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"Two 'Suspected' Robbers Killed and Hanged by Mob in Sialkot."

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  1. The two men allegedly killed two and injured four during a robbery early Sunday morning on main Daska Road near Doburji Malhiyaan.

    Police officials said that villagers chased the robbers as they tried to flee the scene of the crime.
    District police officer (DPO) Waqar Ahmad Chohan said that the mob cornered the robbers outside the street and began pelting them with stones. “A large crowd started throwing stones and bricks at the men as they tried to escape. Both men were killed in the attack,” he said.

    Chohan said that the crowd attacked the men with stones, bricks, iron rods, hockey sticks and wooden sticks.
    Later in the day, locals placed the dead bodies of the accused dacoits on the main Sialkot-Daska Road and staged an anti-police demonstration. “The Sialkot Saddar police have failed to protect the lives of the people and they haven’t arrested the scores of criminals in the area,” said resident Liaqat, adding that the people had decided to take the law into their own hands.

    Locals demanded immediate legal action against Sialkot police officials for failing to control the rising crime rate in the region.

    The incident took place in Hajipura police precincts during sehri hours, when four masked men were looting a family of six on Butter Road. When the family, including Zeeshan Qadir, his wife and four children tried to resist the robbers, they opened fire on the family.

    The robbers killed 19-year-old Bilal on the spot and Zeeshan died in the hospital two hours later.
    According to Rescue 1122 officials, several people heard the gun shots in the street. “We all gathered to ask where the sounds were coming from when we saw the men trying to escape,” said Shahnawaz, a neighbor, adding that the crowd managed to stop two of the men.

    “We found out they had killed our friends and we knew that the police would let them off so we killed them,” he said. The mob also hanged the bodies of the robbers as people came and pelted rocks at them in a public square.

    “The protestors wanted to burn the dead bodies but we stopped them and dispersed the crowd,” said Sialkot district coordination officer (DCO) Mujahid Sher Dil. DPO Waqar Ahmad Chohan, district emergency officer Sialkot Syed Kamal Abid and senior district administration officials reached the spot and negotiated with the outraged people to recover the bodies of the alleged robbers.

    DPO Chohan assured the crowd that stern legal action would be taken against police officials neglecting their duties. Four hours after being assured by police officials and the DCO, the crowd handed over the bodies to the police
    The bodies of the alleged dacoits and their victims were sent to Allama Iqbal Memorial DHQ Hospital Sialkot for autopsy. The hospital administration has said that the four people seriously injured by the dacoits are presently in critical condition.

    It is learnt the SC Has taken a Sou Motto of the case

    Source:The Express Tribune

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 9:32 #
  2. SAR

    this is a very upsetting news
    it was painful to watch the video on geo news!
    people have gone out of control!... they have become animals
    police and judiciary is useless

    2 brothers in my vicinity were charged for sectarian killings... and their links with sectarian outfits were no secrets... they were arrsted but then released!!

    this is the social justice system we have

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 10:19 #
  3. COVER EARLIER AT http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/allah-ka-azaab-kyon-na-aata-hum-persee-decide

    THESE KIDS WERE NOT "ROBBERS" SO PLEASE CUT THIS CRAP!!!

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 10:25 #
  4. habibtahir

    they were not involved in any sort of robbery ....
    Both brothers were the grandsons of Jamaat e Islami Sialkot General Secretary......and left their home to play cricket

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 11:04 #
  5. Hussain Farooqui

    Such things happen when public lose trust on law.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 11:05 #
  6. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    When you merciless, brutally kill those or loved ones of those who preach message of ALLAH ALMIGHTY, 'goodness', 'betterment', then what are you asking for ?

    Its obvious, you are asking for 'qehr' (in urdu, arabic) of ALLAH ALMIGHTY.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 11:56 #
  7. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    The title of this thread needs to be changed. Those two who were ruthlessly 'murdered', they didn't commit any robbery. In-fact they committed no crime at all.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 14:58 #
  8. Saleem Bajwa

    Alas! This is the city of Iqbal today, which used to boast about the highest average of educated people, even before the British Empire. What a pity that now it has gone so low in its moral values.

