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The Obama speech and its consequences for Pakistan

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  1. The timetable for the withdrawal of American forces from Afghanistan that US President Barack Obama announced in his speech on the evening of June 22 was, as have been his previous decisions on troop levels in Afghanistan, an attempt to strike a balance between the demands of the military and domestic political compulsions engendered by a weak economy, and the presidential elections in November 2012.

    He has called for the withdrawal of 10,000 troops by the end of 2011 and for the remaining 23,000 of the surge he ordered in 2009, by the middle of 2012. His commanders had wanted that the initial withdrawal be no more than 5,000, and that too only because he had pledged that the withdrawal would commence in July 2011, with all further withdrawals being “condition based”. Up until the end, I believe, the military thought that he would allow the remaining 23,000 to stay until the end of 2012 but Obama’s political advisers, or perhaps his own sense of the public mood, dictated that he should be able to claim, as the election campaign entered its final phase in the autumn of 2012, that he had brought back all the soldiers he had sent out in December 2009.

    Given the political compulsions, these withdrawal figures must be seen as being cast in concrete. As a necessary corollary, troop contributions from other Isaf countries will also see a reduction not only in the 10,000-odd troops that comprised their ‘surge’ but will go well beyond, as Canadian and other contingents pull out. By the end of this year, foreign troop levels in Afghanistan will have declined to about 120,000 from the peak level of about 150,000. There had been a plan to move troops from south Afghanistan, after the current fighting season, to eastern Afghanistan. With the reduction in force levels though, this will not be possible.

    It is, therefore, likely that in 2012, or even earlier, the nature of the war will change even more dramatically in the direction that Vice-President Joe Biden had advocated from the start — more aerial attacks, more drones and, above all, more Special Forces operations. The core goal of the operations being, as Obama put it again in his speech, “no safe haven from which al Qaeda or its affiliates can launch attacks against our homeland or our allies”.

    Obama was quite blunt and one would say even threatening in how he viewed this. “Our efforts must also address terrorist safe havens in Pakistan.” He warned that “no country is more endangered by the presence of violent extremists, which is why we will continue to press Pakistan to expand its participation in securing a more peaceful future for this war-torn region. We will work with the Pakistani government to root out the cancer of violent extremism, and we will insist that it keep its commitments”. He concluded with the grim words that “so long as I am president, the United States will never tolerate a safe haven for those who aim to kill us: They cannot elude us, nor escape the justice they deserve”.

    There will, therefore, be a considerable enhancement in drone attacks on the Pakistan side of the border and increased Special Forces operations in eastern Afghanistan and more particularly in Paktia, Paktika and Khost, with ancillary activity in Kunar and Nuristan. There will be more outcries from Afghan President Hamid Karzai about the civilian casualties that these operations will inevitably cause and, on the Pakistan side, more fulminations about the violations of Pakistan’s sovereignty. There will be more pressure brought to bear for action against the Haqqani network and other groups in North Waziristan that, by all accounts, seems to be a non-starter for military and other reasons for our military brass.

    The recent attacks in Upper Dir, Kurram Agency and Mohmand by a sizeable number of militants — probably a mix of Afghan and Pakistani Taliban and the many foreign militants who have taken shelter and set up camps in the largely abandoned province of Nuristan — are significant. The American or Afghan military presence in the region is minimal but their reconnaissance facilities, including drones and tethered balloons, are such that it is difficult to believe that a 400-strong group could move across the border without being detected. Did the Americans share such information with us? On another plane, the recent action in Bajaur has invited protests from the Afghan about Pakistani artillery shells killing people in Afghan villages across the border and even empty rhetorical threats of retaliatory actions. Are the Afghan protests justified or are they something else? Do these developments put together become an ominous indicator of the direction in which things are moving?

    Obama has spoken of reconciliation and of joining initiatives that “reconcile the Afghan people, including the Taliban”. This is going to be a slow process even though there has been the encouraging development of the UN sanction list being revised to delist the Taliban that Karzai wishes to talk to. The problem on our border with eastern Afghanistan is, however, urgent and we should hasten the process there even while it proceeds at a snail’s pace elsewhere. If we believe, and President Karzai agrees, that Jalaluddin Haqqani is a key figure in the reconciliation process in eastern Afghanistan, then this must be stated bluntly to the Americans in the core group meeting (Pakistan, Afghanistan and the US) scheduled for later this month and their agreement should take Haqqani and his group off the ‘most-wanted’ list. It will then be up to us to use such influence, as we do have to persuade Haqqani to talk to Karzai and, equally importantly, join us in stopping cross-border movement and in neutralising the sanctuaries that foreign militants have established in Nuristan and the adjacent areas of Kunar. This should be a Haqqani interest as much as it is ours or Karzai’s because, in the reconciliation, Haqqani will want to have a peaceful and stable eastern Afghanistan in the administration of which he would have a strong say. This may, perhaps, be the only way we can avoid an anxiety provoking escalation of violence and the near certainty of further unacceptable military operations.

