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The rise of PTI in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

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  1. qaisernadeem
    Member

    The rise of PTI in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

    Intikhab Amir | Peshawar | From the Newspaper (6 hours ago) Today

    PESHAWAR, Jan 13: Recent setbacks suffered by major political parties in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa are more of their own creation than a result of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf's improving public image, politicians believe.

    Friction in Pakistan Muslim LeagueNawaz, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa chapter, over the provincial leadership issue and discord shown by Pakistan People's Party supporters over their leadership`s reported decision of forming electoral alliance with the Awami National Party for the next general elections have dented them, adding to the PTI's political gains.

    Those who joined the PTI have not left the PPP or ANP in Imran Khan`slove, rather, they wanted to take revenge from somebody in their respective party, said Mian Iftikhar Hussain, a leader of ANP.

    The PPP saw two of its important political figures in Peshawar, Iftikhar Jhagra and Yasin Khan Khalil, switching over to PTI recently as, a diehard PPP activist from the city Saeed Ahmed Khan said, they saw no future in the party.

    There is a commonly held opinion among PPP workers that the party's co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari has decided to forge an electoral alliance with the ANP. As per the reported arrangement, the two parties would support each other in the next general elections on the national and provincial assemblies seats on which their candi-dates won in 2008 elections.

    Malik Naveed, an old PPP worker, said the party candidates who lost last elections to ANP candidates in 2008 stood no chance to get ticket for the upcoming elections.

    The policy has driven out those who have to contest the next elections for their political survival in their constituencies, said Mr Khan, adding those who have to run as candidates in the next elections can't go with the PPP's policy.

    The policy, he said, was not in PPP's favour as some of its candidates were defeated by ANP by thin margins.

    There are, at least, four provincial assembly seats of total 11 in Peshawar district that PPP lost to ANP candidates in 2008 by a few hundred votes.Akbar Khan of PPP lost election on KP-1 (previously PF-1) to ANP`s Alamzeb Khan by 548 votes.

    Similarly, Kifayatullah Orakzai of PPP lost on KP-4 against ANP's Syed Agil Shah by 494 votes; Ashfaq Ahmed Khalil of PPP was defeated by ANP's Mohammad Alamgir Khalil by 639; and Iftikhar Khan Jhagra (then a PPP candidate) lost to ANP's Arbab Ayub Jan of ANP by 708 votes.

    Iftikhar Jhagra, said Mr Khan of PPP, left the party because as per Mr Zardari's decision he was not likely to get the party ticket for his constituency that he won more than once. Yasin Khalil, too, had no chance to contest the election on PPP's ticket because the provincial assembly's constituency he was from was being represented by ANP's Ateefur Rehman, MPA.

    Farid Toofan, a witty PML-N politician from Karak, holds a slightly different view of PTPs popularity.

    Had Imran Khan commanded public support like Zulfikar Ali Bhutto did in 1970, he would have stuck to those (unknown political figures) who have been standing with him for years than accepting old tested faces from other parties, said Mr Toofan, a former ANP stalwart.

    He said that Iftikhar Jhagra was all set to leave PPP. `He had asked me to arrange his meeting with Nawaz Sharif because he thought he did not have any future in the party.

    The PML-N suffered embarrassment on December 28, when its vice-president Saranjam Khan, hailing fromMardan, resigned from his office in a revolt against Mr Sharif.

    PPP worker Naveed said media blitz focusing on Imran had caused panic among the PPP supporters and many of them had started looking towards PTI as a promising alternative to bring change.

    People's mood, particularly youth's, is changing as they have been influenced by media's personification of Imran as a harbinger of change, said Mr Naveed.

    Saeed Ahmed said that the PPP's workers were getting demoralised because of media's stories of government`s corruption.

