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There you go PTI! [Shireen Mazari Ready to Leave PTI]

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  1. mariabashir
    Member

    Now that you have done your hardwork and consolidated yourself, its time that you also safeguard your foundations.
    Please introduce, atleast, some kind of filter to "the Massive Inflow" of wannabe MPAs'/MNAs'/PMs'/CMs'.
    http://e.jang.com.pk/11-28-2011/Karachi/pic.asp?picname=99.gif
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    In coming days,judging by the international politics, this pro/anti-american sentiment is again going to be top priority of our nation. There is every likelihood that MMA will re-surface. & one should not underestimate the possible regime change in USA itself & its implication on Pakistan politics.

    Also see
    http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/shareen-mazari-ready-to-leave-pti

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 1:58 #
  2. wasimibr
    Member

    This influx of turncoats is really damaging the slogan of "Change" raised by Ik. If Ik really wants to bring change and inqilab with the help of same garbage and status quo politicians mostly consisting of Mush leaque aka Q- leaque then we should be ready to say "Good bye" to such type of inqilab.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 2:44 #
  3. insaftak
    Member

    I will wait for Dr. Shiren Mazari's official stance on it. I don't believe in the sources.

    The rumor was previously started by Qasmi (PMLN) in his article and two days later Shireen Mazari was with Dr. Arif Alvi and Imran Khan in APC meeting.

    In other news Justice Wajih-udin might be the leading candidate to head the parliamentary board. That would be fantastic as I have huge respect for him.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 3:19 #
  4. mariabashir
    Member

    @ ADMIN:
    Thanks for editing.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 3:59 #
  5. cutenice62
    Member

    it would be very sad :(, i dont know what and how IK is thinking, if he comes into power like this, then this nation will not believe any body any more,

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 4:38 #
  6. Bawa
    Member

    @ mariabashir

    سلام ماریہ بی بی

    جو پی ٹی آئی چھوڑے گا اسکی ایسی کی تیسی کر دی جائے گی

    یقین نہیں آتا تو فرنٹ فورم پر جا کر شیریں مزاری کی پی ٹی آئی والوں کے ہاتھ درگت بنتی دیکھ لیں

    :)

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 4:40 #
  7. mariabashir
    Member

    واسلام باوا جی
    یہی ہمارا المیہ ہے: ہم پہلے اپنے رہنماؤں کو بت بنا کے پوجتے ہیں اور جب وہ فرعون بن جاتے ہیں تو انھیں کو گالیاں دیتے ہیں.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 4:44 #
  8. Bawa
    Member

    شیریں مزاری کی طرف سے عمران خان کے نام

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 4:48 #
  9. Bawa
    Member

    ماریویہ بی بی

    یہ صرف عمران خان ہی نہیں سب سیاست دانوں کا المیہ ہے کہ جب نہیں تھوڑی شہرت ملتی ہے یا اقتدار ملتا ہے تو وہ خوشامدی لوگوں کے گھیرے میں آ جاتے ہیں اور اپنے پرانے اور جانثار ساتھیوں کو اقتدار یا شہرت کے نشے میں مکمل نظر انداز کر جاتے ہیں

    میرے ایک بہت قریبی دوست جو نواز شریف کے دور میں وزیر تعلیم بھی رہے مجھے یہ کہہ کر ششدر کر دیا کہ کارکنوں کے آنے جانے کو اتنی اہمیت نہیں دینی چاہئیے - ایک جاتا ہے تو چار آ جاتے ہیں

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 4:56 #
  10. it will happen...
    some will come and some will go.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 5:24 #
  11. Bawa
    Member

    @ Beenai

    ایسا کیوں ہو؟؟؟؟؟

    درخت کوئی لگائے - پانی کوئی دے - پھل کوئی کھائے

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 5:40 #
  12. cutenice62
    Member

    @bawa ji

    sir ji mjay tu lagta hai inqalaab khuwab he rahay ga :(, its quite a depressing situation.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 5:41 #
  13. insafi111
    Blocked

    This seems to be an implanted story. The exact words were used about "Musharraf's remnants" by Kh Asif in the last night show Lekin.

