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Terrorists attack on PNS Mehran Base(karachi)(140 posts)
Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 19:57 #
KARACHI: Pakistan Naval Shipping (PNS) Mehran Base, a heavily guarded facility of Pakistan Navy located along Shahrah-e-Faisal, has come under a terrorist attack, Federal Interior Minister Rehman Malik said on Sunday.
He said terrorists have launched an armed attack on PNS Mehran while the security forces and army personnel are retaliating terrorists, he said.
The minister said that the attack has been countered to a large extent and the security forces have placed strict cordon around the area.
A big fire is still raging at the site, which the firefighters are trying to douse.
Following the attack, PM Yousuf Raza Gilani phoned Interior Minister and inquired about the situation.
Geo News correspondent said that reportedly 10 terrorists have attacked on PNS Mehran with hand grenades while the gunshots are still being heard from inside.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=15943Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 19:58 #
Did anyone notice the navy installation has been attacked quite a bit lately. There were a couple of attacks on Navy buses and now this.
It appears to me the Navy is being given or is planning to start some project/operation and terrorists obviously dont like it.Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 20:01 #
The Yankee plan is unfolding full fledge. The army has been downgraded in the eyes of the public, fighting on our western borders and the evergreen threat hanging over the head from the east. It's very worrying and we should be quite careful to attack our army (in general). I know it's double edged sword, but still I urge everyone to to be careful.Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 20:02 #
Navy is loved by "them"Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 20:07 #
not much sure but some news channels were reporting that the actual target was american ships .if so then the situation could be more terrible and the american will have a solid (so called) reason to take the matters in their own hand as they were already looking for some excuses:(Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 20:08 #
all responsbilities on those who called this is our war,
one serious truth, we visit paf museum some days ago no one check out us even our vhicle.
leackage of security of sensitive areas..
10 to 12 armed person enter thats mean they travel on road of karachi then enter this area where is police rangers, who check out common persons in roads and collecting money.
need army operation in karachi search out every each home building personsPosted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 20:33 #
No not sad, jihad kullay wajib Jihad
ahh the Lies is here, This is our war
the terrorist militant outfits on our soil must be uprooted and chucked into the sea
all Jaish, Lashkars, Sipahas et all must be terminated and siposed, it is our war becuse we ant our land free from terroistsPosted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 20:52 #
what about shia lashkar of para chanar khurram agencies,
what about bahrain protest by shia around the world but not protest for muslims of libya iraq afghanistan pakistan tunish syria yemen
what about rule of iran in war against terror
usa decrees rules for iranian visa,
much more evidences proved of involment of iran and shia how protect us and allies and how get benefits we can seen in iraq yemen kuwait pakistan afghanistan bahrain plastinePosted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 20:58 #
where the hell is Mr kiyani that jhoota polisher, he needs to take care of the situation, it is only a few of them. This army is useless.Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 21:01 #
@ Not Possible and truths
Be careful, both of you are playing into the hands being played by enemies of Islam.Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 21:04 #
not possibles whole comments see and decite whats mind of not possible we here discuss on pns mehran attach and not possible turn it to religious differences as in past all comments of not possible samePosted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 21:06 #
Utter failure of our military and ISI.
Our security establishment is only good at making money, not good at protecting the country or even themselves.Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 21:30 #
its an inside help which enabled them to hit the core of the PNS base.Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 21:41 #
I fully agree with Not Posible!
This is our war and we have to win this war against terrorism and hijacking of our religin by few religious thugs.Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 21:44 #
Whose war did we fight during Afghan Fasad of the 80's??
How many dollars did we collect during that Fasad?
Why no one objected that war?Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 21:48 #
How much Dollars did Jamat Islami collect to suppy young Jihadis for Afghan Fasad?
How much money did our Generals collect to prolong that Fasad of the 80's which is still continuing today?Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 21:52 #
Why no one objected that war?
Because Russian target was warm waters which meant they were headed to Pakistan. It was in Pakistans interest to push the russians back.
This is terrible news. Not just the attack but that P-C3 Orion aircrafts, a couple of them, have been completely destroyed. This is million of dollars going up in flames. I guess this is a 50 million dollar kee duzz right their!
Pasha is being pushed to the wall. They want him to resign. First Abbotabad, now this.
This is terrible and this is Blackwater. Blackwater is HQ'd in Karachi. The fight is being taken to isolate the armed forces.
