saladin89
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http://tribune.com.pk/story/288363/political-convention-pti-to-test-the-waters-in-sindh/
After an historical beating of noon league in Punjab, there are rumours that PTI will test the waters in Sindh, to me it will be the right decision, allow noon league to try to prove themselves at Minare E Pakistan, and we should do one in Sindh!.
Has the wind of change gone through Sindh?
All I can say is Bring It On
safshan
Member
get ready for another general pasha's production, in lahore ppp, q-league & families of armed forces were specially brought alongwith musical groups for the success of "greatest show on earth",
now the second episode, could be named as: "comedy circus ka naya daur", where mqm will be called for help...
advance congratulations for our pti's kiddoz for its success, i bet there will be more then 2 million people to welcome mr. clean...
saladin89
Member
@safshan
Tsunami coming through Sindh soon.
Establishment? any proof
safshan
Member
dear its a blasphemy to talk something which is against the farman of dharna khan, u will be killed for that...
**** khan ka farman hai kay tsunami aa chuka hai...
and u r saying it is coming, tauba tauba karo meray bhai...
otherwise if people know ur phone number u will be doomed by our (sponsored) pti kiddoz...
hahahaha....
saladin89
Member
No bro the Tsunami has come on October 30th shaking the whole of Punjab, now what we want to know is that has the shockwaves of this Tsunami reached Sindh and Karachi.
The tsunami has definetly come did u not watch October 30th
Maybe these fools are really cheering General Pasha:)
outspokenloud
Blocked
fasten your seatbelt honey!
the change has arrived
Dusky
Member
We have seen PTI real power in Karachi with weak dharnas at the port couple of months ago, that kind of crowed can not fill quarter of Nashter park let alone MA Jinnah road or Shahrah e Qaideen.
PTI can make some inroads like Lahore in Karachi only if Jamet e Islami agree to provide PTI their mussel power. On their own they can not gather much people in Karachi. But I will be surprise if Jamat e islami help PTI as this will eliminate them from Karachi political landscape.
saladin89
Member
^^^^^^^^
That's what they said concerning Minare e Pakistan Jalsa, but even the party themselves were surprised by the outcome.
The Tsunami has come.
mariabashir
Member
@saladin89
Your optimism is commendable but pragmatism should prevail.
Will IK be able to tackle this?
Dusky
Member
@saladin89: Lahore is IK/PTI home town, Karachi is a different beast all together. In Lahore it was PTI vs. PML -N, in Karachi it will PTI vs. PPP/MQM/ANP/all religious parties and many more. So yes, fasten your seat belts even before you think about diving in human jungle.
It will be interesting to see how IK converts his support at ballot box.
mariabashir
Member
I shall support Ik only if he keeps up with this:
sochopakistani
Member
Its good sign, he is coming to Karachi. Sindh and Karachi dynamics are different then lahore and Punjab however what Imran says is the voice and need of every citizen of Pakistan. Good luck to him.
scandinavian
Member
I really hope that PTI will move on to Sindh, but they need to continue to gather further support in Punjab. Noon will try to make a come back through every mean, and that is mostly dirty tricks. In other words we need to keep the momentum in Punjab by especially membership campaign, being visible all the time for everyone!
In Sindh and KHI it will be very difficult since they are in even worse condition than Punjab. These areas have been dominated by armed gangs and hence it is very difficult to make inroads, but that should not prevent PTI to give it a serious effort to gain support. PTI should test the waters by an active membership campaign first. Pakistan need to get out of the grip of the armed gangs!
sochopakistani
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@Scan, you dont get it totally right that KHi controlled by armed gangs. Khi is not sheep of some wadera or jagir dar, its most politically awakened city. If you start with false assumptions, you 'll fall in deep hole.
Identify real issues facing by People of Khi and sindh and try to give your solution.