    Pathetic, indeed very pathetic, hard to believe that all this happened in the Holiest Month of Ramzan and at the time when God-fearing people world over are struggling to do more than their capacity to save precious lives. Any one who claim to be Muslim and then cremate or desiccate a dead body, is a perverted reprobate just like any suicide bomber.

    What I find even more disturbing in this case that every thing happened in the presence of police, and yet there are different versions of this sad saga. I do not know much about the other places, but I know that from the beginning Sialkot Police has been inefficient and corrupt to its core. . Here the robbers once came to Sathi Plaza, shot and kill my nephew at point blank, and gave us a lifelong distress, but the city police never did anything to catch the culprits.

    May Allah guide us all.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 15:49 #
  9. scindian

    Allah Allah
    I watched the video on GEW News that was so terrible
    My GOD !...., this happenig in whole contry, people are going to be extremist.

    No words to condemn this cruel act ....?

    Alass...

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 18:18 #
  10. shirazi

    In past mobs attacked alleged blasphemers who happened to be minority community or sect and repeatedly got away with that. That attitude lead to this unfortunate incident where even Hafiz Quran died this way. In US breach of peace is serious offence and police can nab you for that.

    We need to develop more tolerance in our society. Though I really don't know HOW? CJ takes suo moto on this but doesn't do anything on blasphemy law, the root of intolerance. That tells you how visionary he is.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 18:39 #
  11. rehanahd

    This is what our character is ... short temper, morally and physically corrupt, abusive, killers etc... rather we r not behaving like humans,,, we r animals...

    We say earthquake and floods r natural calamity... i doubt.. its azab from Allah almighty... this all we deserve due our lovely nature n cruel work.......

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 19:32 #
  12. Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 21:13 #
  13. Sweettruth

    This is shameful and those who killed them are animals and worst than animals. Talibans used to do same in FATA/NWFP and their acts of terrorism/barbarism have spread to other parts of the country. I have always disagreed with Taliban ideology which is nothing but ideology of Stone Age and jangal raj. Few years ago in another shameful incident some robbers were burnt by angry mob in Karachi. Where is our nation going? perhaps towards Stone Age.

    @hariskhan

    I hardly agree with you on may issues but one one point I fully agree with you. Such shameful incidents will happen in the absence of justice.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 21:39 #
  14. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    If I was there, I would have killed all those who were hitting those young 15, 17 year old boys, with my bare hands, with the sticks that they were using.

    I can't stand this level of 'be-hissi' within our people.

    (1) I want ALL those who were involved in this murder to be;

    (a) arrested immediately
    (b) charged with the crime of murder
    (c) convicted for this crime
    (d) given immediate death sentence

    I want this death sentence to be executed immediately .. in! a public! square.

    They should ALL! be killed in the in the same fashion .. brutal, merciless hits with sticks.

    I want an example to be made out of ALL of them.

    (2) Those who were watching and did nothing, who didn't do anything to save those young boys, I want ALL of them to be awarded the same death sentence. I want this death sentence to be carried out immediately!, for all of them as well.

    I want ALL of this to be done immediately!!. In-fact I want it done, right!! now!!.

    I can't!! stand this injustice. I will not!! stand like a dead guy while injustice is being done right in-front of me. I will not!! tolerate injustice.

    --------------------------------------------------------

    The only way I see of ending this 'be-hissi' is .. start sentencing 'be-his' people to immediate death, those who don't stop injustice that happens right in-front of them.

    One way or another, this 'be-hissi' has got to be ended.

    Innocent people have started loosing their lives, because of it. I will not tolerate this 'be-hissi' anymore. I will find ways of ending it.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 21:41 #
  15. Above video is in three parts;

    1) Both the brothers are seen hanged in Daska-Sialkot chowk down the high erected tube well poles.

    2)The mob witnesses the brutal killing; neither police nor the civilian about 150 round that place seeing the killing being carried out; with iron rods, hockey sticks and dandas---but did not come forward to stop this neither the number of armed police officers present at the scene did anything.

    3) Then both the dead bodies are transported in trolley escorted by police; with their heads hanging out of the trolley. Height of cruelty is seen when both the dead bodies are thrown out of trolley on the road by police person in CVS.

    It only happens in the land called Pakistan... where Imaan and Fear of God have certainly gone out to Pleiades .