Action is required. Swift action. Call for mid-terms. Get in people who are not controlled by strings and then get out of this war.
What incentive does TTP have to attack PN? They should have rather gone to Malir Cantt. This is not TTP. This is XE.
No more waiting.Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 21:57 #
PTT usually attack Political, Diplomatic and Military spots all around Pakistan and in Karachi US Consulate had been their Primary target.....Since almost all Pakistani Bases have Foreigners working especially Chinese and Americans so that is why their role is Highly suspected.....Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 22:05 #
@scandinavian.......second you my man...you are spot on..!
abhee kal he mera aik bhai pkpolitics par keh raha thaa k we cant safeguard our nukes...so give it to fu*(*N yanks....so here you go....this is whd they want...this is whd our establishment wants....so thts it....We cant safeguard our own boundaries...so...WE need...THR (US) help...!!
abay yaar...wahan chirya par naee maar saktee....itnay log kaisay andar ghuss gaye...100% establishment + andar k log...!!
@abytude...i like yer plan....if it happens though :)Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 22:21 #
NotPossible,sweetruth,sipahi doing the same job....Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 22:48 #
In my view it is an act of madness from brainwashed militants who have now attacked Naval base to take revenge of world's biggest terrorist Osama Bin Ladin.
Our security is so weak and laid back that anyone can attack any building anywhere in Pakistan.
More news is on BBC:
Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13495127Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 23:01 #
Navy is a step child in the forces so Kiyani keeping it cool for FC and series of attacks on the Navy, until the elder brother (army) is stormed.Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 23:01 #
Now nation has to decide what they want to choose:
Ideology of Osama Bin Ladin
Elimination of all terroristsPosted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 23:02 #
Rehman Malik should resigned, as well as some one from our Intelligence forces should take responsibility.... how come 10-15 guys can attack high security areas.
its not first time attacks on GHQ, Navy base or such high sensitive areas are under attack for long but no one in government taking responsibility of this failuresPosted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 23:30 #
Question is that why such a sensitive installation is doing within city limits at all?
If someone remembers in 1997 , when NS just started his second term , a PAF plane having taken off from masroor , bombamded Liaqtabad with its fule tanks on the pretext that it has failure of supply and it had to unload fuel , at that time this question was also raised and most credible airforce x-chiefs like asghar khan and nur khan both said that such installations should be moved out of city.
But since our BAHDUR FAUJ is in love with precious urban land, no such thing can materialize.
Just imagine , had this attackers targeted a ammuniation depot like Ojri camp , what would have been the result. On one side of this is Shah Faisal Colony , on the other side is karsaz , KDA-1 , M A Jinnah , PECHS ? Just imagine .Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 23:53 #
"Rehman Malik should resigned"
Very true if the secuirty of these bases comes under civil :)Posted 2 years ago on 22 May 2011 23:54 #
Now nation has to decide what they want to choose:
Ideology of Osama Bin Ladin
Elimination of all terrorists
.. nation has to decide if it still wants to harbour Blackwater/ XE.
It has nothing to do with Bin Laden.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 0:02 #
black water came after 2001. right ?
Then who is repsonsible ?Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 0:06 #
Another humiliation for Pakistan Army. Few more incidents like this and the world will be asking to take over Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.
On a side note, we hope this Pakistan Military Inc will save us when time come where as they cant defend themselves...Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 3:11 #
we hope this Pakistan Military Inc will save us when time come where as they cant defend themselves...
well Said Dusky :)Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 3:56 #
US directed and produced 'Taliban Drama' finally in its last stages.
they wanna achieve their ultimate goal of taking over Pakistani Atomic plant .
by creating situations like that .
they will say if your Naval base can be attacked so is your atomic plant too.
give your atomic plant in our custody.
Naval base attacks..
ultimate goal to achieve.
Atomic assets of Pakistan.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 5:17 #
seems like Attack is linked with this news
China to take control of Gwadar Port
Defence Minister Ahmed Mukhtar said that China has agreed to take control of operations at the Gwadar Port.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/173283/china-to-take-control-of-gwadar-port/Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 5:35 #
It seems more like factional fight going on within fundamentalist and liberal factions of "BAHDUR FAUJ"Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 5:38 #
wake upppppp! The abbotabad operation was enough to show that if US wanted the nuclear assets they can do so with out our Army even knowing of it.
