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  1. http://www.facebook.com/pmlvspti

    As a youngster of Islamic Republic of Pakistan I am following Pakistani politics since 1990.

    In my opinion, 1990s were good year s and Pakistan was going well. Four elections were held during 1990s. Two parties were dominant during that time and each party won the elections for two times. Things were going well. Apart from all the challenges we were facing at that time, both parties performed wel...l and they were capable to run the country. PML-N performed quite well in their tenure after 1997 (I am not going into details but analysis of their government after being elected in 1997 proves so).

    Things started to go wrong after 1997 elections. I am talking about unnecessary involvement of establishment in politics. Establishment was not in favor of the rising of political parties. So they got rid of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto using Nawaz Sharif and then finally they got rid of Nawaz Sharif.

    At that time new political parties were introduced. Imran Khan's PTI supported the army rule and when Imran Khan disappointed by the army generals, he (Imran Khan) said sorry to the whole Nation for supporting army to rule the country.

    After worst years of army rule, in year 2007 a judiciary movement finally rolled away the army rule and finally, elections were held.

    For these elections to be held, we lost a popular political personality Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto.

    Things were not smooth and easy after the elections till the restoration of judiciary in 2008. Situation did not even got better after restoration of judiciary since hidden powers (establishment) rolled away the clean and outstanding movement of judiciary. The army of Pakistan too did not back up judiciary to implement their orders including NRO etc.

    In such worst scenarios, the honest politicians tried to perform well and I do appreciate their efforts. But on the other hand, due to crises of leadership and after Mohtarma Benazir's death, some inexperienced leadership took the control which being unable to run the country resulted in extreme corruption. In present days, our country has an excellent system. What we need is to run such system in an excellent way for which we need sincere, honest and responsible politicians. We also have an outstanding judiciary as well as experienced and honest politicians. What are we required to do is to perform our duties faithfully and things will be fine accordingly, InshAllah!

    Establishment does not want experienced and responsible politicians to run the country, which is why; they have started supporting Imran Khan.

    Imran Khan is the chessman of establishment. I could note that how many times he had used words about General Musharraf's trial, involvement of army in politics, corruption of army and so on.

    As far as corruption is concerned, Supreme Court is doing great and we do not need any special units for corruption. We just need to support present judiciary and our experienced politicians.

    Analyze the situation, understand your responsibility. Come forward and support those who have performed well in their time!

    http://www.facebook.com/pmlvspti

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 16:52 #
  2. qaisernadeem
    Member

    Yes I support your support for Nawaz Sharif, I hope that one day in future you become a leader of Nawaz League because of all your intellect and struggle.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 16:56 #
  3. expakistani
    Member

    ilovepk
    Member Since
    December 24, 2011 (1 day)

    Some time i wonder how much NS is paying for posting on pkpolitics??

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:09 #
  4. @expakistani

    No one paying nothing.

    Pls accept and bear supporters of parties other than PML-Q2 (PTI)!!

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:15 #
  5. coolbema
    Member

    Chahay Tsunami chahay Zalzla ay i support Gee Jaan Se NAWAZ SHAREEF. Baaqi parties se "lootay ani jaani cheez hai" Musharaf ke saath bhi bohot lootay to jo ab PTI ki besakhi hai.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:23 #
  6. hypocrite
    Member

    Establishment does not want experienced and responsible politicians to run the country, which is why; they have started supporting Imran Khan.

    ________

    ilovepk sahib

    Do you mind sharing your opinion and criteria for "experienced" and "responsible".

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:24 #
  7. expakistani
    Member

    Responsible enough to take family and Bawarchi with him after mafi nama

    experienced: Got kicked out twice after election.

    Come forward and support those who have performed well in their time!

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:31 #
  8. @hypocrite

    I would like to name senior politicians of PML-N like Khawaja Asif, Ch. Nisar, Shahbaz Sharif, Ishaq Darr etc..

    Ministries were working well in late 90s. Kashmir issue was resolving, Inflation was well under control, financial crisis was controlled after sanctions, Construction of infrastructure, Outstanding relationship built with Saudi Arabia in which they help us to support the economy by providing Oil for free, We never heard suicide attacks, No Baloch brothers were with Anti-Pak sentiments, PML-N was controlling corruption but that investigated corruption then used by establishment for a martial law..... etc etc etc..

    I did not hear any big corruption scandals!!... you name it if I am wrong..