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 21:46 #
  16. فارغ جذباتی

    My dear HK

    "If I was there, I would have killed all those who were hitting those young 15, 17 year old boys"

    What a irony
    Isnt this the same attitude and mentality which led to this horrific incident.

    We need to learn to control our emotions in all situations.

    These kind of incident will keep on happening unless we introduce the sanctity of life and respect for human being in our education system and this concept is hammered to people through media as well.

    FJ

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 21:46 #
  17. Sweettruth

    @hariskhan

    Our society is going towards barbaric Stone Age/jungle raj. I have been told by one of my relatives who witnessed a brutal killing merely because of a road rage incident in Karachi. People think violence is the solution of all anger/frustration and disagreement. Justice/Police system in our country is a complete failure and piblic do not mind taking law into their own hands.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 21:50 #
  18. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @Faarigh Jazbati: Has education 'alone' ever cured a society ?

    How long has it been that we'v been teaching, preaching goodness to people of Pakistan ? 60+ years ? Is that not enough time ?

    Human beings, people, 'only' function 'properly' when they 'know' there will be 'reprisals' if they go out of line. You can see it all over the world. You can see it all throughout history.

    ..and these people went far far beyond 'out of line'.

    For starters, I want ALL of those who took part in this brutal murder, that they be HANGED!! in OPEN!! PUBLIC!! right!! now!!.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 21:54 #
  19. فارغ جذباتی

    Here we go again

    HK's demand for public hanging.

    there is no use reasoning with you.

    May allah give your heart tranquality and peace especially in Ramadhan.

    FJ

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 21:58 #
  20. Ab tou Faraq e Subh main Bujhaney lagi Hayaat
    Baray-Illah; Kitnay pehar reh gai hey Raat

    Her teergi main; Tou ney utaari hey Roshnee
    Ab Khud utter kay aa; keh siah ter hey kainaat

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:01 #
  21. Sweettruth

    @hk

    I hope you condemn Taliban's acts of barbarism/terrorism with the same intensity as you are doing now. When Taliban used to hang people in Swat I used to have an argument with one of my Jamati relatives; he was of the view that hanged person in the city square was a criminal and deserved hanging. My view was Taliban are no authority and should not decide fate of people even criminals. I always condemned lynching whether by taliban or by any angry mob in the street. Some people on the same forum supported burning of robbers in Karachi.

    Our society has become an extremely dangerous and heading towards an intolerant society.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:02 #
  22. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @Faarigh Jazbati: Common!. Those two boys, aged 15, 17 were brutally murdered. The younger one died within 10 mins. The elder were had to 'bear' their beatings for 2 hrs, before he also died. Then their bodies were mercilessly hung in open public.

    The people who did this, deserve no!! less!!.

    Have you forgotten Islam's ways ? i.e., an eye for an eye ? blood for blood ?

    Why are you obsessed with me ? Why do you forget Islam's standards of justice ?

    What the heck! is wrong with you ? o_O

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:03 #
  23. @ HK

    "Have you forgotten Islam's ways ? i.e., an eye for an eye ? blood for blood ?"

    If you know this, how can you support taliban? Or does Islamic rules don't apply on taliban?

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:06 #
  24. فارغ جذباتی

    @ HK

    You dont know how disturbed I got after watching only one minute of that video, I couldnt take it. My heart bleeds for those two innocent.

    Yes, Islam call for eye for an eye and I whole heartdly accept that. Having said that, loosing sight of the things and getting highly charged and emotional is not the islamic way.

    Yes the people involved in this henious act should be brought to justice but we should not get carried away.

    FJ

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:08 #
  25. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @UmeR: First, those incidents have not been investigated.

    Secondly, in case of those other events;

    (1) Pakistani authorities, as well as
    (2) people of Pakistan

    have 'more than' 'conveniently' 'accepted' that which was right in-front of them, as if it were fact;

    (1) without any! investigation
    (1) without questioning it
    (2) without thinking it through
    (3) without going way way deep into it

    as if its something that is straight forward. Which it is not.

    Thirdly, that's not one individual event. There are scores of events.

    Fourth, those events, incidents happened at the 'collective' level. Not! on an 'individual' level.