    Ahmed Norani - noted.

    As to the content, one thing must be clear to anyone that PTI does not believe in rabid anti-Americanism and anti-Indian propaganda to further its politics. PTI's politics is based on solid foundation of a prosperous vision for Pakistan, it does not need hatred of others to sustain itself.

    If anyone has joined the party to paddle his or her anti-Americanism and anti-Indian attitude, then he or she can decide their future as they like. One thing must be clear to anyone, only Imran and Imran alone is indispensable to PTI, at this stage. No one else is.

    A political party cannot apply a "filter" to millions of people who are attaining basic membership every month.

    Actually, this whole concept is moronic. Is it logical for a political party to ask that only those who have never committed any wrongdoing vote for it? Then why regarding basic membership? (Of course, if it's confirmed that someone has committed a crime or broken a policy of the party otherwise, then he maybe ousted)

    I advise people to check Hasan Nisar's take on it. When religion doesn't apply such filters and gives the chance to all and sundry to enter and correct themselves, what is a political party?

    It only matters, under legal and ethical constraints, that the people who are given important portfolios and bid for MNA/MPA status must have track record free of corruption and malpractice.

    Leadership makes a lot of difference. It brings the best out of people and let's them achieve their potential, while bad leadership hampers it. We have examples of this in our religious history. Great enemies of Islam became its greatest saviors upon joining the caravan.

    There is also a tactical thing to consider here. Riding on an illogical high horse and putting up insane barriers around the party, might satisfy a few within, but it has the potential to kill off the movement and benefit its opponents. If PTI did not take people like SMQ and others, who would gulp them within no time? PMLN, of course, a party of status quo and a political mafia to the core.

    Then these same liars of PMLN would say, "look at the stable and rising popularity of PMLN, big political guns are joining us!" The same people who are now crying, "Grapes are sour!"

    I think I have made myself abundantly clear.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 5:41 #
  14. Bawa
    Member

    @ cutenice62

    جن پارٹیوں میں جمہوریت نہیں ہوتی اور کارکنوں کا ہولڈ نہیں ہوتا وہاں ایسا ہی ہوتا ہے

    آپ لوگوں نے شاید بہت زیادہ امیدیں وابستہ کر لی تھیں اس لے اب مایوسی ہو رہی ہے

    لیکن اب بھی وقت ہے کہ اپنی مزاحمت بڑھائیں اور ایسا ہونے سے روکیں

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 5:46 #
  15. insafi111
    Blocked

    @wasimibr

    The turncoats are those who are sitting in the lap of Nawas Sharif in the Punjab Assembly.

    So Justice Wajih is a Musharraf's "baqiaat"? Or Hamid Khan, who vowed to skin Musharraf alive?

    So keep your pretentious nonsense to yourself!

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 5:50 #
  16. insafi111
    Blocked

    cutenice62,

    Inqilab to aya ga, aur PTI hi laye gi.

    Don't let doubt clutter your judgement.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 5:55 #
  17. insafi111
    Blocked

    @Bawa,

    Shireen Mizari only joined PTI a few mouths a ago. No seed was sown by her.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 5:57 #
  18. Bawa
    Member

    @ insafi111

    یہ ظفر اقبال وڑائچ اور مسعود شریف کس کے بندے ہیں؟

    اور

    انکا ماضی کیا ہے؟

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:01 #
  19. Bawa
    Member

    insaf111
    @Bawa,

    Shireen Mizari only joined PTI a few mouths a ago. No seed was sown by her.

    جانے دیں یار

    میں پاکستان کی سیاست میں نیا نہیں ہوں

    یہ باتیں انقلابی بچوں سے کہہ کر انہیں مطمین کر سکتے ہیں - مجھے نہیں

    میرے نزدیک وہ خاتون پی ٹی آئی میں سب سے زیدہ قابل احترام سمجھی جاتی تھی

    She joined Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf on 25 November 2008 after a meeting with the Chairman of the party, Imran Khan.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shireen_Mazari

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:04 #
  20. insafi111
    Blocked

    @Bawa,

    Masood Sharif was in PPP until 2007 and he resigned from PPP on the basis of NRO deal between BB and Musharraf. Another example of N-league's lame propagnda of drawing comparison betweenm Imran and Musharraf.