    The party, he added, had lost considerable public support because of a long stint in power.

    http://www.dawn.com/2012/01/14/the-rise-of-pti-in-khyber-pakhtunkhwa.html

    Posted 4 months ago on 14 Jan 2012 5:05 #
  2. insaftak
    Member

    That's one side of the story. Even before all these people started to join PTI. PTI was very popular in KPK because of it's stance against military operations and drone attacks. These politicians have had to jump ship because of PTI Support in KPK.

    Iftikhar Jhagra was probably forced into pti by one of his family relative. IQbal Zafar Jhagra's Nephew became a member of PTI in Feburary 2010 and was very active in his area.

    http://www.insaf.pk/News/tabid/60/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3564/Ishaq-Khan-Jhagra-joins-PTI-in-Peshawar.aspx

    Posted 4 months ago on 14 Jan 2012 5:40 #
  3. qaisernadeem
    Member

    @insaftak

    Poeple will give different reasons and analysis for PTI's rise but the point is that PTI is rising rapidly and now everyone agrees!

    Posted 4 months ago on 14 Jan 2012 5:50 #
  4. siddiqi73
    Member

    ^^^ All the more reasons for the Tanga Party to contest all the by-elections scheduled to take place on 20th February.

    Posted 4 months ago on 14 Jan 2012 7:38 #
  5. qaisernadeem
    Member

    What's the point of contesting in these elections? Noon can go a head contest in those elections and further sink their own ratings in Public!

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 1:22 #
  6. PTI bubble is busting faster than it swell. Their flight from bye elections is an open admission on their part that sand is shifting fast from under their feet.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 2:10 #
  7. Respect
    Member

    The main reason for PTI growing popularity, is the failure to deliver from our status quo parties.

    As for Khyber Pakhtun they have been gaining poularity for years now, especially for there stance on drone attacks.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 2:18 #
  8. mosid
    Member

    Winning by-elections will give PTI the psychological advantage just like winning the toss in a cricket match. PTI will get all the positive speculation and more air time from the media. Why is PTI running away from the by-elections?

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 2:23 #
  9. Respect
    Member

    @short life endless plans

    Brother we have got the pschological advantage for a long time now. It all began from the Lahore Jalsa and more recently Karachi Jalsa. Also forgot to mention the coming of Javed Hashmi, which is another psychological advantage.

    As for bye elections we are waiting for the real thing, that is General Elections, which should happen within a year or so. As for media we are getting enough air time as it is, we do not want to get greedy now, do we:)

    Not long to wait.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 2:27 #
  10. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Gujjar,

    Who will be PMLN's candidate from Shah Mehmood Hashmi's vacated seat? Javed Hashmi's seat? Khawaja Hoti's seat? Parvaiz Khattak's seat?

    I dare PMLN to enter these bye-elections and see their popularity drop like a hot potato!

    Nooners can pretend to be unfazed by PTI and keep soothing their inner wounds by issuing bravado filled statements but unfortunately that will change the ground reality. PMLN is in shambles and everyone knows that!

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 2:29 #
  11. @Respect

    میں صدقے جاواں ہن اٹھ جاؤ ٹیشن آ گیا جے ہاہا ہاہا

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 2:31 #
  12. mosid
    Member

    KPK is easily exploited. MMA exploited KPK by fuelling anti-American sentiment after Iraq war and then betrayed them by joining Musharraf. They need to make more mistakes to develop a good political sense.

    Even if PTI sweeps in KPK, IK will still not be able to contest in Punjab nor Sindh. Next time round PTI will also have been abandoned by KPK just like MMA.

    PTI is a lost cause.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 2:32 #
  13. qaisernadeem
    Member

    @SLEP,

    You still don't get it do you? Why would PTI want to contest in the elections when it's asking others to resign from the same parliament?

    PMLN and their supporters have gone bonkers, on one hand they are saying "Go Zardari Go" and on the other they are perturbed as to why PTI won't contest these elections!

    Again, I dare PMLN to contest these elections if they want to gauge their popularity amongst masses.