    Fifth, they are part of a much bigger reality (i.e., the great game) than this.

    Sixth, many other foreign entities, nation states, groups of nation states, groups of people, entities, organizations, companies, etc etc are involved in that.

    Seventh, the people involved in this! case are both citizens of this nation

    Eighth, the people involved in those events are of multiple nationalities

    Ninth, the people involved in those events are from foreign nation states with whom Pakistan has no treaties of any kind or worth, which makes it harder, more complex to deal with

    Tenth, Pakistan is at war, even if it is a 'covert' war, Pakistan is at war with those foreign nation states, or their companies, organizations, their people, groups of people, etc etc

    Response to that would be far more bigger than what we have in this simple straight forward case of brutal murder. This murder happened in! public, in-front! of citizens of the city of Sialkot, and! was recorded by many cameras'.

    You can't compare the two.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:10 #
  26. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @Faarigh Jazbati: How! the heck! have I gotten carried away ? o_O

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:12 #
  27. @ HK

    You think brutally killing of two people is worse than blowing up hundreds of Muslims praying in a mosque?

    My heart bleeds for these young souls, and they've my sympathies, but are you condemning these acts, just because it is being said these were the sons of a member of Jamat e Islami? Is that what made you sympathize with them. And those on whom suicide blasts are being carried on are they less of a human or Muslims?

    Great game or not, that doesn't justify their blind killing of innocent people. It is eye for an eye and Not two eyes for an eye, not an eye and a leg for an eye, not your life for an eye.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:18 #
  28. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @UmeR: Either you are not reading what I'm saying or everything that I'm saying is going way over your head.

    This is not about JI or its people. This is about justice, speedy! justice.

    I wasn't talking about JI's people on this thread. I am talking about two young boys who were murdered for nothing!, in! public. You have started blaming me. You are focusing on me, rather than focusing on the crime right in-front of us, and dealing! with that crime effectively!.

    When those people were murdered, I called for the same! i.e., (1) immediate, fast investigation. (2) those who were found guilty to be arrested, charged with the crime, convicted, and then made an example for this nation as well as the rest of the world.

    This is the same thing I'v called for here. In this case, since we have a video available, we can complete the investigation faster! than in other cases.

    Why are you focusing on me ? Why are you not focusing on the crime that is right in-front of us ?

    What! the heck! is wrong with you ?! o_O

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:24 #
  29. @ Hk

    Sorry, I disturbed you.
    Carry on...t/c

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:30 #
  30. Haris Khan

    "If I was there, I would have killed all those who were hitting those young 15, 17 year old boys, with my bare hands, with the sticks that they were using."

    It is the first time that I'm with you.

    Yes, all those who were involved in this cold-blooded, mercilessly killing of two young boys, deserve the same. They can easily be identified from the video, so they must be killed the same way they killed the innocent boys. Nothing less is justified.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:34 #
  31. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    If I knew decisions were being made, actions were being taken, and that to with fast! speed, if I saw justice being delivered, if I had trust in;

    (1) people of Pakistan
    (2) authorities in Pakistan responsible for dealing with this situation

    to do their job with respect to this incident, I would have never needed to be this 'furious', this 'angry', this 'frustrated'.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:45 #
  32. This country has gone lawless.

    The supreme courts of Pakistan that about two years back, public could reinstate them with lot lots of efforts and nation is duly proud of it and we do hold our heads high to see that a Free supreme Court is up there -------------but when we see that all the orders so far passed by the honourable courts have very belligerently been ignored by the high ups of the government; may it be the Supreme court verdict in NRO case or Zardari money corruption case and his case of foreign banks accounts filled with looted money from Pakistan.

    When it is seen that the high up class can get away by ignoring the Supreme Court’s order so easily; this thing does travels down and --- strangely it is translated into a kind of perception that invariably people stop fearing the law and the respect for the court orders. The nincompoop courts which cannot get their orders obeyed; have no right to stay up there.

    We have seen the video that the two unfortunate robbers reportedly; trying to escape were caught by the people. The agony and the grievance of the house hold who were robbed and that one of their young relative was killed in scuffle with the robbers; is one thing; but if they had faith in the law forces or in the courts; they would have not killed them so brutally.