    I would urge our leaders not to underestimate the seriousness of the situation. Whatever drove our policies in the past, we must recognise the dangers that have been underlined by Obama’s speech.

    Published in The Express Tribune, June 24th, 2011.
    http://tribune.com.pk/story/194839/the-obama-speech-and-its-consequences-for-pakistan/

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 12:11 #
  2. toamin
    member

    Fact is USA is forced to adopt friendship with Pakistan, though their leadership makes a lot of noise but at end of the day they can only adopt friendly approach, Pakistan is too strong for the Western Allied Power combined-

    They can't even control Afghan, what to talk about Pakistan?

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 14:02 #
  3. 1. Obama is worried that after withdrawal Pakistan would be quick to tailor the situation to own advantage.

    2. If India continues meddling, Afghanistan would be new flash point between two nuke nations.

    That is not a pretty picture.

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 14:14 #
  4. spruce
    Member

    if india intervine in the matter of afgan war which pakistan will never tolerate because of pakistan alone secrifice in that region so india will face the same consequences in the kashmire to destrub india from kashmir side. which will force india to look after thier economy which india will not take any risk since manmohan singh regeme has been busy to strong their economy and will force RAW to be neutral from such dirty game because after USA troops withdrawl pakistan will be lion in the region who have 10 year war experience fighting with taliban and al quida terrorist gangs on the mountain.

    so it is hard to say that india will be interested to be part of afgan war in near future.

    simmilarly pakistan wil try to compansate their lost of economy ,peace since 2000.which will take alot time to improve because pakistan will be aidless and all the burden will be on the shoulder of pakistan to handle the situation and maintain the peace in the regioin.

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 15:27 #
  5. toamin
    member

    ہندوستان صرف امریکہ کی گود میں بیٹھ کر ہی افغانستان میں رہ سکتا ہے، جس دن اس کی ماں مر گئی تو یہ خودی نکل جائے گا

    پاکستان کو کسی مدد ودد کی ضرورت نہیں، اللہ نے بےپناہ وسائل سے نوازا ہے، صرف یہ چور حکمرانوں اور ان کے مغربی آقاؤں کو یہاں سے باہر نکال دیں، سب مالا مال ہو جائیں گے

    زرداری نواز گیلانی کیانی پاشا سب چور ہیں اور اپنے ذاتی مفادات کے تحفظ میں لگے ہیں، ان کو کان سے پکڑ کر باہر نکال دیں اور باقیوں کا راستہ بند کر دیں

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 15:37 #
  6. bsobaid
    Member

    consequence yeh hongay kay next 2-3 years mein war kaafi hadd takk aap kay mulk mein transfer hojaey gee kionkay major infrastructure of resistance aap kay yehaa hai.
    2014 kay baad halat behtarr honaa shuroo hojaein ga y

    Iss liyay next election mein chances hein kay current setup phirr se power mein aajaey i-e PPP, Q-League, MQM and ANP. yeh international community kee khahish hogee laikin establishment kaaa aik major part chahay gaa amreeka mukhalif aur nationalist government aaey takay withdrawl kay aakhri dinoo mein establishment achi tarah se amreekioo se maamla kar sakay.

    ANP kee strength kaafi kamzoor hoajey ge aur immu darling inn ko zor kee patkhee day gaa.

    In the end, majority tou current coalition kee hee hogee laikin nationalist parties kee bhi achi representation hogee.

