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  1. ..he huffed, and he puffed. When he found that he could not, with all his huffing and puffing, blew the house down.

    The current statements emanating from Washington remind us of a little story that we learned in the 3rd grade—”Well, he huffed, and he puffed, and he huffed and he puffed, and he puffed and huffed; but he could not get the house down. When he found that he could not, with all his huffing and puffing, blow the house down…

    “Pakistan was once called the most allied ally of the United States. We are now the most non-allied.“Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto (As quoted in The New York Times(6 July 1973).

    The current threats are all about the US defeat in Afghanistan and a face saving exit out of Kabul–and very little to do with Pakistan. The same sort of threats were doled out to Cambodia and Laos when the American General faced imminent eviction from Saigon.

    The first time the US threatened Pakistan was in the Sixties when Ayub Khan shut down the US Badabare Air Force base near Peashawar (http://rupeenews.com/?p=578). Johns also threatened Ayub Khan and asked him to throw Bhutto out of his cabinet. More threats came from Nixon, Carter and then Bush’s famous “We will bomb you to the stone age”. President Musharraf “agreed” to the seven demands but was always criticized for not living up to the promises. Since then there have been accusations and counter-accusations between Islamabad and Washington.

    Mountbatten, Nehru, Mohandas Gandhi, Indira, Kruschev, Johnson, Carter, Kissinger (Nixon), Gorbachev, Clinton, Armitage, Vajpayee, Singh, Petraeus, Obama have all threatened Pakistan: The Pakistanis are used to it…so what else is new?

    Khrushchev had red-lined Peshawar and threatened to obliterate Peshawar and Pakistan. The old story goes that on 17th December 1971 during the bleakest period of Islamabad’s history, the Kremlin sent a viscous telegram informing the Pakistanis that those who mess with the Soviets face a horrid end. The story also gos that on 17th December 1991, the day the USSR collapsed, the Pakistanis sent a mirror image of the old telegram back to Moscow, informing them that those who mess with Pakistan face an ignominious end–the Soviet Empire disintegrated after the USSR was defeated in Afghanistan.

    A month ago a US drone strike killed 40 innocent tribal leaders who were discussing a domestic issues. That attack came one day after “Raymond Davis” was released. The dip in relations is palpable. Some think that “U.S.- Pakistan ties are entering an even more dangerous phase”. The rhetoric on both sides has increased and much of the “smoke and mirrors and some of it could be bluff and bluster” has been in public.

    Foreign Policy magazine makes the explosive revelation that “Pakistani leaders want the United States to ‘bleed a little like the Soviets’ in Afghanistan”. According to “FP”, if the US continues the indiscriminate drone strikes unofficial Pakistanis are planning to disrupt NATO supply lines to Afghanistan.

    As America prepares to withdraw from the country, the Pakistanis know that Washington will abandon the region once again. It therefore prepares for the future, a tighter relationship with China, closer ties with the Central Asian states, and deeper economic links with Turkey and Iran.
    “The capacity of Pakistan to sustain some fifteen major disarticulations in polity, power, and structure and still preserve a national identity is a phenomenon one is tempted to explain by recourse to the supernatural Pakistan which has been pummelled by external events (three wars with India, (Bharati supported) secession of Bangladesh, 3.5 million Afghan refugees) and disrupted by (foreign instigated) fissures…to a degree which no other state established since 1945 has suffered. In this respect it stands as an exemplar of a nation whose adversities “common sense” might suggest make its viability impossible. Yet its continued existence defies the reality induced by such speculation.

    The enormity and persistence of these difficulties and the resilience of the nation in absorbing and somehow surviving them must be regarded with awe if not admiration.” Ralph Brainbanti. Add to this 30 years of US imposed war in Afghanistan, one of the biggest earthquakes in South Asia history, the 2009 floods, one of the worst natural calamity in human history, and bordered by a hegemony seeking country called India. All this makes Pakistani resilience the strongest on the planet–which Newsweek magazine called “The bravest Nation on Earth”.

    The Wall Street Journal editorial wants Washington to give Pakistan another “Ultimatum” similar to the one Richard Armitage doled out in the aftermath of Sept. 11 attacks. The newspaper known for its right wing hawkish views as enunciated by the Rupert Murdock network has rankled feather in Islamabad. Its editorial titled “The Pakistan Ultimatum” is seen as the epitome of the “Yankee hubris” as represented in “The Ugly American”.

    A dose of humility is in order—“I remember the atmosphere. It was: Well, here we are on top of the world, and we have arrived at this peak to stay there forever. There is, of course, a thing called history, but history is something unpleasant that happens to other people. We are comfortably outside all of that I am sure.” Arnold Toynbee, recounting his feelings at the age of eight when he was watching a parade celebrating the 60th anniversary of Queen Victoria’s ascension to the British throne.