    This country has gone lawless; and anarchy will invariably fill this gape.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:45 #
  33. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    There was no robbery. There was some rift while these boys were playing cricket and then this happened.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 22:57 #
  34. For the sake of sanctity of law and order of the Country; the court Judges who could not get their court orders obeyed; must be de-crowned without any delay.

    May it be Cheif of Supreme Court Judge; Iftikhar Muhammad Choudhary, who is setting bad examples.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 23:07 #
  35. Haris Khan:
    Please up date yourself:

    As said earlier: The incident took place in Hajipura police precincts during sehri hours, when four masked men were looting a family of six on Butter Road. When the family, including Zeeshan Qadir, his wife and four children tried to resist the robbers, they opened fire on the family.

    The robbers killed 19-year-old Bilal on the spot and Zeeshan died in the hospital two hours later.

    According to Rescue 1122 officials, several people heard the gun shots in the street. “We all gathered to ask where the sounds were coming from when we saw the men trying to escape,” said Shahnawaz, a neighbor, adding that the crowd managed to stop two of the men.

    “We found out they had killed our friends and we knew that the police would let them off so we killed them,”

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 23:20 #
  36. barackosama

    @hariskhan

    Is this the sort of justice you have been whining and longing for, at it's best - swear and swift?

    It has come to point that people have lost faith in the machinery of the GOP. The country is becoming wild, wild west.

    Posted 3 years ago on 20 Aug 2010 23:28 #
  37. Meray wattan peh uttaray hoay Andhairoun ko
    Jo tum kahou; mujhay Qeher sa lagta hey

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 0:01 #
  38. mylove-Pakistan

    My mind stopped thinking, I am really upset after watching the video.

    Even if they were robbers, rappers, looters +++ They did not deserve a death like this. I hope all the involved people are given exemplary punishment.

    Ya Allah tamam insano ko is tarah ke mouth se bacha - amin

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 3:26 #
  39. shirazi

    @HK

    Mobsters who were beating two brothers showed same mentality as you are showing on this thread. They were furious and outraged and were under the illusion, like you, that they can take the law in their hands. May I ask you under what authority you would have used bare hands and sticks to punish culprits.

    Mob attacks is a culture. Attacks by Hindus on Muslims in Gugrat and Bombay, by Muslims on Christians in Punjab and Sind after rumors that pages from Quran are burnt, very recently by factory labor in which they killed their owner as he was declared blasphemous in Lahore and now this. We need a systematic way to address this issue. It starts with punishing culprits and publicize that to make example for others. Most importantly strong media campaign to discourage this trend.

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 3:42 #
  40. @Aay
    "Please up date yourself:

    As said earlier: The incident took place in Hajipura police precincts during sehri hours, when four masked men were looting a family of six on Butter Road. When the family, including Zeeshan Qadir, his wife and four children tried to resist the robbers, they opened fire on the family.

    The robbers killed 19-year-old Bilal on the spot and Zeeshan died in the hospital two hours later.

    According to Rescue 1122 officials, several people heard the gun shots in the street. “We all gathered to ask where the sounds were coming from when we saw the men trying to escape,” said Shahnawaz, a neighbor, adding that the crowd managed to stop two of the men.

    “We found out they had killed our friends and we knew that the police would let them off so we killed them,”

    Why do you insist on spreading these LIES even afterit has become clear what you are spewing are TOTAL FABRICATIONS? (I am starting to suspect you think/know the killers were Qadyanis like you and you feel it your duty to protect them. Or have you any other 'explanation'?)

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 3:56 #
  41. @hariskhan
    "If I was there, I would have killed all those who were hitting those young 15, 17 year old boys, with my bare hands, with the sticks that they were using."

    And I would be right there with you!!!

    @shirazi
    Feel free to call me a monster too ;-)

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 3:59 #
  42. msyedh

    No human being can do this kind of thing, the real evil is police who has main role in this all event, if police will allow this kind criminal behavior then nobody going to stop this kind of crimes and brutality.
    Beside police, role of punjab government is criminal and shameful, even after so many days chief mininster and all punjab government neglect this crime until cheif justice took suo motu action.
    chief minister is very active in cheap point scoring in other matters everyday, how he can dare to ignore this kind of serious crime. Shame on you Mr Shabaz Sharif.