    Pls accept for a fact that technically PML-N after 1997 elections were performing outstanding..!

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:37 #
  9. mariabashir
    Member

    @ilovepk
    میرے بھائی کس نے کہا تھا میاں صاحب سے کہ زرداری کے چکر میں ٹرک کی بتی کے پیچھے لگ گئے .

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:38 #
  10. expakistani
    Member

    Pakistan Bachao Karaza utaro.... kuch us ka jawab do.

    Raat ke andheron bhaag janey walon, Kia next time tum per trust kia ja sakta hey?

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:40 #
  11. hypocrite
    Member

    ilovepk sahib

    Thanks. Javed Hashmi, Qasuri, Shah Mehmood Querishi, Hoti etc are experienced and some of them have been part of the same successful government of PML(N). Do you think they can continue on the same path of success.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:40 #
  12. @expakistani "Pakistan Bachao Karaza utaro.... kuch us ka jawab do." --> That amount was used in controlling the financial crisis.. I cannot explain each and every point here.. But when you take an issue then pls investigate the issue thoroughly!!

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:42 #
  13. cutenice62
    Member

    @ilovepk

    ji sir bilkul sahee kaha, kanooo kaan qabzay kiyay logo ki zameno par or ap ko sunaya bhi nahi, how sad :(,

    qaraz utaro mulak sanwarooo, peeli taxi, adalat pay hamla koi scandel nahi tha i agree with u :)

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:45 #
  14. @hypocrite "Thanks. Javed Hashmi, Qasuri, Shah Mehmood Querishi, Hoti etc are experienced and some of them have been part of the same successful government of PML(N). Do you think they can continue on the same path of success." --> You have seen the performance of these names after 2002 elections, pls ask yourself about there performance.. As far JH is concerned, JH is a symbol.. I really respect him but pls do not put him in this list!!

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:45 #
  15. expakistani
    Member

    Acha yeah batao... ke mafi nama asli tha ya jali?

    Sachi sachi batana bhai, aap pkpolitics per entertainment ke nai laher le ker aye ho

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:48 #
  16. @cutenice62 "ji sir bilkul sahee kaha, kanooo kaan qabzay kiyay logo ki zameno par or ap ko sunaya bhi nahi, how sad :(,

    qaraz utaro mulak sanwarooo, peeli taxi, adalat pay hamla koi scandel nahi tha i agree with u :) " --> hmm.. mujhe tou pata hei nahin tha.. you should go to SC and prove PML-N corrupt party otherwise such words will be considered as propaganda!!!

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:48 #
  17. @expakistani "Acha yeah batao... ke mafi nama asli tha ya jali?" --> No doubt mafi nama tou asli tha!! lekin yaar ye bhi tou dekho ke NS and SS Pakistan wapis aker siyasat kerrahe hai.. jo unke sath kia gaya wo bhi accept kero.. ajj app dekho NS is leading his party in Pakistan whereas MQM chief is leading his party from abroad and MQM is now ally of PML-Q2 (PTI)!!!

    Pls be honest while accepting the facts!!!

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:51 #
  18. hypocrite
    Member

    considered as propaganda
    ________

    Isnt everything in our "principled" politics nothing but mere propaganda. That is why so many jalsas are held by everyone. Everyone gets emotional in the jalsa and then forgets.

    If governments really perform then why do they need to have jalsas of their own. Shouldnt their performance itself speak of their success.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:55 #
  19. Kazim Raza
    Member

    Ilovepk@

    you wrote well about the pmln.... its true but i know the people who are under imran's magic will less believe it. NS is the only person who can run the country. May Allah succeed him

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:57 #
  20. expakistani
    Member

    @Kazim Raza sahib

    NS is the only person who can run "Away" from the country in hard time.

    Do you need prove for this???

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:58 #
  21. xero
    Member

    arre arre bhaio,larrte kyoon ho ...waqi nawaz shareef aur shehbaz shareef hi iss mulk ko chala sktye hain...in 4 salu mein aap ne dekh to liya ho ga na k kis trh punjab main doodh aur shehd ki nehrain beh rahi hain :P

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 17:59 #
  22. hypocrite
    Member

    NS is the only person who can run the country
    ________

    On a lighter note I hope NS doesnt run away with the country.