    ;)

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 2:32 #
  14. Respect
    Member

    @Qaiser

    Great point concerning PTI asking politicians to resign from parliament.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 2:33 #
  15. قریشی کی سیٹ سے پیپلز پارٹی کا امیدوار ہو گا اور اور ہاشمی کی سیٹ سے مسلم لیگ کا امیدوار
    لگتا یہی ہے کہ دونوں بلا مقابلہ جیت جائیں گے
    قریشی کی سیٹ سے گیلانی کا بیٹا ہو گا
    اور ہاشمی کی سیٹ سے ایک کارکن شکیل اعوان جیسا

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 2:37 #
  16. Respect
    Member

    @short life endless plans

    It seems u agree that PTI will sweep Kyber Pakhtun, but I disagree with u concerning Punjab and Sindh, especially Punjab.

    (1) The jalsa in Lahore was a clear indication concerning the popularity of PTI, and then came along Karachi Jalsa. Now concerning these jalsa's we have to analyse that all walks of life attended the jalsa, whether it be a taxi driver or doctor, religious, not religious, youth etc.......
    People who have not even ever taken part in politics attended.

    (2) The media has also acknowledeged that PTI is a political force to be reckoned with.

    (3) The failures of Punjab government to deliver to it's people whether it be justice or jobs.

    (4) Recently a yougov poll suggested that IK is the overwhelming choice of people. Nawaz Sharif and Zardari got around 20% between them.

    (5) The movement of politicians coming into PTI is another point in favour that PTI has become a political heavyweight. Especially from the likes of Javed Hashmi coming to party suggests the might of PTI
    So for u to suggest PTI is a lost cause, really confuses me.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 2:45 #
  17. qaisernadeem
    Member

    @Ali Bhai,

    Yeh cheez!!

    **** Kushti Mubarak ho, bila muqabla intikhab Zindabad!

    What message will that send out to the masses? PMLN is responsible for it's own demise!

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 2:49 #
  18. mosid
    Member

    @Respect
    The jalsa in Lahore was a clear indication concerning the popularity of PTI...

    I heard a woman's interview who was a participant of the jalsa in Lahore. she was from Karachi. She said a whole train was booked for them and she and many others came from Karachi. Jalsa in Lahore was a collection of fanatics from all over Pakistan. It does not represent Lahoriye. Lahore and Punjab still belongs to NS. Only election will tell the truth about popularity.

    while the media recognises PTI as an emerging political force, the same media recognises PMLN as one of the two major parties in Pakistan.

    Polls don't win the elections.

    As far as Punjab Government's failure is concerned, this failure is only seen by PTI and PPP. the people of Punjab see no such thing. Sorry to burst your bubble.

    Finally the movement of politicians you mention, well, I can only but smile at that innocence. You forgot to mention 'corrupt' in your composition about 'movement of politicians'. PTI can gladly have these politicians. Don't even mention JH. JH will meet the same fate as Sheikh Rasheed.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 3:52 #
  19. spruce
    Member


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    مجھے عمران خاں کے پارٹی منشور اور تبدیلی کے نعرے سے مکمل اتفاق ہے اور اس حوالے سے میں عمران خاں کے لئے دعاگو بھی رہتا ہوں مگر موجودہ ایک ہفتے کے دوران جس دھکم پیل کے ساتھ سیاسی بزرجمہروں نے عمران کی پارٹی کا رخ کیا ہوا ہے، مجھے سچی بات ہے کہ عمران خاں کے سیاسی مستقبل سے خوف آنے لگا ہے۔

    پہلے تو عمران یہی دعوے کرتا رہا کہ پارٹی ٹکٹ ہر امیدوار کے ماضی اور حال کی مکمل چھان بین کے بعد ہی دیا جائے گا اور کرپٹ عناصر کے لئے ان کا پارٹی ٹکٹ شجرِ ممنوعہ بنا رہے گا -