The fact is that this army is too busy running shadi halls and making plots all the while awarding themselves medals and they have no clue how to fight.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 5:42 #
all the politics aside.
we are going through a 'Do and Die' situation now.
you cant just leave it by only cursing armed forces.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 5:50 #
Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 5:51 #
We curse politicains and political process for every misdeed our "BAHDUR FAUJ" has done but unfortunately people like u have an issue when finger is rightly pointed to "MUQADAS GAAEY"
May i know that who brought & trained these people in 80's and 90's ? Was it u , me or any civilian ?
Who is fond of strategic depth concept ? u , me or some MUQADAS GAEEY ?
If today my father can't pray in the mosque because our mosques have become unsafe , my sister/mother can't go to market because our markets are unsafe , my children can't go to a playground because our playgrounds are unsafe , who is responsible ?
Only those are responsible who have been harbouring , training and minting $$$ from these . And it was no one else but our "BAHDUR FAUJ" , starting from Gen.Zia / akhtar abdul rehman to mushraf / kiyani / pasha.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 6:10 #
Foreign games are being played on our blood and soil. Foreign aid is more dangerous than the disease of AIDS.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 6:20 #
i have told you a number of time that i am not a supporter of armed forces.
but we should see sometimes the broader picture of the scheme of things by keeping aside our prejudices against any particular segment of society.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 6:49 #
We need to fix our house first. Call the culprit a culprit without any prejudice , do an accountablity of misdeeds and give the rightful people their right.
Till the time masses of this country are treated as "BLOODY CIVLIANS" and their elected representatives are kept away (On gunpoint) from policy making , this cohaos will continue.
We need to trust our masses and their collective oponion.
In this hour of crisis , which has been caused by "BRAVE ARMY" u r asking to strengthen the culprits , we need to strengthen the masses, the nation not someone who is solely responsible for this choas.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 7:05 #
Our army is no doubt brave and competent. The problems are not with the soldiers up to the level of colonels. The problems are with the soldiers promoted above colonel levels on the basis of nepotism or lobbying.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 7:11 #
Hussain Farooqui Bahi,
We have seen their bravery against the civilains mulitple times whether it was lush green Bengal or deserts of sind & balochistan or urban areas of Khi/hyderabad.
But , unfortunely , we have also seen the surrender of 90000 which was biggest ever (at that time ) since 2nd world war.
So , yeh bahduri kii dastaanian suntey suntey hamarey baal safeed ho gaaey haain. leave them aside.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 7:15 #
pakistan should be renamed!.... thts the only way pakistan can get rid of this humiliation..... FU ziaulhaq!Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 7:16 #
BTW,what public representatives are you talking about?
those,who are sitting in their lodges and has zero sense of responsibility towards their voters ?Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 7:16 #
I think changing name will not help us. Changing of the system will be a really difficult job, but that has to be done essentially.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 7:19 #
Public representaives assman say nahi uttrain gaaey. They have to be a product of system / process. GHQ kaay gaamloon mein aaisi hi makhlooq ugti haai.
It was not your or mine choice that GHQ refuses to transfer power to mujeeb.
It was not your or mine choice that GHQ decides to form IJI to mainuplate masses verdict.
it was not your or mine choice that GHQ forces elected PM to resign even after restoration by SC (remember NS case 93)
It was not your mine choice that GHQ forms PIF in 93.
It was not your or mine choice that GHQ forms MMA in 2002 .
Akhar kaahan saay aaaey gaa politician ?
Trust the masses, trust their collective wisdom and they are more intelligent than an pesudo intellectuals.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 7:27 #
@ beenai: when army is weak, people such as you say that now is not the right time to criticize a sensitive national institution and when it is in a strong position anyone doing so is abducted, so it is now or never.
Defence budget should be brought into parliament, civilians should be appointed as secretary defence and head of ISI and the entire officers cadre infect the entire armed forces should take a lie detector test as to where their loyalties lie. While lie detectors can be fooled it will give us a farely reasonble idea nonetheless.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 7:45 #
KARACHI: The Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan claimed responsibility on Monday for a brazen attack on a Karachi naval base that has claimed five lives and destroyed naval aircraft, saying the carnage was to avenge the death of Osama bin Laden.
