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Tsunami Hitting Tsunami In Lahore Jalsa

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  1. mawan1971

    IK cannot find a worst time when he started speech and strong winds and rains create technical hurdles to live cast the speech. IK want to make it a Paniput and it is becoming a Paniput after rains. Speech so far was good but not extra ordinary impressive. More still to come.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 14:56 #
  2. adeel

    کس حاجی نے کہا تھا کہ دو بجے کے بجاۓ چھ بجے اپنا بھاشن شروع کریں

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 15:00 #
  3. mawan1971

    Well it is usual routine that leaders comes on stage after three four hours of other leadership to address, rain and storm bad luck. I cannot see his address anymore, Nothing on Dunya TV and Samaa TV, I don't know if any channel is still live casting and can we access it from North America.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 15:16 #
  4. sam45

    People can plan as much as they want, in this case establishment!! It is Allah who has the bigger plan!! This time I strongly believe Allah will help Pakistan!! and destroy evil which has been going on for last 65 years!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 15:17 #
  5. khanamer

    He can promise as ,much as he wants, he start showing he is serious by being punctual on his jalsas....

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 15:30 #
  6. mawan1971

    Justice cannot be done to comment on IK jalsa unless you have not completely listen it. I have so far listened only before rain part and waiting for more to come on internet. I have heard few TV anchors and analyst, and as a whole Jalsa is called successful but long term impacts hard to say any so far. PTI in the race but with electable no Tsunami visible still, ideology was buried when IK himself accepted political garbage from all other parties.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 15:42 #
  7. memalik

    Mr. Mawan....I think IK did the right thing by having intra party elections this allowed people to elect their representatives. Also, after this the second screening process will futher eliminate some leftover corrupt people by only giving tickets to those who can represent Tehrik-e-Insaaf. After all this is pakistan, so do not expect to have angels in this party but I do think it is relatively much much better party than others. Please give PTI a chance and inshAllah things will go in the right direction for pakistan...

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 16:30 #
  8. mawan1971

    The speech was not delivered completely, no new part in recordings on internet. Very bad luck, when Jalsa was on peak momentum, rain and strong blow of winds created big hurdles and IK have to leave the speech incomplete and people start moving out. No one was having doubt that IK will be able to gather a big crowd, he did managed to gather big crowd but what about other factor the impact of Jalsa. No impact of Jalsa is a big failure, weather to blame mainly, but whatever disappointing media show to impress people outside of Jalsa ground. He is front runner against PML(N) but if someone thinks there will be Tsunami, no 23rd March Jalsa is over and no Tsunami visible. I will call this show a kick start of election campaign.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 16:35 #
  9. Arain

    An interesting observation from Sohail Warriach; he thinks that the jalsa is almost the same as of Oct 30th but, unlike the last time, 80% people have come from outside and only 20% are from Lahore.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aaEiH8wMN1k

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 16:40 #
  10. mawan1971

    Yes, it is good observation, I talked to my friends in Lahore, Lahore is not as jubilant as it was in October 30/2011. If IK had depended only on Lahore people Jalsa could have been a flop show.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 16:50 #
  11. Sharp Saw

    Apparently, the PTI entourage online does not seem as jubilant after this gathering as it does after other jalsas from October 2011 onwards. Otherwise, they are abruptly posting pictures from the jalsas. This time things seem to be different.

    Also, unlike the jalsa on 23 December 2012, the camera angles on television showing the crowd were from a high vantage point where the entire or most of the ground was clearly visible. The camera angles that I saw today were from a much lower vantage point and from the West end of the ground. So, there could have been spaces within the crowd which were not visible from these camera angles.

    Finally, we must not be sarcastic about the rainfall.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 18:52 #
  12. Anonymous

    ^ Well when biased admin would block every single PTI supporter on this forum, you can't expect much from N-Leaguians to do the job.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 19:02 #
  13. Sharp Saw

    @Alnisa

    Even on another forum, the situation is different from what it usually is up until now. Of course it might change with time.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 19:09 #
  14. adeel

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 19:11 #
  15. mawan1971

    A point everyone is raising and almost all neutral observers are highlighting the absence of Lahore people, after all jalsa was in Lahori people's backyard. Most of people saying 75-80% crowd was from outside Lahore and Lahoris did not gave this jalsa much importance. This is a negative sign for PTI, Lahore always is a trend setter for national politics and is a headquarter of PTI and its chief as well. Anyways campaign has started and a lot of hard work required to turn the wave in Punjab towards PTI. General perception these day is that wind is blowing towards PML(N). I am not convinced that PTI has got a momentum to sweep the election, time will tell whether they are going to pick up the momentum or it is left only to electable. No new slogan, no new wave, no new energy and no new Janoon, nothing with a big bang but still game is on.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 19:13 #
  16. adeel

