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The real losers in the 'war on terror'......

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  1. If you believe the Taliban won the war, as many Pakistanis and Americans do, you could be close to the truth. You may then ask, as many Pakistanis and Americans do: why haven’t hostilities ended? That is a question that opens up the murky can of worms of today’s world, also known as the world of financiers, drugs, oil, weapons, politicians-on-the-take, and anyone else that can make a quick buck. They all operate under the cover of legitimate Governments who claim to be planning long term geo-strategic and economic advantage for their people. That war is a good business and lifts political ratings is rarely mentioned as the primary driver of policy.

    Conventional war depletes national military power and shakes governments. In this long war on terror the fighting has therefore been out-sourced to the Taliban of Pakistan, Afghanistan, and America. The Regular forces are now primarily engaged in trying to contain the fighting to the border regions, but it is the American and Local Taliban who are conducting the “war of continuing terror”. And they get handsomely paid for it. They get paid by those who benefit from this long war. So who is paying them?

    The Pakistan Taliban gets some money from those who want to establish the hold of Sunni political Islam and dream of the earliest Islamic state of Arabia at the cost of the people of Pakistan and Afghanistan. These include Pakistani financiers and the Gulf Arabs whose actual long term objective is Shia Iran. They get money too from unlawful acts like kidnapping and robbery. They also get substantial inputs (including technology) for specific operations from pro ISAF intelligence agencies, which in turn get their money from the drug trade that that has been allowed to expand hugely since the war started.

    The Afghan Taliban are fighting a war of resistance for which funding from any source is welcome, including Gulf Arabs, drugs, and intelligence agencies of countries opposed to American military presence in central Asia.

    The American Taliban are terrorists sponsored and directly funded by covert sections of the American government. These are mercenary groups such as Blackwater, XE, DynCorp, and other American companies with links to the Pentagon and CIA. They recruit nationals of any country (even former soviet republics) who want to make money and are willing to kill for it. These are “mercenary terrorists” as opposed to the local Taliban who claim the fig leaf of being “ideological terrorists”.

    So the fighting continues because the Taliban of Afghanistan, Pakistan, and America are laughing their way to the bank. The question then arises “if the three primary Governments are not achieving their political objectives and are facing voter pressure to end the war, why don’t they simply pull the plug on the financing of these groups”?

    The answer to this question is simply that the governments are also benefitting. Or should I say that the peddlers of “death for profit” in these countries are benefitting, their military are benefitting, and their bankers/weapon suppliers are benefitting. In fact in a perverse way many sectors of their economies are thriving in this war environment.

    The only and real losers are the silent majority of people of America, Pakistan, and Afghanistan whose freedoms are being usurped, whose moral standards are being savaged, whose lives are being taken, and whose livelihoods are being denied. What are these victims of war doing about it?

    The answer to this question lies in understanding the true nature of the modern nation state in which the masses have ceded their sovereignty to a greedy few in exchange for “protection and leadership”. The social contract of the modern state is an imposition of classic Mafia control.

    Standing armies, civil bureaucracy, and media have evolved in the service of the modern mafia state. Patriotism is now glorified over citizen’s fundamental rights, religion is glorified over free will, and “writ of State” is imposed by the chosen few in the name of democracy. And of course the Media’s bread is buttered to ensure public apathy and acceptance of this perverse social tragedy through mind control in the garb of “opinion making”.

    If you believe a new social contract to save the victims rather than the beneficiaries of war is essential, only you can answer the last question which is, “what are you doing about it”?

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    Posted 10 months ago on 02 Jul 2011 7:14 #
  2. 2011pakistan
    Member

    Pakistan as state and Pakistanis as nation have loosed.

    "What are you doing about it"...... waiting for a Massiah from God to address all our national problems.

    Posted 10 months ago on 02 Jul 2011 7:54 #
  3. Now that was a very interesting piece. Showed a lot of imagination, it did. Some bloggers here will no doubt be absolutely enthusiastic over the "lucidity" the author displays.