    Yes, Zaffar Iqbal Warriach did work in the Musharraf regime, but the examples I have given and the many more I can give, prove that the propaganda that somehow only Musharraf's associated politicians are joining PTI to transform it into a potent political force is lame, factually incorrect and simply a lie.

    People from every walk of life are entering PTI, from students to professionals to people associated with politics in the past. There is no exclusive group joining the party. So within these groups there might be familiar faces here and there but it doesn't mean anything given the phenomenon that PTI is growing up to be.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:10 #
  21. Bawa
    Member

    ابھی میں دیکھ رہا ہوں کہ ڈاکٹر شیریں مزاری کا نام بھی پی ٹی آئی کی ویبسائیٹ سے غایب کر دیا گیا ہے

    اسکا مطلب یہ خبر واقعی درست ہے؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:16 #
  22. insafi111
    Blocked

    @Bawa,

    Thanks for correcting me. My bad.

    Of course, I also respect her and this is only a rumor that you and Maria BB have linked to. So let's see.

    But as I said, PTI is a 15 years old party, not 2-3 years old.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:16 #
  23. insafi111
    Blocked

    No joining or leaving can stop this Tsumani. I think this should be clear by now.

    This thread is only for nooners to gain a fake, temporary relief.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:20 #
  24. justhuman
    Member

    @Bawa ji aap tu rehnay deiN ..Qabil e ehtram ? ... Kitnay hi posts mein aap nay unkay wazan aur sehat ka mazaq uRaya hay ..
    Yah 180 Degree ki qalabazi sabit kurti hay kay aap Pakistani Siyasat kay rang mein bilkul rangay huay heiN ..

    Waisay apart from Jokes .. , If it happens, it will be a sad news for PTI , She seems to be an energetic, educated Vocal and honest person and pretty much aligned with Ideological basis of PTI. She lacked acumen and patience of a politician though.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:20 #
  25. Bawa
    Member

    @ insafi111

    بھائی جی

    اگر مشرف کے لوگوں کو ہی پی ٹی آئی میں شامل کرنا ہے تو پھر مشرف کو بھی کر لیں

    اسی ہی ایک خبر پر میں نے مسلم لیگ کے لیے ایک تھریڈ "{لکھ دی لعنت - مسلم لیگ نوں پر}" شروع کیا تھا

    کیا اب میں یہ کہنے پر حق بجانب ہوں کہ

    لکھ دی لعنت - تحریک انصاف پر

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:21 #
  26. Bawa
    Member

    @ justhuman

    انقلابی بچوں سے مذاق اپنی جگہ لیکن شیریں مزاری کی قابلیت اور احترام اپنی جگہ

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:23 #
  27. Bawa
    Member

    insaf111
    @Bawa,

    Thanks for correcting me. My bad.

    Of course, I also respect her and this is only a rumor that you and Maria BB have linked to. So let's see.

    But as I said, PTI is a 15 years old party, not 2-3 years old.

    ویسے پی تی ای نے پندرہ سالوں میں کیا تیر چلایا ہے؟ ایک سیٹ ہی جیتی ہے

    کل تک وہ پی تی آئی کی سینیر نائب صدر تھی اور اسکا لنک بھی کچھ دن پہلے یہاں پوسٹ ہوا تھا

    اگر یہ خبر غلط ہے تو مجھے پی تی آئی کی ویبسائیٹ سے وہ لنک ڈھونڈ دیں

    میں کوشش کرتا ہوں کہ کچھ دن پرانا وہ لنک یہاں سے تلاش کروں

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:27 #
  28. Bawa
    Member

    @ insaf111
    No joining or leaving can stop this Tsumani. I think this should be clear by now.