  17. adnak

    In today's talk show 'Takrar' of Express News, Zaeem Qadri of Noon League said

    عمران کا آج کا جلسہ اسکے پچھلے جلسے کا عشر عشیر بھی نہیں تھا

    Perhaps he is very weak in Urdu to know the meaning of عشر عشیر. However, his body language clearly dipicted that he was worried.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 20:21 #
  18. Zoab_Khan

    Zaeem Qadri drips arrogance. Have you seen how he talks down to the common man and then calls him leader of common man.

    Also his party stance was that the last jalsa was 10-20k tops. He means this one was 5k tops?

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 21:19 #
  19. Mr Meem

    Well when biased admin

    alnisa aka Desi Baji,

    you have no idea what you are talking about. Admin has the right to ban anybody anytime. Who are you to criticize our dear admin???

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 21:31 #
  20. khanamer

    Please let me know in brief?

    Was there any oath taken by 80,000 newly elected members?

    Did PTI issued thier manifesto?

    Did the 1 million "tabdeeli Razakaar' were there?

    If none of the above happened, then what was said? Apart from songs !

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 21:31 #
  21. Mr Meem

    oath taken by 80,000 newly elected members

    these PTIian fools don't how much days you need to take oath of 80,000 newly elected members.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 21:35 #
  22. khanamer

    @ mr. Meem

    I mean that was the main purpose of this jalsa? Isn't it?

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 21:36 #
  23. Mr Meem

    khanamer,

    Yes you are right Bro. I am with you.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 21:42 #
  24. mawan1971

    Thanks Adeel for posting a article from "The Guardian". If Guardian is reporting 100,000 people I would not call it a big hit. Last few weeks so much hype was created, millions were spend on media advertising, Lahore streets were over flowing with posters and banners. Please do not think I am biased, head count was never a issue to me but IK's agenda I was desperately waiting. Speech was ordinary, similar political promises who all politician made. He said I have not deliver my speech yet, it is in my hand (he was showing it), unfortunately that speech was not delivered. Khan may have seen so many important cricket events washed away, he will be upset the most on this show. Political analyst from tomorrow show will describe how badly momentum was hit.

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 22:01 #
  25. Mr Meem

    سونامی کی پانی پت کی جنگ بارش کے پانی میں پانی پانی ہو گئی ۔۔۔

    سونامی کے دس لاکھ لوگ پارش کے پانی کے سامنے شیشہ پالائی ہوئی دیوار بن گئے ۔۔۔

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 22:08 #
  26. sam45

    Nothing claimed, was achieved!! I mean not a single point!!....... STILL it is a huge success for our Pti trolls and some paid media!! wow! Common people are not as stupid as these people think they are!!
    10 lac people will come, was claimed by imran khan, and only 40-50 thousand people came at most!! how the hell can this be a success! and what about the 80 thousand elected representatives!! just shows how intelligent our so called educated class really is!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 22:10 #
  27. Faarigh Jazbati

    جناب میم صاحب

    بارش کی وجہ سے کھیل کچھ دیر کیلئے روک دینا پڑا تھا

    @sam45

    آپ کہیں محترم پرویز رشید صاحب کے رشتہ دار تو نہیں ہیں ، یا محض بندے گننے والا شوق مشترکہ ہے

    ف ج

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 22:10 #
  28. Mr Meem

    ف ج بھائی ۔۔

    پانی پت کی جنگ ہو رہی تھی یا کھیل ہو رہا تھا ؟

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 22:12 #
  29. Faarigh Jazbati

    جناب میم صاحب

    جنگ ، کھیل ، محبت ، سیاست سب ایک جیسی کشمکش لئے ہوۓ ہوتے ہیں اور ان میں سب جائز ہو جاتا ہے

    ف ج

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 22:14 #
  30. Mr Meem

    ف ج بھائی ۔

    اب معلوم نہیں سونامی جیتی یا بارش جیتی لیکن اج کے اس کھیل میں اپ جیتے میں ہارا ۔۔۔۔

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 22:16 #
  31. Faarigh Jazbati

    جناب یہ کیا بات ہوئی

    ابھی تو کھیل شروع ہوا ہے اور آپ ابھی سے ہارنے جیتنے کی باتیں کرنے لگے ہیں

    دھیرج سائیں دھیرج

    ف ج

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 22:19 #
  32. khanamer

    As per D/L method, PTI lost todays match

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 22:39 #
  33. Faarigh Jazbati

    خان جی

    آپ تو اب این ایف پی کی ٹویٹس سے اپنی سوچ کے چراغ جلا رہے ہیں

    ف ج

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 22:41 #
  34. sam45

    @ farigh jazbati....