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 4:11 #
  43. shirazi

    @nota

    I said mobster not monster :)

    Precisely that's how mob develops .....

    We have the video footage why don't you guys go to Sailkot in Duska Village and look for folks in mob :)

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 4:22 #
  44. @msyedh
    "Beside police, role of punjab government is criminal and shameful"

    No question. And let's not forget this kind of brutality happens EVERY DAY in police stations and is encouraged by the Government of Punjab. And no one can deny the fact that the rate of "'Dacoits' killed in 'police encounters'" skyrockets whenever Shahbaz is running the Punjab Government. Any body who is anybody in the police department has earned his wings by carrying out such assassinations. Mubashar Lucqman had once shown a video of one suck fake encounter which I had found equally disgusting even though the young victims were only shown briefly with hands tied behind their back:
    http://www.ruclip.com/video/UFDIEh75T8w/fake-police-encounter-in-pakistan.html

    (What had surprised me was the number of police involved (huge) so you know this is common practice since it is carried out so openly in broad daylight with so many men involved)

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 4:25 #
  45. @shirazi
    And you missed "If I was there..." ;-)

    If I was there, this would NOT have happened or I would have been among the dead. No question about it. I have faced mobs more than once so I am speaking from experience (last time was only about a couple of months ago) ;-)

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 4:31 #
  46. shirazi

    @nota

    Would you mind sharing your real life experience? What happened? Was that as serious as this one?

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 4:37 #
  47. msyedh

    nota
    I am 100% agree with you.
    This crime was commited only because police encouraged and gave permission for this brutality.
    This police is more loyal to shrif family than rule of law. most of the present police bureacracy was selected when Nawaz Sharif was chief minister in late eighties. These officers were selected on political base, most of them belong to political families. They always loyal to Shrif family. Because of political background and direct loyality with shrif brothers, they don't care any other thing.

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 4:42 #
  48. @shirazi
    I really don't think so -- but how far it would have gone, I don't know. All I know is I was driving and saw this fight going on -- one guy was getting sh1t beaten out of him (of course there was a crowd around them enjoying the show -- not lifting a finger). I stopped my car, go out grabbed one of the guys doing the beating, threw him back, came between the the other and screamed "What the **** are you guys doing?" They tried to grab the guy again but I pushed him behind me. This finally let the tamashbeens to act to and they helped grab the rest of the guys (I think this too is "crowd mentality -- every one waits for someone else to act before they join in. It always happens -- one person has to act and the rest will get the 'courage'). Found out the guy taking the beating was a rickshaw guy who had dared to ask Rs200 as fare and the owner of the house who had called him did not like that. So he and his too servants started beating the ricksaw-wala. I dressed the owner down saying "You seem to be an educated man -- is this the way you should be behaving?" I got the victim into his rickshaw and made sure he got away (BTW: The homeowner felt embarassed enough and did give the fellow his 200)

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 4:52 #
  49. @msyedh
    Let's also remember that the clip I posted from the Lucman show -- no action was taken by the Punjab Government or SC. No one was punished (and I am sure some police guys got promotions out of it). And like I said -- it happens every day and every one knows it; That is why look in the papers and they always have "enounter" in quotes -- meaning it was probably fake.

    And talking about out "society", I attended the Old Ravians Association Annual Dinner and one of the main guests was a police officer (I believe he was from Gujrat). I asked around why was this guy among the main guests (others were President of Azaz Kashmir, Senator Wasim Sajjad, Principal of Kinnard College (I think). Well i found out his claim to fame was having killed a lot of people in police encounters. I did find this pic from the same event from another year:

    He is the one on the left (PM Gilani's right) You can see he is the main guests here too. Can anyone identify him?
    Here is a pic

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 5:06 #
  50. Hussain Farooqui

    We are rapidly transforming into a wild and lawless society.

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 6:07 #
  51. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @barackosama: Do you 'understand' what it means to be 'Muslim' ?

    Do you understand our! standards of justice ?

    Do you understand what is means to be 'alive' ?

    I believe you don't have that knowledge. I believe you also do not have that understanding.

    That is why you'r asking this .. question.

