive me for it. Even then, it will be your! decision i.e., the person who is victim of injustice.

    Not anyone else. Not mine. Not an AAlim, not a head of state, not any powerful man, not a man of money, status or whatever else.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 10:21 #
  50. Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Islam's standard of justice leaves it upon the ones who are victims of injustice to forgive those who commit injustice against them.

    Otherwise, the punishment is final!.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 May 2010 10:23 #

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