    "آپ کہیں محترم پرویز رشید صاحب کے رشتہ دار تو نہیں ہیں ، یا محض بندے گننے والا شوق مشترکہ ہے"

    how the hell does this answer any of the points I raised!! please keep this sort of maskera pian to yourself!! definitely not a local hun!?

    You mean to say there were 10 lac people at the concert?! and 80k elected representative! And there were 40 lac people at TuQ's jalsa!?!

    enough drama from farigh people, don't mean you, just the general pti support class! there comes a time, when normal common people, silent majority, starts replying back!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 22:44 #
  35. Arain

    اس جلسے کا ایک مثبت پہلو یہ ہے کہ کم از کم کرسیاں تو اغوا ہونے سے بچ گیں - لاہوریوں نے خان صاحب کی لاج رکھ لی

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 22:47 #
  36. khanamer

    @jazbati

    That is because you do not talk on the serious points raised...

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 23:04 #
  37. Faarigh Jazbati

    خان جی

    فرمائیے، آپ کی تفنن طبع اور فکری ، نظریاتی ، سیاسی و ذہنی بلوغت و انگیخت کیلئے کیا خدمت کر سکتا ہوں

    ف ج

    Posted 2 years ago on 23 Mar 2013 23:17 #
  38. mawan1971

    It is been long time no PTI supporter on this forum after the 23rd March Jalsa. I was hoping that there will be a lot of pictures, videos and jubilation from PTI supporters related to 23rd March Jalsa.

    Posted 2 years ago on 24 Mar 2013 10:06 #
  39. khanamer

    @ Fj,
    if you can work on yourself and your mates in PTI, that would be great service for Nation, but again, pigs can fly, woman can become president of US, fish can live on tree and PTI members can talk sense...

    Posted 2 years ago on 24 Mar 2013 10:29 #
  40. mawan1971

    @Khanamer
    But the thing is brother FJ is not accepting that he is a PTI supporter. I would not call him PTI supporter again unless he himself accepts. What is the issue, is there too many PTI supporters Banned on this forum, they are not excited after the 23rd March Jalsa or anything else, any guesses?

    Posted 2 years ago on 24 Mar 2013 10:42 #
  41. khanamer

    @mawan1971,

    I guess admin can tell us better if all of them are banned or not, even they are banned here, there is not much of the activity on official forum of PTI and other pti backed forums...As you have rightly pointed out, the Jalsa have failed to bring the momentum or impact which was needed, it was more or less like an inning of Afridi, which create excitement but in the end, nothing of significance...

    with all the media attention, with all the money spent on adv. and management of this jalsa, PTI could have done better by having relatively small jalsaas in rural areas and then the bigger three or four days before the B day in big cities like Karachi and Lahore... but in key tu ganga hi ulti behti hay... so they started from big city, failed, and now they will struggle to get attention in small cities and town...

    As far as FJ is concerned he is PTI supporter and have shown it his affiliation with them over the years on this forum... so knows him well... and as you may understand well, it is very hard to get a PTIan into a sensible discussion or let me put it this way, sensible discussion and PTI members cannot be used in same sentence unless NOT is in there...

    Posted 2 years ago on 24 Mar 2013 11:22 #
  42. mawan1971

    @khanamer
    Yes October 30/2011 was like a Afridi's 38 ball record breaking century. Afridi was never able to repeat that inning although as a whole he had some other good innings but none to that level. No doubt that PTI were not able to retain that momentum they held that time. Now this was Lahore, Lahore was overflowing with banners, posters etc, media hype, internet campaigns and result 20-25% of Lahore only there. Lahore is technology hub as well, most of internet users and news channel watchers are there if this is situation here what will be in other Larger Cities of Punjab which definitely are far behind in technology compare to Lahore.