As things are being talked about Sindh. I have question. Is there any prominent Sindhi speaking politician or activist member of PTI??
cutenice62
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@safshan
dear, would u please listen to my one argument and then give a solid answer to it.
kiya establishment itni bachi hai, k un ka khel hamray tumaray jaisay aam keray makoray awam k zehan may asani say sama jayee???agar aisi baat hai tu my dear u and same friends like you should be part of think tanks and establishment.
tum jaisay logon k pass sirf aik saaathi soch hoti hai, jo establishment establishment kar k apni frsutration nikalti hai. kia tumray mian/zardari/or chudrion k establishment say rabtay or un ki sar parasti proof nahi???kiya KAPTAAN ka establishment say kisi rabtay ka proof hai, agar wo establishment ka banda hota tu woo 2002 may prime minister bananay say inkar karta????
i know now u have just a baseless argument. May bhi jalsay may tha, baqool tumaray mujhay bhi ISI waloon nay kaha tha k jalsay may jaoo, what a pity on you, u should provide proof or feel ashame of yourself.
scandinavian
Member
@sochopakistani
Then please explain all the violence we are experiencing in KHI?
Sind is run by 2 puppet political parties of ISI; so there is no need for Imran to do jalsay in Sind or Karachi.
sochopakistani
Member
Violence is results of non-commitment of governments towards peace and injustice. Karachi is treated by everybody being soney ki Chriya but nobody is committed to return to it its due share.
We have seen serious handling by law enforcement agencies bring Peace to city within days however not a single person being hanged for all the crimes committed. This makes peace fragile. Hence, If IK promises to be fair and deal criminals with iron hand of law and bring sustainable peace to city and dont target and alienate a community, he has fair chance to attract educated and vibrant youth of Karachi.
Dusky
Member
@pakistani47: Don't worry Imran Khan will learn Sindhi:)
saladin89
Member
Move over PPP and MQM, the party of change is coming to your doorstep soon.
Dusky
Member
sochopakistani
Member
I think If Zulfiqar Mirza joins PTI, you have instant support at interior Sindh.
cutenice62
Member
ZM is just a zardari pupet, is ko use kar k MQM ki garden zardari nay pakar li hai.........lakin batain us ki sach hain.........
sochopakistani
Member
ZM claims to be following Hazrat Imam Hussein, you are saying zardari is the master??? then you are saying baatein sachchi hein "Kia yeh kuhla tazad nahee hey?"
cutenice62
Member
my dear friend,
ZM following imam hussain is just a political statement. or batain sachi honay ka matlab hai jo kuch us nay kaha woo sach kaha, lakin itnay arsay baad kion? or puppet is liyay k zardari sb nay us k kartaab say MQM ki garden bhi phasa li hai or sindh k qoam parast voters ko ZM ka hamnawa bana k poltical votes bhi next election tak k liyay mahfooz kar liyay hain, ab ho gaa yeh k elections k qareeb dono dobara bhaye hoon gaay....
sochopakistani
Member
Cutie, I was not aware if you can use hazrat Imam Hussein for Siasat. Can you say same about using Quraan too? means he does not mean what he says all is drama of Zardari? Yeh to Tazad barthta Jaaraha hey?
karim
Member
I wish PTI and IK all the best for their Karachi Jalsa. So far MQM had a free hand in Karachi with Jamat-e-Islami be the only formidable force against them. If PTI is able to do a similar performance in Karachi that would be a serious blow to the MQM's ghunda politics.