    Part of 'being' a 'Muslim' is to do whatever is in our power to stop ALL wrongdoing, ALL injustice, as soon as and when we find it happening before us.

    As I said earlier, if people of Pakistan, plus state machinery were doing their part, I would not need to be this upset about this issue.

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 7:33 #
  52. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @shirazi: O bhaee, you are a 'tamash-been' (in urdu). 'tamash-been' (in urdu) are the 'living-dead' in our society, our ranks, our community. You are already dead. You are yet another example of the 'living-dead' inside our nation. That is who you are.

    ALL you care for is to see two 'kukarh' (in urdu) or janwar (in urdu) fight each other, and you want to 'enjoy' watching them take each other out.

    You don't stop injustice. You watch. You allow injustice all the chance, all the time to flourish, to take its course. You allow criminals, aggressors to die of old age. You allow the weak to be persecuted by the powerful.

    In-fact you are a 'bay-his' (in urdu) person. In other words, you are a 'living-dead corps' of a human being.

    You don't have any 'qualities' of a 'Muslim'. You don't 'understand' or don't want to 'understand' what it means to be 'Muslim'.

    You don't 'understand' or don't want to 'understand' the meaning of this 'life'. In-fact you don't even understand or don't want to 'understand' what it means to be 'alive'.

    A human being who is 'living' does not tolerate or 'watch' or 'enjoy' injustice. He does not allow injustice to go on endlessly, forever. He does not allow injustice or the unjust .. to flourish. He does not allow criminals, aggressors to die of old age. He is 'living'. He holds dear 'sanctity' of 'life' of himself as well as of others. He 'responds', with whatever power he has with him.

    You have none of this. You are already 'dead'. You are another 'dead corps', walking here and there, talking nonsense, not improving himself, not making any effort to confirm, that you are indeed alive!.

    I feel you are not even interested to 'being' 'alive'.

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 7:46 #
  53. hariskhan

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    When the common man accepts injustice, watches injustice take place, allows injustice to go on for long time, unchecked, without immediate reprisals, without immediate retribution, the common man 'allows' himself to be 'turned' into the 'living-dead'.

    The common man looses his humanity. His humanity is replaced with insanity.

    Our people have 'accepted' injustice, have 'openly' 'allowed' injustice to go on for such a long time, that they have allowed themselves to be turned into the 'living-dead'.

    It is our people. They allow injustice, they allow for injustice to continue indefinitely. Our people hold injustice dearer to their hearts. I don't see people wanting justice. I see them wanting more! injustice.

    ALLAH has created a strange people in this era. A people who 'love' injustice.

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 8:05 #
  54. Dear All,

    At last the truth of this tragic incident has come out. We must all stand corrected about the details of the incident. Here is video report: (Hasb e Hall)

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 9:23 #
  55. @Aay
    Glad you finally woke up. Are you always this dense? Do you ever read before you post?? The truth was out even before you started this thread, and yet you insisted on repeating your lies!

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 9:30 #
  56. Dear All,

    The title of this post Report may please be read as:

    “Two ‘Suspected’ Robbers Killed and Hanged by Mob in Sialkot”

    Anyhow; the original report as found in ‘The Express Tribune’ and the information available at the time was posted with their reference and without any editing.

    Regards

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 9:40 #
  57. Nota;

    Sorry: I missed that report.

    I live in a different 'time zone' and I could see that Hasbe hal report only late last night.

    Regards

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 9:48 #
  58. Salam

    police watching all this... people watching all this.. so sad to see this.. unbelievable.. then again police in bahawalpur lathi charges female students of medical college, abusing them publicly how terrible to read these kind of things happening in our country...

    i still can't understand how police watched this 2 hour of murder exercise, how people stood there watching that... unbelievable..

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 12:15 #
  59. Thread title amended.

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 15:48 #
  60. zingaro

    I am speechless. Don't know how to express my grief on such a brutal act less then even animals standards. The policemen just kept on watching and two fasting muslims were killed after beating them heavily with sticks on their aheads. Just imagine what they would have been feeling in the fasting condition? I believe that all those who did it, who watched at spot, all policemen are equal culprits and all should be trialed and hanged.

    Yet we worry that why our nation is punished from Allah ????

    Posted 3 years ago on 21 Aug 2010 15:48 #

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