    اگر یہ آپکی سوچ ہے تو پھر پی تی آئی کا الله ہی حافظ ہے

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:31 #
  29. Bawa
    Member

    یہ وہ لنک تھا جو ایکس پاکستانی نے پوسٹ کیا تھا

    expakistani
    Member

    @Bawa

    Dr. Shireen Mazari
    Central VP National Security and Foreign Affairs

    http://insaf.pk/Spokespersons/tabid/256/Default.aspx

    POSTED 3 WEEKS AGO ON 05 NOV 2011 14:35 #

    اب مجھے اس لنک میں ڈاکٹر شرین مزاری دکھا دیں - بہت شکریہ

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:42 #
  30. insafi111
    Blocked

    @Bawa,

    Your statement about PMLN is right because PMLN rode a high horse and said they reject Q-leaguers who stabbed them in the back. Now they are turning away from their "principled" stance in the face of humiliation at the hands of PTI.

    PTI never took a rigid stance and always maintained that we believe in repentance. When religion leaves the room for repentance, what can you say about a political party. And PTI doesn't desperately approach people with controversial backgrounds, but given PTI's popularity, people are pouring in as we speak. Weeding out process will also start soon, don't worry.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:42 #
  31. Bawa
    Member

    @ insafi111

    جانے دیں یار

    یہ بچوں والی باتیں بچوں سے کریں

    :) :)

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 6:44 #
  32. Shireen Mazari is raising some very serious concerns about Imran Khan's acceptance of every crook in Pakistan in PTI.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 7:34 #
  33. saladin89
    Member

    Hope she stays!!!!!!

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 8:00 #
  34. sasherwani
    Members

    Yeah now that there's a 'rumor' out that Shireen Mizari is leaving PTI, N$ will praise her to limits for being the only intellectual PTI ever had. In world politics, party members leave and go. Doesn't make a difference. Her services shall be missed.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 8:04 #
  35. wasimibr
    Member

    Mian Izhar, Zafar Waraich, Ijaz Khan Jaazi, Jaali Degree holder Faiz Tamman, the first lota of JI Fiaz Ul Hassan Chohan and this list still growing every day with many such type of garbage politicians joining Pti to bring so called Inqilab.

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 8:24 #
  36. asif65
    Member

    درخت کوئی لگائے - پانی کوئی دے - پھل کوئی کھائے

    باوا جی
    نا بھائی نا- ہم بھی نہیں مانتے ! کس نے شریں صاحبہ کو بھل گھآنے سے روکا ہے- میں تو شریں صاحبہ سے گزارش کروں گا کہ وہ پارٹی میں رہ کر سچ کے لئے لڑیں- ان کی پارٹی میں بہت سپورٹر ہے - وہ آواز اٹھا کر تو دیکھیں- ہم ان کا ساتھ دیں گین-

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 8:33 #
  37. SufiSoul
    Member

    I thik concern of the people are beyond imigination that who is comming and who is leaving PTI.
    This is i think a real sentiments for any AWAMI PARTY...

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 8:33 #
  38. sahibzada1
    Member

    Just wait and see how Mr Haroon Rasheed (Palatoon Wale) will find some "Hawaley" from Quran o Hadees to prove that its divine blessing on "Kaptaan" that such a ____,_____, ____ lady has quit.....Hail Munafqat!!

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 8:34 #
  39. pak1stani
    Blocked

    @Bawa
    Another evidence.

    http://www.insaf.pk/AboutUs/Leadership/tabid/141/agentType/ViewType/PropertyTypeID/12/Default.aspx

    ;)

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 8:36 #
  40. SufiSoul
    Member

    نقلابی بچوں سے مذاق اپنی جگہ لیکن شیریں مزاری کی قابلیت اور احترام اپنی جگ
    ///////////////////

    Sub-continental stuff bohut jaldi but garh ker os ki pooja shoroo ker daity hain....

    Posted 6 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 9:04 #
  41. scandinavian
    Member

    I don't know whether this is yet another a "leakage" by the notorious **** league. Anyways I don't hope it is true. She is an intellectual and if there are differences she should still stay and fight for her views. There is no party in the world where everybody has anonymous view on ALL matters. If she still wants to leave then it is her decision.

    Btw: It is no big issue that people come and go. Once **** League did loose about half the party in a rush.