However, I am concerned that being known for their ghunda gardi MQM will try every mean to disrupt PTI's jalsa if it felt threaten by the upcoming Tsunami of PTI inside Karachi. So PTIians be careful while you land in Karachi.
cutenice62
Member
@ sochopakistani
dear Quran hath may lay k jhoat bolna gunah-e-kabeera hai, agar ZM jhota hai tu ISLAMI asool k mutabiq us k mukhalif quran utha k usay jhota keh dain........woo sacha hai lakin sachayee siyasat k liyay use ki hai,
baki imam hussain (RA) k naam say siyasat karna islamic political history may bohat dafa howa hai......yeh tazaad nahi hai, jo zardari ZM say karwa raha hai, thora say tamaam waqiaat pay ghoor karoo or dekho k ZM ki bataoon say sab say ziada kis nay faida uthaya hai?u know ibn-e-alqami nay hilakoo khan ko kiya kaha tha?jab woo baghdad pay hamla karnay say dar raha tha, tu us nay kaha tha k yahan IMAM Hussain ko qatal karnay say koi farak nahi parha, yeh tu phir naiki ka kaam kar rahay hain aap......
sochopakistani
Member
PTIans, you have already supporters in Karachi. Unkey ghar mein aap jaatey hein to unko ghussa aata hey magar they are well wishers in different turf.
karim
Member
BTW, what is the official MQM stance on PTI's proposed landing in Karachi?
Will they join hand with PTI like they did with Zardari or will they be on the opposing side?
sochopakistani
Member
@Cuties, please tell me truth, you think he is true because he took oath on Quraan or coz he spoke against MQM. He has leveled very serious allegations, if you are convinced that he has spoken truth, then he or someone on his behalf should file case in free courts. What General Pasha and Kayani are doing, they should immediately ban MQM and do operation against them.
Regarding Hazrat Imam Hussein (RA), I failed to understand your logic, coz historically people are misusing Hazrat Imam Hussein for politics so in future too its ok?
He also said on Quran that Zardari did not ask or sanction him to do what he did? Do you believe this statement too?
sochopakistani
Member
My assessment is, If PTI wins 20-30 seats in next election, then there is possibilities of joining hands between the two parties.
karim
Member
What if IK gives another stunning performance in Karachi like he did in Lahore much before the elections?
Would it not tilt the balance of power in Karachi in favor of PTI? Would that not mean a suicide for MQM?
cutenice62
Member
Q: "@Cuties, please tell me truth, you think he is true because he took oath on Quraan or coz he spoke against MQM. He has leveled very serious allegations, if you are convinced that he has spoken truth, then he or someone on his behalf should file case in free courts. What General Pasha and Kayani are doing, they should immediately ban MQM and do operation against them."
Yes coz of his oath i am firm he is true(as muslim i am firm). he has evidence which he obtained as interior minister of sindh and then you can read (javed ch column which he wrote).I dont know zardari directly instructed him to do this, but in politics many tactics can be used to perform such type of steps. Cases will never be filed coz zardari and army establishment needs MQM uptil some point we don't know,
Regarding Imam hussain statement, i am with you, it is not ok, never in past nor today ,neither in future but i was of the opinion people are using it for their selves/politics.
"He also said on Quran that Zardari did not ask or sanction him to do what he did? Do you believe this statement too?"
i have not heard this, but if he said, i am again firm he is right but then my analysis says that some one pumped him up indirectly for zardari's political grip on MQM. now a days MQM has just become the most foolish and puppet party of Pakistan in hands of mushi first and now in zardari's hand.
sochopakistani
Member
Why not?, if IK wins the trust of people of Karachi, it is his right to win from Karachi, no dispute about that. No power in the world can stop him from winning if People wants him to.
sochopakistani
Member
@Cutie, ZM caimed that MQM is conspiring against Pakistan with enemies. Then you mentioned, Zaradari and Army needs MQM?? Does this mean pak army needs enemy of Pakistan for some hidden agenda?? Please explain this logic..