    In typical imperialist fashion the WSJ “Pakistan Ultimatum” goes something like this “Pakistan can choose to cooperate in that fight and reap the benefits of an American alliance. Or it can oppose the U.S. and reap the consequences, including the loss of military aid, special-ops and drone incursions into their frontier areas, and in particular a more robust U.S. military alliance with India.” It continues like this ”In the wake of 9/11, the Bush Administration famously sent Secretary of State Colin Powell to Islamabad to explain that the U.S. was going to act forcefully to protect itself, and that Pakistan had to choose whose side it was on. It’s time to present Pakistan with the same choice again. With that kind of mood in Washington, it’s hard to see the allies burying the feud anytime soon.”

    President Obama’s rhetoric in Delhi had no substance except to rile the Pakistanis. The Delhi card didn’t quite work. The Chinese Premier visited Islamabad and pledged $20 billion in investment in Pakistan during the next five years. How about them apples? The Pakistani retort is what it has always been we need “Friends Not Masters”.

    Britain as a colonial power practiced “Divide and rule” pitting religious and ethnic differences in the Middle East to rule continents. Bhutto famously theorized that the post-colonial powers were working on a “unite and rule” strategy forcing Pakistan to work with India against China.

    “The idea of becoming subservient to India is abhorrent and that of cooperation with India, with the object of promoting tension with China, equally repugnant.” Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.

    Speaking to the West in Christian terms. Grandfather Bhutto does this eloquently.

    “For Christians, the teaching and directives of Christ are more Sacred than those of a Messenger of God. According to the Christians, those teaching and directives are of God Himself. Most of the problems of the Third World would be solved if the Christian West implemented in letter and spirit only one directive of Jesus Christ.
    The directive to “Render unto Caesar that which belongs to Caesar and to God that which belongs to God”.

    The Third World only want what belongs to it and nothing more. For over two hundred years, the Christian civilization of the West has been mercilessly violating this directive of Jesus Christ. The West has been taking everything belonging to Ceasar and everything belonging to God. The West is not dividing the share equitably. It is not rendering to us what belongs to us. This division relates to the economic, social, racial and political rights of the Third World.” Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto A letter from the Death Cell (2007) p. 72

    Washington is free to play the Delhi card whenever it desires–however it should be able to face the Tehran, Moscow an Beijing card which Pakistan holds near to its chest. Perhaps Bernard Lewis was right–maybe the Muslim alliance with the Confucian power is the future of the world. Rupert Murdock and the Neocons are more than most welcome to test it.

    After all the huffing and puffing, the big bad wolf continue to threaten—and this is how the story ends.. “Then the wolf was very angry indeed, and declared he would eat up the little one, and that he would get down the chimney after him. When the little one saw what he was about, he hung on the pot full of water, and made up a blazing fire, and, just as the wolf was coming down, took off the cover, and in fell the wolf; so the little pig put on the cover again in an instant, boiled him up, and ate him for supper, and lived happy ever afterwards.”

    Most Pakistanis don’t want closer relations with Washington–they want to build closer relations with Beijing, and work on creating the Muslim Union (similar to the European Union) in Central Asia. Links with Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan, Iran and Turkey are key to the future of Pakistan.

    Islamabad is moving ever closer to China, both militarily and economically– and that’s a fact Jack.

    http://www.bangladeshpatriot.com/?p=592

    Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 7:03 #
  2. Well, well, what a find! An excellent article which says things with absolute clarity, no beating about the bush, and announces what the future holds for us. I know you have profound reservations about ZAB, but his words quoted above carry the ring of truth and vision.

    Also, Mirza Sahib, am extremely busy at the moment so will not be apprearing too frequently on the blog. Nothing to worry about. Also, any news about Crazy Horse? Please to let me know.

    Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 7:31 #
  3. Abdul Rahman
    Member

    Letter from Ali in London

    Dear Americans,

    Please, please, please do us Pakistanis a big favour and petition your govt. to stop ALL aid to Pakistan. It NEVER reaches the intended recipient if it is a civillian project, but mostly it is military aid. The average Pakistani has not felt the benefits of your hard earned tax dollars, which you think is going to help poor people when in actual fact it is not.

    The national budget is presented and the details for money for the ISI and Army are never given, so we don't know what they are spending the money on since your military aid is on top of this. In the meantime the businesses of top generals seems to be growing.

    People in Pakistna realise this, and now the ordinary people are beginning to speak up. We are sick of being shot and kiled by our own armed forces and of being bullied by them. You providing them aid only COMPOUNDS this situation, through your aid you help keep these land grabbing sell outs in power as they keep themselves afloat with it.

    SO what if Pakistan goes bankrupt, all chaos will not break out, the nukes won't go anywhere (if you could have got them you would've by now - they are too well protected). The housewives will carry on buying vegetables the doctors, lawyers, accountants, teachers, mechanics, bus drivers etc. will carry on with their work. The only thing that will happen is that the govt. will be required to raise money from WITHIN the country i.e. TAX. And who owes the most tax? you got it, these big fat generals and corrupt politicians. Its these people that should be paying their taxes and helping the national treasury and NOT your aid.

    Please let Pakistan default, it's the best thing that will happen to us, because finally, they will have to get their act together. You whities are so easily scared and paranoid with nuclear weapons and an 'imminent islamic takeover'. Rest assured its NOT about to happen, these stories are peddled more to frighten you into giving your money. Call their bluff!