�It was the revenge of martyrdom of Osama bin Laden. It was the proof that we are still united and powerful,� Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan said by telephone from an undisclosed location.
A spokesman said that the team of militants they sent into Karachi s PNS Mehran naval base on Sunday night had enough supplies to survive a three-day siege.
"They have enough ammunition and food and they can fight and survive for three days," Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan said.
He said up to 22 militants were assigned to launch the attack. Accounts are unclear, but up to five militants may have been killed by Pakistani troops. The remaining are holed up in a building on the base exchanging fire with commandos.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 8:49 #
Please dont fall this pile of crap .. TTP claims responsibilty my foot!
This is Balckwater/XE/RAW with a clear target in mind. TTP knows sh*t abt Orion aircrafts! This was a focused effort to destroy the surveillance aircrafts.
TTP knows sh*t abt attacking PNS Mehran. Someone else with a more sophisticated network and equipment has broken through.
Had it been TTP, they would have at best attacked Lahore or Pindi. They wouldnt travel to Karachi to destroy orion aircrafts.
Karachi is the HQ of Blackwater/ RAW. RAW's assets have helped RAW establish with strenght here in Khi.
But I swear upon god this time it is enough. Should we find a shred of evidence of bharti involvement, we should bomb their f'in guts out instead of whining taliban taliban!
Kayani show some guts and send an armored brigade to delhi instead of hiding behind TTP.
THIS IS NOT TTP. Zimadari qabool kar li is a farce. What if i call from a fake SIM to Geo TV and say I am Tamil tiger chief and I claim responsibilty, would GEO play the ticker that it was Tamil tigers.
What the hell is undisclosed location say zimadari qabool kar li. Enough of the farce. Enough of dumping everything on Taliban. We need to get to the real hands behind these karaey k tattoo's.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 10:54 #
"What the hell is undisclosed location say zimadari qabool kar li. Enough of the farce. Enough of dumping everything on Taliban. We need to get to the real hands behind these karaey k tattoo's."
I second that. Let's see what comes to the surface, but I suspect a Yankee/India joint (ad)venture in this tragic event. Does our army have the courage to name these culprits (off course only if they have proofs)?Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 11:08 #
Wo charsi rehman Malik aya hai k Jee Taliban aur alqaeda Pakistan k dushman hain.
Sab say bara dushman to yeh na'soor khud hai.
They have proofs for everything scandinivian. They had proofs against bharti involvement in Balochistan and KPK. They never say it.
Allah SWT ko raazi kar k jihaad ki tyari karni chahiey. Phir Musalmano ka muqaddar Allah SWT kee zimadari.
Lekin yeh bogus parliament jis ko L nai pata khana kaha say hai hagna kaha say, in main itni jurrat nai thi k CIA k agent ko jail main ragar saktay. In say wo nai sambhala gaya aur in say umede lagai jaey k yeh Zionist agenday ko confront karain ge.
Sab say baray dehshatgard yeh khusray zardari gelani kayani aur sharif hain. Har dusra chor aaj hakumat main hai. wo b jo 3 rupay petrol barhnay pay asteefay detay hain aur 9 rupay barhnay pay wapis godh main chalaang lagatay hain. Yeh dusro k saath mil kar hami pay hamlay kartay hain aur naam badnaam hai Taliban ka.
Allah SWT inhe kuttay kee maut day. WC pay bethay hon aur heart attack aa jaey. Amin.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 11:47 #
"TTP knows sh*t abt attacking PNS Mehran. Someone else with a more sophisticated network and equipment has broken through."
Agree with you abytude, they are trying to confuse Pakistanis, same thing happen on Karachi Ashora blast, within minutes of Karachi Ashura blast Rehman Malik said, Taliban claimed the Ashora suicide attack responsibility, later police found it was a planted bomb.
Here is the media propaganda video after Karachi Ashora blast.
Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 11:57 #
This is a farce. The zimadari qabool karli is the biggest of all farce.
I am very interested in what verifications take place before a zimadari is squarely accepted and the blame transfered to taliban.
Next suicide attack ill take an unverified SIM, call ISPR and the interior ministry and claim to be from RAW and take responsibility of the attack.
Then lets see what ticker plays.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 12:42 #
"Next suicide attack ill take an unverified SIM, call ISPR and the interior ministry and claim to be from RAW and take responsibility of the attack.