    Now my own views are as follows. Para one: Sure we won the war. That was a given. Why hasn't it stopped? Many reasons to that, mainly, however, that the US elections are approaching. As for the beneficiaries of the Muslim wars, since the major enemy was not even mentioned in passing, no comment there. So it's Pakistani-Afghan Blackwater versus US Blackwater. I think this would make a splendid Hollywood film.

    Para two: excellent flight of the imagination. Suddenly the Talib have turned into the mercenaries of the Pak army, our Blackwater so to speak.

    I'll skip para 3 and go straight to the next one: The Afghan Talib may have funding from various sources, but drugs is definitely not one of them. The entire drugs trade is in west hands. They and they alone are running the show and cashing in on the profits, just as they are doing in South America. I'll add one more thing: the govt under Mullah Omar was the only one to put an end to poppy fields in Afghanistan. To turn round now and say they are profiting from the drugs trade is a blatant lie. I'm tired of saying this but here goes once again: consult the west dissident sites. They know exactly what is what.

    So now the fighting has been reduced to the mercenary terrorists (US) and the "ideological" terrorists (Afghans)? Now what kind of thinking is this? Is it "ideology" that spurs someone on to defend their own territory? And is it "terrorism" to say: no, you're not going to come in and take my home away? And what about the NATO "terrorists" in all this, including Germany about which some on you do not even seem to know that they are in Afghanistan along with the French and the British and the Turks and all the rest of them, including Switzerland which pays handsomely behind the scenes for the wars to be carried on?

    No further comments on the "modern nation state". It would require several volumes to be adequately tackled.

    Posted 10 months ago on 02 Jul 2011 10:12 #
  4. NNL
    member

    lol so people are finally figuring it out

    Its all about Wag the Dog.

    Posted 10 months ago on 02 Jul 2011 19:08 #
  5. quaidkamazaar
    Member

    Musharraf messed up... quite clearly and quite simply. Pakistan's stance on this issue could have been pretty neat and clean. but things got messy.

    yes post 9/11 situation was different, but things could have been handled better and Pakistan could have been kept out of this war zone alltogether. This was not Pakistan's business but we made it our own business.

    Posted 10 months ago on 04 Jul 2011 3:55 #
  6. spruce
    Member

    there was no war to defeat any one so that no one loosed or won this war.

    artificail hired terrorist and illiterate muslims took this chance to earned the dollars and went on to mountains some of them hired by CIA to attack eachother groups in pak-afagan border to continue this process of war and behind the scene they were busy to take uranium,natural resources from afganistan so they have accomplished thier mission and will leave soon.

    who won this war i may say those talibs who were actual risistance for USA to quit thier country.

    but USA is not leaving due to more resistance but they have achieved the mission to take all what they needed.

    Posted 10 months ago on 04 Jul 2011 4:52 #
  7. Irshad, how did you come to your conclusion above? First I've heard of it. What I do know about is the west's firm grip on the drugs trade out of Afghanistan which has become one of the main sources of their own funding. Giving up on it will break their hearts, but even so, I do agree they will be leaving soon.

    Posted 10 months ago on 04 Jul 2011 8:59 #
  8. Anwer Kamal
    Member

    Another sad news,Not much related to topic but our all topics ends to some loosing.
    http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2011/07/swiss-hostages-%e2%80%98end-up%e2%80%99-in-fata/?thick=off&KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=540&width=962

    Posted 10 months ago on 04 Jul 2011 23:20 #
  9. he he he
    we the Pakistanis are the real losers in the war on terror.

    Posted 10 months ago on 05 Jul 2011 7:20 #
  10. saladin89
    Member

    Pakistan, afghanistan and iraq are the biggest casualties in war on terror.

    There never really was a so called war on terror, it was just the us media and administration propaganda.

    Posted 10 months ago on 05 Jul 2011 7:55 #
  11. Actually, we are not, choosy. How we come out, along with Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and others the winners of these acts of high immorality on the part of the west we shall see within the next five years or so. All our present sufferings will then find their justification.

    saladin89 is absolutely right not to be taken in by their 24/7 propaganda started on 9.11.2001.

    Posted 10 months ago on 05 Jul 2011 12:42 #

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