    Posted 5 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 10:37 #
  42. ایسا کیوں ہو؟؟؟؟؟

    درخت کوئی لگائے - پانی کوئی دے - پھل کوئی کھائے

    Welcome to the REAL world of PAKISTANI politics!

    Posted 5 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 10:43 #
  43. mariabashir
    Member

    @pak1stani---"http://www.insaf.pk/AboutUs/Leadership/tabid/141/agentType/ViewType/PropertyTypeID/12/Default.aspx"

    ویسے اس پورے پیج پر سب سے کام کا بندہ حامد خان ہے. وہ آجکل کدھر ہیں؟

    Posted 5 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 14:12 #
  44. @Scandinavian

    I guess you wan't to be the "last man standing"....to justify this "لوٹوں کی سونامی"

    Posted 5 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 14:15 #
  45. saladin89
    Member

    From PTI website, it seems she is staying:)

    Dr. Shireen Mazari strongly denies false rumors of leaving PTI

    Islamabad, November 28: PTI Vice President Foreign and Security Affairs, Dr Shireen Mazari, has strongly denied the news item appearing in an English Daily that she is leaving the PTI. She has been out of the country for over a week and is still not back in Pakistan.

    As in any democratic set up, and the PTI has a strong democratic tradition of discussion and dissent, there are issues on which there are disagreements amongst the members of the CEC and the party leader but these are part of the party discourse through which policies are finally formulated. The Party’s position on drones and the US “war on terror” continue to remain unchanged and its CEC decision to form a parliamentary board to whet all applicants for election tickets will protect the Party and its principles from the opportunist remnants of the Musharraf era and Zardari regime now scrambling to enter the PTI fold. The Chairman continues to place his trust in Dr Mazari as Vice President Foreign and Security Policy and there has been no discussion of her either leaving the post or the party.

    Clearly someone within the Party has sought to create mistrust and misunderstanding by taking discussions within the party out of context and making them public. This is regrettable

    Posted 5 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 14:23 #
  46. pakstar
    Member

    By the time of elections, Imran Khan will have all Lotas in Party and the real pioneers of PTI would have left such as Vice President of Blochistan, Khaber Pakhtoonkhawa and Shireen Mizari etc..

    PTI = Putli Tamasha Inaction

    Posted 5 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 14:36 #
  47. saladin89
    Member

    @pakster

    When that happens then open your mouth, until then this false propaganda thread needs to be closed. It is noon league my brother that is a sinking ship and we are sending his twin brother Mr10% with him.

    As for today it seems shireen mizari is staying, so nothing to get excited about. NOw go and start another baseless topic on PTI that can give u some peace of mind.

    Posted 5 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 14:42 #
  48. saladin89
    Member

    @pakster

    That jung headline has already been given on the first post maybe u did not receive what I sent

    Dr. Shireen Mazari strongly denies false rumors of leaving PTI

    Islamabad, November 28: PTI Vice President Foreign and Security Affairs, Dr Shireen Mazari, has strongly denied the news item appearing in an English Daily that she is leaving the PTI. She has been out of the country for over a week and is still not back in Pakistan.

    As in any democratic set up, and the PTI has a strong democratic tradition of discussion and dissent, there are issues on which there are disagreements amongst the members of the CEC and the party leader but these are part of the party discourse through which policies are finally formulated. The Party’s position on drones and the US “war on terror” continue to remain unchanged and its CEC decision to form a parliamentary board to whet all applicants for election tickets will protect the Party and its principles from the opportunist remnants of the Musharraf era and Zardari regime now scrambling to enter the PTI fold. The Chairman continues to place his trust in Dr Mazari as Vice President Foreign and Security Policy and there has been no discussion of her either leaving the post or the party.

    Clearly someone within the Party has sought to create mistrust and misunderstanding by taking discussions within the party out of context and making them public. This is regrettable

    Posted 5 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 14:45 #
  49. siddiqi73
    Member

    Shireen Mazari is to Tehreek-e-Ilazam party what Firdous Ashiq Awan is to Zardari League.......Sehat Mund Mujh ;)

    Posted 5 months ago on 28 Nov 2011 15:26 #
  50. sasherwani
    Members


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