What is your opinion on his statement that I can kill 10,000 people if needed??
cutenice62
Member
yes army needs them, actually army made MQM to have hold on political governments, so that when ever they needs to interfere in politics they can do in national favor. MQM created any problem in whole mush era???in zia erra??? no not at all.........
when u are living in a world where human are resources (HRM), so we are treated like tissue papers, use and then just destory, coz we are 3rd world country playing in hands of USA, IMF, World Bank, Saudia arab and our own army.
sochopakistani
Member
@Cutie, argument is getting interesting.. So now you are saying Pak army created an organisation to hold on Pakistan political map. Same organisation was / is working to break the Pakistan. Does this mean Army is working to break the Pakistan? If this is true, then we really are tissue papers. as per Zayed hamid Pak Army is the one who has to do Ghazwa-e hind.. this is too much to digest..
cutenice62
Member
ghar ja k jawab deta hoon :p
sochopakistani
Member
Have a nice and safe journey back to home.
scandinavian
Member
Naeem-Ul-Haq in a very interesting program.
Btw: Naeem Ul-Haq will be one of the key players in Sindh for PTI, inshallah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2a7dZW6456Y
Rizwan Qaimkhani
Member
Yeh jhaag ki Tsunami hai, jahan say uthi hai waheen khutum ho jay gi. No future for a politician here who claims to have support of PPP corrupt 60%. Imran has no agenda so as the people he represent. Look at the name, if everyone will get justice, there won't be any need for this party's existence. It is shitload of crap. Na nou mun tail ho ga na Sita nachay gi:)
Dusky
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@cutenice62: "dear Quran hath may lay k jhoat bolna gunah-e-kabeera hai, agar ZM jhota hai tu ISLAMI asool k mutabiq us k mukhalif quran utha k usay jhota keh dain........woo sacha hai lakin sachayee siyasat k liyay use ki hai,"
Lagta ha aap na Dr Qadeer ka column perh liya ha aaj ka jang main;)
http://jang.com.pk/jang/nov2011-daily/07-11-2011/col1.htm
Regarding Zulfi Mirza, now that he is getting on PPP minstairs tail, would be interesting to see the out come. Also, any commenys on this news.
http://e.jang.com.pk/11-07-2011/Karachi/pic.asp?picname=106.gif
scandinavian
Member
@RQ
Keep on living in denial. Keep the head in the sand in the hope, but the Tsunami will also hit you sooner or later, inshallah.
cutenice62
Member
mqm was created by zia to end jamatay islami and ppp hold on karachi, so that he can his fellows can do smuggling easily, when zia died they get freed and what happened? two operations, why in the world those two operations were not successful coz they get out of hands of army and gone to RAW, but mush again get them up close to army by giving them a dream to rule over Pakistan. and result is infront of u...
regarding jung new of mansoor wasan, its nothing then a **** kushti, agar yeh sab isi tarhan sabooat k sath mukadmay karwatay aik dosray pay tu aaj corruption ka naam na hota..........sirf sindh card ki base pay ppp vote bachanay ki kosish kar rahi hai, but i think agar sindhi bashaoor sabit howay tu woo qoam parast jamatoon ko vote dain gi interior sindh may, agar naroon pay chalna hai tu sindh sailaab may he dooba rahay ga or hamay afsoos rahay ga,
Dusky
Member
"regarding jung new of mansoor wasan, its nothing then a **** kushti,"
Why it's a **** kushti when he break lose against PPP but a truth when he talk's about MQM? What's adhering this selective behavior?
"mqm was created by zia to end jamatay islami and ppp hold on karachi, so that he can his fellows can do smuggling easily,"
Nazobillah, kia ameer-ul-momeneen smugling main bhe involve thay?
Rizwan Qaimkhani
Member
Wasn't it the same JI used by Zia in Afghan War in the same time frame? Your hypothesis does not hold water. Go consult your afternoon newspaper again.
cutenice62
Member
@dusky
afioan or ashlay ki sumgling say kon ameer howa???foji gernailoon k bachay.......
or jamatay islami jihad may nahi bhutto k khilaf use hoi thi, jihad k liyay alag say jamatain banaee gayein thi or jamatay islami ka bohat role tha lakin karachi may un ka boriya lapait dia gaya tha,
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