Then lets see what ticker plays."
You will be wasting your money. They will still not register that. They will only register what fits in their script....It's MATCH FIXING!Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 12:47 #
According to eye witnesses reports, the militants acted in a calm and relaxed way, firing at intervals. They appeared to have complete knowledge of the base and frequently changed their position. Very much like the Mumbai attack, the militants were well-equipped with arms, ammunition, food and drink.
"It was shown several months ago that the Pakistan navy is vulnerable to Islamists when a marine commando unit official was arrested," the security official said. "He was a member of the Mehsud tribe from South Waziristan [tribal area] and was completely indoctrinated by militants. Naval Intelligence never shared the information with the ISI [Inter-Services Intelligence] or any other security agency that during interrogation he confessed that militants planned to attack installations during the visit of a foreign delegation. Now, they [intelligence] realize how the organization [navy] is riddled and vulnerable to the influence of militant organizations," the official said.
Pakistani security forces confirmed that at least three of these attacks were carried out by 313 Brigade led by Ilyas Kashmiri while the others were blamed on Pakistani militants trained by Kashmiri
After the September 11, 2001, attacks on the US, Pakistan's top brass took a policy turn and joined in the US's "war on terror", but a large chunk of officers took retirement and with serving colleagues they helped the Taliban. This changed the dynamics of the Afghan war theater (see Military brains plot Pakistan's downfall Asia Times Online, September 26, 2007).
This collection of former and serving officers was responsible for a number of attacks on the military, including on military headquarters in 2009 and against ex-president General Pervez Musharraf.
Now, this nexus could become active again to revive regional operations, in addition to a possible mutiny against the top military brass. (See Trouble ahead in Pakistan's new US phase May 18.)
Before the incident in Karachi, Asia Times Online was contacted by militants by telephone to confirm future attacks in the following words: "We don't want any trouble inside Pakistan or in the Pakistan army, but we do want to create an environment in which it would be conducive for pro-Islam and patriotic elements in the armed forces to dislodge incompetent and pro-American military officials."
This is the third attack on a naval installation in the past 30 days - two were launched before Bin Laden's assassination.
"The Pakistan navy constituted a high-level inquiry committee after their bases were targeted last month," a senior security official told Asia Times Online on the condition of anonymity. "The teams arrived to Karachi last month and asked for our input. They were wondering why militants were targeting the navy as they were not involved in any anti-terror operations. We told them that the navy's own staff were hand-in-glove in those two attacks," the official said.
Kashmiri's 313 Brigade, which was earlier focused on Afghanistan, has clearly now turned its sights on Pakistan, where Kashmiri is known to have powerful connections among retired and serving officials in the armed forces. More attacks are inevitable.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 12:48 #
Shall we the Pakistani Awam take this as a combined effort on the part of Pakistan Army top brass and the current ruling regime of Pakistan acting in collaboration with anti Pakistani forces, first being the USA who is in fact their paymaster?
What I see of this is another attack on sovereignty of Pakistan with the hidden agenda telling the whole world that Pakistan being a nuclear power is stuck up and cannot defend itself so the nukes should be taken off from Pakistan. Rehman Malik being the loudest mouth piece forwarding this propaganda to malign Pakistan.
Why not the awam from Sialkot take an initiative to hunt down and pickup Rehman Malik a low life from Ajaji village and dump him down the colonial dungeon 'known as Gora Jail' once and for all.
This would be a signal to the other sellouts from PPPP so actively involved to forward Bush/Mush agenda in Pakistan.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 13:10 #
yaahan parr loog / insan marr rahey haain pichley 30 saal saay aur aap ko nukes ki fikar pari howi haai ?
If "BAHDUR FAUJ" would ever use these nukes , it would be on civilians ?
Jaang meein yeh kitney paani mein hotey haain , u and me , both know very well.Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 13:14 #
Waiting for the next statement of "GHQ Khan" in which he will blame this on Nawaz Sharif !!!!Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 13:25 #
He wont blame this on Sharif. Aap nay badgumaani kee hai pyaray.
Such acts require b*lls. Sharif main itna dam nai. Baat baat pay shalwar gheeli karnay walay pay ham is magnitude k attacks ka ilzam nai laga saktay.
Agay banda dekh k baat kartay hain ham =)Posted 2 years ago on 23 May 2011 13:31 #
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