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 15:57 #
  7. toamin
    member

    عبید میاں لگتا ہے کہ سی این این کے تبصروں سے کچھ زیادہ متاثر ہیں، اسی لئے افغان شکست کا تمغہ پاکستان کے گلے میں ڈال رہے ہیں، حقیقت میں تو پاکستان نے کیا کسر نہیں چھوڑی اپنے پڑوسی ملک کی کمر میں چھرا گھونپنے کی؟

    جہاں داد دینی ہے وہاں تو کھاد ڈال آتے ہیں اور جہاں تھپڑ لگانا ہے وہاں بوسے دے رہے ہیں

    یہ تو زیادتی ہے نہ بھائی

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 16:04 #
  8. bsobaid
    Member

    nahi jee, afghan shikast tamghaa pakistan ko nahi jaata, haan arbi dehshatgardoo kee shikast kaa tamghaa aap baree hudd takk pakistani ko day saktay hein. baqi maandaa arbi terrorist kaa infrastructure (bacha kucha) pakistan mien hai aur woh chuptay phirr rahay hein.

    Jahan takk afghan local resistance kaa talluq hai, oss mein pakistan kaa khaas role nahi hai, aur naa hee amreeka ko ab on se bohot baree parayshanee hai kionkay local resistance hee south afghanistan mein powerful hein. problem hai tou bass itni kay amreeka onn se negotiate karnay se pehlay mazeed kamzoor karnaa chahtaa hai.

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 16:12 #
  9. toamin
    member

    جناب جب کل مطلب تھا تو یہی حریت رہنما تھے اور آج مطلب نہیں تو یہ دہشت گرد ہو گئے؟

    دہشت گرد تو ہمارے حکمران ہیں جو عوام کو آٹا، چینی، گیس، بجلی، و پٹرول کی کشمکش میں مار رہے ہیں

    اور اگر احتجاج کرو تو لاٹھی چارج اور بھیڑ بکریوں سے بھی برا سلوک کیا جاتا ہے

    امریکی کشتی سے دیکھیں تو سب دہشت گرد ہی ہیں کہ وہ امریکی مفادات کے مخالف ہیں، لیکن حقیقت تو یہ ہے کہ سب سے بڑا دہشت گرد تو امریکا خود ہے ہر روز مزائل مارتا ہے اور کوئی پوچھنے والا نہیں

    کیا کریں یہ چیزیں بار بار یاد کرنی پڑتی ہیں کہ سی این این ان کی بات نہیں کرتا

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 16:23 #
  10. bsobaid
    Member

    bhai jaan, yeh hurriyat rehnuma thayy kionkay amreeka kaa kaam nikal raha thaa aur dehshat gard hein kion kay amreeka ko bara nuqsaan pohchaa inn kay haatho. iss mein kon se dhakee chupee baat hai? aur naa hee amreeka ne kabhi koi aur baat kee hai.

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 16:25 #
  11. bsobaid
    Member

    janab amreeka ko aisay koosnay daynay se wohee walee baat yaad aati hai jab 65 walee war mein sialkot kee aik amma jee jholi uthaa uthaa kay badd dua'a daytee thein kay yaa allah india kee topoo mein keeray parr jaein...

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 16:27 #
  12. toamin
    member

    نہ جی ہم کب امریکہ کو کوس رہے ہیں، ہم تو اپنے غدار و بزدل حکمرانوں کو ذمہ دار قرار دے رہے ہیں

    امریکا کی کیا مجال کہ پاکستان پر میلی آنکھ بھی اٹھا کر دیکھے، ہمارے زرداری ہی گلہ کرتے ہیں کہ جی آپ لوگ میزائل مارنے میں بہت احتیاط برتتے ہیں، کھل کر ماریں بس ہم ہائے ہائے کریں گے اور آپ بائے بائے کرتے رہیں

    کیانی ان کو اجازت نہ دے تو یہ اپنے اڈے ہی نہ کھول سکیں، سانپ کو آستین میں پال کر دودھ بھی پلاتے ہیں اور پھر ہائے ہائے بھی کرتے ہیں

    Posted 11 months ago on 24 Jun 2011 16:38 #
  13. junaid
    Member

    حقیقت میں تو پاکستان نے کیا کسر نہیں چھوڑی اپنے پڑوسی ملک کی کمر میں چھرا گھونپنے کی؟

    kiya kuch nahi baicha in ghadaron nai. phir 900 visas bhi diye kai jis ko marna hai maro. hum ilzam bhi usee per lagaein gai jin ka aap hukum dogai. moreover, aik taraf sovereignty ka rona lagaya hoa tha thosree taraf rental fauji nai helicopter ki dum bhi plate mai rukh kar wapas kardee.

    Posted 11 months ago on 25 Jun 2011 5:41 #

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