    For both our sakes and then maybe we can have a normal non toxic relationship as two countries on the other ends of the world should have!

    Thanks!
    Ali

    Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 16:36 #
  4. Good, heartfelt and well thought out letter. I'll add: Please, please, US, let us jointly default. Then the world could have a short breathing space in which to put together its act again,

    Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 17:13 #
  5. insaftak
    Member

    I am reading Zulfiqar ali bhutto's Myth of Independence right now and I must say he was a truly a visionary leader when it came to foreign policy. I will leave his antics in local politics for a different thread.

    the example of vitenam fits perfectly with the recent uprising in Libya.

    Posted 11 months ago on 16 Jun 2011 22:19 #
  6. zoabkhan
    Member

    Those interested in U.S. opinions on Pakistan listen to this.
    http://vaca.bayradio.com/kgo_archives/32100.mp3

    It is an hour long show on KGO radio in Frisco. Interesting listen with callers calling in and of course Indians wasting no time calling in either.

    I was so annoyed that i send the host an email this morning:

    Hello Gene,
    I don't listen to your show often. A friend called me to tell me you were
    talking about Pakistan so i downloaded the full hour from kgo website.

    Listening to your opinions, i realize why you don't do any foreign policy
    shows.

    Arrogance and the imperialist way of thinking like yours is the reason problems
    like this cannot be solved. You propose that if Pakistan stops U.S. supply route you will bomb the route
    open.

    I would like to ask you if Pakistan is the 52nd state of the U.S.? Does U.S.
    law apply in Pakistan? Is the U.S. congress supreme
    in Pakistan? On what basis can you demand Pakistan keeps its routes open so
    Nato troops can receive their toilet paper on time?

    In your program you present an argument that indirectly implies Pakistan is a
    slave to the American interests. When that argument doesn't work. You reason
    that U.S. has a deal with Pakistan, hence Pakistan should keep supply routes
    open. Let me remind you that any deal that U.S. has ever had
    with Pakistan are to serve U.S. interests. Look where it got Pakistan? It got
    them Musharaff's extended stay, it got corrupt Gilani as the PM(because U.S.
    thought he was corrupt enough, check the WikiLeaks) it got Pakistan a crony in
    Zardari(5% approval rating), it got suicide bombings, sanctions.... Believe me
    i can go on and on but i think you get the point.

    I propose to you what Pakistan should do and is the common belief among
    Pakistani's living in Pakistan or abroad.
    If U.S. continues drone attacks (which you might be surprised are happening or
    showed your ignorance towards them during your show) in Pakistan than Pakistan
    should close the Khyber Pass/Torkham border and the Karachi port permanently.
    It is time Pakistan should get the hell out of this endless war of the United
    States, fight militancy on its own and not allow its soil to be used against any
    country. If Obama is willing to kill hundreds of innocent people to get one
    militant in the tribal areas then that percentage Obama and Biden should live
    with. Go to Russia and former Russian states for its supply routes that you
    will surely be able to dictate to.

    As for the significant aid that U.S. has given. A figure of $20Billion over 10
    years is fair.

    Pakistan's expense stand at 3 times the $20billion for this war. Throw in
    40,000+ innocent civilian deaths.

    $1.5billion/year in aid accounts to less than 1% of Pak's GDP, making the aid
    truly chump change. I am sure your arrogance is thinking why is Pakistan
    forcing aid on itself? My answer to you, its the fault of the Pakistani
    people. The gifts of U.S.deals; Zardari, Gilani and the elite that are
    mouthpieces for U.S. are the scumbags don't wear less than Armani suits and
    carry nothing less than Hermes bags in a country that has seen exponential
    growth in poverty over the past 7 years. Zardaris looted wealth are in the
    U.S.(Do you see the collusion here). Do you think they have the moral authority
    to say no to this aid?

    U.S. is providing to Pakistan as an investment in keeping the corrupt elite in
    power so it can fight Obama and Bush's war.

    On a side note, check the figures Turkey was offered for its supply routes. I
    bet you Pakistan doesn't even account for 1/20 of that amount.

    Posted 11 months ago on 17 Jun 2011 1:04 #
  7. @Zoab Khan
    Bravo! Your email message to KGO was all logic and facts. A true patriotic Pakistani indeed.

    Posted 11 months ago on 20 Jun 2011 4:37 #
  8. Pak US friendship has came to a very fragile end.

    Posted 11 months ago on 20 Jun 2011 8:14 #
  9. Beenai, do you really think that "friendship" has come to an end? The day Zardari and Co are out of this country, then perhaps, but already now? Or was the word "fragile" supposed to be a spot of subtle sarcasm on your part?

    My congratulations to Zoab Khan, too, for the very fine piece he fired off to that US radio show.

    Posted 11 months ago on 20 Jun 2011 8:33 #
  10. Mirza Ghalib,
    yes,i was trying to be sarcastic in my comments.
    this so called friendship should come to an end before it ends our existence.

    Posted 11 months ago on 20 Jun 2011 8:43 #
  11. Well put, Beenai, well put.

    Posted 11 months ago on 20 Jun 2011 12:15 #

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