    مگر لغاریوں، مزاریوں، ٹوانوں، دیوانوں، فرزانوں کو گلے لگا کر بالآخر وہ یہ کہنے پر مجبور ہو گئے کہ انہوں نے اسی کرپٹ معاشرے سے ہی امیدوار لانے ہیں۔ انہیں فرشتے کہاں سے ملیں گے۔ تو پھر کپتان جی، تبدیلی کا نعرہ لگانے کی کیا ضرورت ہے۔ آپ معروف اقتدار خواہوں اور الیکشن بازوں کو پارٹی ٹکٹ دیں گے تو آپ کی اصولی سیاست راکھ کے ڈھیر میں بدل جائے گی اور آپ ان میں سے کسی ایک کو بھی پارٹی ٹکٹ سے محروم کریں گے تو یہ جو سارے مقبول و معروف سیاسی مہرے سیاسی قد کاٹھ میں آپ سے کہیں بلند ہیں، ایکا کر کے آپ کی پارٹی سمیت آپ کے چیتھڑے اڑا دیں گے۔

    قوم اس وقت حقیقی تبدیلی کا استقبال کرنے کے لئے بے تاب ہے۔ اگر اس کا تجسس اور بے تابی، مایوسی میں تبدیل ہو گئی تو کپتان جی! اس کے ردعمل میں پیدا ہونے والا عوامی غصہ آپ کوگم نامی کی جانب دھکیل دے گا۔

    اگر آج سارے اقتدار خواہوں اور الیکشن بازوں کا راستہ روکنا آپ کے بس میں نہیں رہا تو کل کو انہیں پارٹی ٹکٹوں سے دور رکھنا بھی کیسے آپ کے بس میں ہو پائے گا اس لئےبھاگنے کے بجائے آپ کہیں ٹھہر جائیے اور دم لے کر، سوچ بچار کر کے آگے بڑھئے۔ پہلی ٹھوکر پر شیرازہ بکھرے گا تو رسوائی اور جگ ہنسائی زیادہ ہو گی۔—

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 4:50 #
  20. I hope Asghar Khan could deliver KP to PTI. There was no KP face among PTI higher ups until now. Dun think KP youth give a hoot to Punjabi and Mohajir leadership in PTI.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 9:39 #
  21. "Dun think KP youth give a hoot to Punjabi and Mohajir leadership in PTI."

    I don't agree with this "Punjabi and Mohajir leadership" categorization. KP voters are open to listen to anyone. They voted for ZAB, BB and NS. But, IK should not think that just because he pretended to be against drones, he will carry KP.
    The type of coterie IK has gathered around him, everyone has started to doubt his slogan of change. I think PTI will get some serious drubbing in KP, just like everywhere else, when time for election comes.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 16:04 #
  22. Perhaps Arif Alvi, Naeemul Haq, Shiri Mazari, Shah Mahmood Qureshi or Javaid Hashimi should deliver bombastic speeches in KP and let's see if they are taken like hot cakes. Just wanna know whether it's only Imran in KP or the rest are also worthy of being listened to.

    Posted 4 months ago on 15 Jan 2012 17:56 #
  23. Pakistani84
    Blocked

    @SLEP,

    You heard nonsense about train coming from all over Karachi. Yes, PTI has ideological supporters everywhere in Pakistan and many PTI supporters travel to attend jalsas just like Zulfiqar Ali who travelled from RYK to Karachi for the Karachi Jalsa.

    However, the analysis of the Lahore Jalsa from all the independent media analysts present in the jalsa showed that it contained 90% Lahori people. It was not a Bhati Chowk drama, it was a historic jalsa consisting of lacs of people.

    Let's say 10-20 thousand people were from outside Lahore, that will mean less than 10% of the total jalsa attendees.

    Now, let's have a word about Bhatti chowk drama. Most probably, and going by analysis and the makeup of the crowed, majority of the people in that patwari jalsa were from outside Lahore.

    I live in Lahore and know that it has absolutely been swept by PTI's sentiment. Yes, you are in for a redue awakening in the elections if you really are sleeping.

    Posted 4 months ago on 16 Jan 2012 12:21 #

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