    Posted 2 years ago on 24 Mar 2013 11:57 #
  43. Faarigh Jazbati

    خان جی

    آپ کے میرے بارے میں تبصرے اور تجزیے نے میرا آج کا دن انتہائی خوشگوار کر دیا ہے . اللہ آپ کو خوش رکھے اور جناب پرویز رشید المعروف کرسیاں گنن والی سرکار کے سایہ شاگردی میں قائم دائم رکھے

    اگر واقعی میرے سیاسی نظریات اور رجحانات کو جاننے کی کھجلی ہو تو میری آئی ڈی پر کلک کریں اور میرے پچھلے پانچ سال کے شروع کردہ دھاگوں کو پڑھ لیجئے گا

    آہو آہو والی مسکراہٹ کے ساتھ
    ف ج

    Posted 2 years ago on 24 Mar 2013 12:09 #
  44. imtiazahmed

    May be I am wrong, but I could not search Qasuri clan in the jalsa although Khurshid Ahmed Qasuri and his wife remained prominent in all previous small and big jalsas of Imran Khan. All I could watch the most prominent ones on the right and left hand of Imran Khan were Shah Mahmood Qureshi and Javed Hashmi. Even if Qasuri et al were in the jalsa, they were like back benchers.

    Something is wrong somewhere in PTI ranks.

    Posted 2 years ago on 24 Mar 2013 12:30 #
  45. mawan1971

    Well, i will be more interested about D.G.Khan legharis where were they in the Jalsa. There is a lot going about them that they are joining PML(N). They are not denying it, may be serious discussions really on.

    Posted 2 years ago on 24 Mar 2013 12:46 #
  46. khanamer

    Not only kasuri clan was not to be seen, but i also missed the legharies and bosan...

    Posted 2 years ago on 24 Mar 2013 12:58 #
  47. short life endless plans

    It seems as if the tsunami has swept away all it's supporters from this forum. Not even an attempt at posting photo-shopped images of the jlsa. Moral has sank through through bottom.

    Posted 2 years ago on 25 Mar 2013 9:36 #
  48. Mr Meem

    It seems as if the tsunami has swept away all it's supporters from this forum. Not even an attempt at posting photo-shopped images of the jlsa. Moral has sank through through bottom.

    SLEP, another Joker!!

    Posted 2 years ago on 25 Mar 2013 9:56 #
  49. Mr Meem

    @SLEP

    Also, U may need to check with the admin. All PTI'ites are banned.

    Containers, and mobile jams, and ID bans dont stop the tsunami. :)

    Posted 2 years ago on 25 Mar 2013 14:13 #
  50. short life endless plans

    U may need to check with the admin. All PTI'ites are banned.
    ___________________________________________________________

    don't behave like trolls then.

    Posted 2 years ago on 25 Mar 2013 22:27 #
  51. adeel

  52. short life endless plans

    @adeel
    This is the 'Qaid kaPakistan' and 'Iqbal ka Pakistan' that trolls want to create. Alos goes to show the cause of attraction for participants.

    Posted 2 years ago on 27 Mar 2013 11:00 #
  53. mawan1971

    Now that PTI Lahore jaalsa impact is completely over, let us analyze what PTI need to to do next. Soon after 23rd March jalsa was Mianwali jalsa which was a complete flop show. Point proven that if PTI goes for a jalsa without central level preperation, no media hype and big ad money the show is likely to give a negative message. Time will tell how PTI plan for their next jalsa, they are walking on a very tight rope now.

    Posted 1 year ago on 28 Mar 2013 14:42 #
  54. justhuman

    Mawan1971. From Some independant sources .. the Jaalsa was bigger than previous jalsaa. The people like Najam Sethi said Imran Khan won the quarter final if not semi final , Zafar ali shah from N league also praised the Jalsa in one of the show.

    While Jalsaa was not that big as its hype but it was bigger than the last Jalsa , while Rain and weather was not that favourable like last time.

    If Jalsaas are one of the barometers of the popularity .. N League still need to do similar Jalsa in same ground. People are comparing PTI Jalsa with PTI Jalsa. Because there is no N League Jalsa to be compared.

    I think PTI needs to create less hype and more work . I saw Lack of Preparation for Mianwali Jalsa that brought the average number of crowd.

    Posted 1 year ago on 28 Mar 2013 16:22 #
  55. mawan1971

    @justhuman
    Problem is different Jalsa was big, fine, but can PTI do another Jalsa like that or I would say 3 to 4 before election day, I would say no because of the time factor. This jalsa was organized by central leadership with the help of media and huge ad compaign plus a one month time. Now ad compaign will be to vote PTI not for a specific jalsa. and central leadership cannot focus on one area jalsa. You will see more problems in PTI camp next few days.

    Posted 1 year ago on 28 Mar 2013 18:22 #
  56. mawan1971

    Talat Hussain had a great comparison between PML(N) and PTI today in his "Live with Talat".
    http://www.zemtv.com/2013/03/28/live-with-talat-pakistan-tehreek-insaf-vs-pakistan-muslim-league-n-28th-march-2013/

    Posted 1 year ago on 28 Mar 2013 18:46 #

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