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Video: Islam Main Jamhuriyat Ki Haqeeqat

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  1. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    Video: Islam Main Jamhuriyat Ki Haqeeqat
    Speaker: Dr. Israr Ahmad

    12-September-2010
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    Part #1:

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    Source: Youtube Channel: ziarecord

    Posted 1 year ago on 13 Sep 2010 22:36 #

  2. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    One more concept that is mentioned in this, is;

    why will Muslims only have 'Muslim' as a 'leader' / 'Khaleeafa' ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 13 Sep 2010 22:58 #

  3. ammarisb
    Member

    History in Pakistan has always been distorted, Jinnah did not envision a Pakistan where religious bigots called the shots and sectarian outfits flourished. The religious indoctrination is the root cause of Taliban rise. Pakistan must revert back to its roots of secularism, peaceful coexistence and democratic governance. People should be the one to form the social contract not the clergy.

    Posted 1 year ago on 14 Sep 2010 11:36 #

  4. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @ammarisb: How do you substantiate all of your claims ?

    Also, even if you subscribe to man-made 'democracy', majority of people of Pakistan want Islami Nizam. Only a tiny minority wants 'secularism'.

    Why do you want to 'impose' 'secularism' on the 'vast majority' of people in Pakistan, who have rejected it over and over again ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 14 Sep 2010 13:33 #

  5. achtung
    Member

    i agree with ammarisb. a secular society never harm muslims or can never damage islam. majority of our people want it to happen. on other hand a nizam based on religion will divide people not unite people. only those ask for islami nizam who can not tell what is islami nizam. who are rejected by people again and again. who want power through short cut of islami nizam.

    Posted 1 year ago on 14 Sep 2010 15:19 #

  6. semirza
    Moderator

    History bears witness that any thing not from the teachings of Islam has been damaging and harmful to Muslims. Since the dawn of Islam non Muslims have been sworn enemies to Muslims till today. There has been exceptions but few.

    If Secularism has no origins from Islamic Jurisprudence (Quran wa Sunnah and Ahadees-e-Mubaraqa) and therefore not supported/acknowledged by Ullama-e-Deen then Muslims are right to refute it on all grounds.

    Posted 1 year ago on 14 Sep 2010 16:53 #

  7. ammarisb
    Member

    Democracy serves as credible voice of the masses and it is barrier against the Taliban Raj, the voices of socially marginalized and minorities are incorporated by the essence of democratic governance.

    Posted 1 year ago on 15 Sep 2010 11:38 #

  8. Shaheen-e-Iqbal
    Member

    Democracy is a flawed system that by default is a system based on majority vote.
    Due to this inherent fault in Democracy we are suffering at the hands of corrupt parliamentarians provincial and federal both, a corrupt PM and a corrupt president.

    Posted 1 year ago on 15 Sep 2010 12:01 #

  9. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @ammarisb: Answer my questions, please.

    Posted 1 year ago on 15 Sep 2010 16:26 #

  10. ammarisb
    Member

    Religion and politics should be kept separate as when the two come together then politics is Islamized and Islam is politicized.

    @Haris Khan the answers to your questions lies in the speeches of Jinnah!

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Sep 2010 18:00 #

  11. hariskhan
    member

    Assalam-o-Alaikum-Warahmat-ULLAH ALL,

    @ammarisb: (1) There is no 'politicization of Islam'. That is BS!.

    As I have said before, the word 'religion' is alien to 'Islam'. ALLAH ALMIGHTY says, in the Quran about Islam, that Islam is a 'DEEN'. ALLAH ALMIGHTY also says that ALLAH has 'completed' this 'DEEN', and has 'liked' it for us/Muslims.

    Islam is a complete! way of life. Which means, Islam also gives us/Muslims guidelines, teachings, ways, principles, standards, rules, laws directions on how we Muslims are to conduct ourselves in 'politics'.

    (2) Jinnah's speeches point towards 'Islami Nizam'. What are you on about ?

    Your claim for Pakistan to move towards 'secularism' is 'invalid'.

    Also, secularism is in 'direct' 'conflict' with Islam. Anything that is in 'conflict' with Islam is 'rejected' by 'Muslims'.

    (3) 'Democracy' is the 'infrastructure' for 'remote' 'control' / 'rule' over a 'nation', over a 'nation state'

    We Muslims are going to defy 'democracy'. We will INSHALLAH struggle for Islami Nizam.

    Posted 1 year ago on 16 Sep 2010 21:25 #

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