    Unless the institutions are strengthened and we keep on following one man show, nothing will improve in long term. This personality cult is not the solution. In my opinion solution is strong institutions.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:01 #
  23. stingingnettle
    Member

    ilovepk

    "As a youngster of Islamic Republic of Pakistan I am following Pakistani politics since 1990."

    A proper laugh of the day.

    So, you have been following Pakistani politics for 21 years and today you make an appearance on pkpolitics. That isn't a problem.

    To be generous to you, I would assume you started following Pakistani politics at the age of 15 unless you are Hamza Sharif.

    So that makes you 36 at least today.

    Here is the punchline, you have called yourself a 'youngster'!

    You epitomise everything that is wrong with PML (A to Z) and you can't even lie properly.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:07 #
  24. Pakistani Expat
    Member

    The problem with unbalanced, short-tempered & immature minds is that they have no respect for other's view and start blaming as "paid", "traitor" etc. They need to learn to accept or at least listen to other's point of view with an open mind.

    No doubt, Nawaz Sharif has emerged as the single great leader capable enough to steer the country out of crisis. He has taken a PRINCIPLED STANCE of not to accept any turncoat (lota) left behind by dictator Musharraf. The political orphans of General Musharraf had no place in politics of Pakistan and neither could they afford to stay out of government. A political party is like a building and its members and leaders are its bricks. If the bricks are shady and unreliable, the buidling is bound to collapse. The same way establishment's created PML-Q has collapsed!

    Nawaz Sharif is the only leader (and PML-N the only party)who has vehemently demanded that DEFENCE BUDGET should be debated in the parliament since it is also financed by taxpayer's money. The two largest expenditures of Pakistan are defence and debt servicing. Once they are controlled, the government will have resources to spend on education, health, infrastructure and employment creation.

    It was Nawaz Sharif who led the rally from FRONT for restoration of judiciary on March 15, 2009 despite shelling and tear-gas by the government. People like Qazi Hussain Ahmed and Imran Khan had gone into hiding to protect their lives!

    It was the principled stand of Nawaz Sharif that he REFUSED TO BOW in front of the PCO judges. Though he had to forego his party's government in Punjab as a consequnce of Governor Rule by the PPP in February 2009. The PPP and its Governor late Salman Taseer tried their level best to do horse trading but failed.

    PML-N has been taking a clean stance whenever there has been a case of fraud or bogus degree against any of its members. MPA Shumaila Rana was asked to resign due to a credit card fraud, though she has subsequently been exonerated by an independent court of law. MNA Faiz Tamman had to resign once it was discovered that he had a bogus degree (unlike Jamshed Dasti of PPP). Same Faiz Tamman is now part of PTI.

    Nawaz Sharif and his party are not becoming part of the establishment's puppet to get rid of the incumbent regime. Some elements have been discrediting him as a friendly opposition but his stance is now being toed by all parties which say that any change, as and when takes place, should be through constitutional means and not through military boots.

    The country needs a leader who has the courage to stand by his words and to face ever-conspiring establishment. Only Nawaz Sharif fits into that criteria.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:12 #
  25. hypocrite
    Member

    unbalanced, short-tempered & immature minds

    _________

    Your overall comment is great, balanced and has some reference.

    I wish if you would not have used the above words as these were not required. In my opinion you diluted the impact of your first paragraph by using the above words. But then I might have misunderstood your intent in using these words.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:16 #
  26. Kazim Raza
    Member

    ex & exo@

    tu ap log kia kehty hain IK govt mei aye ga tu dodh aur shehd ki nehrain bahen ge?

    bat sirf itni se hai k SS ne jo wasail thy un mei behtr deliver kia hay, koi corruption nahe ki bhai

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:20 #
  27. siddiqi73
    Member

    ilovepk.

    Thanks for the brilliant post. Don't pay no mind to hater, spitters and $hitters. The spell of Deen-e-Ilzami would not be affective for too long for this sheep herd.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:25 #
  28. sahibzada1
    Member

    Bravo ilovepk.
    We love Mian Sb.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:27 #
  29. Bawa
    Member

    او ہو،  کیا ہوگیا یار؟ 

    سب بچے کے پیچھے ہاتھ  دھو کر  ہی پر  گئے ہیں  

    صاف صاف کہہ دیں کہ ہم  کسی ایسی پارٹی کو سپورٹ نہیں کرتے جس میں کارکنوں کی بجائے بھائیوں، بھتیجوں، بھانجوں، بیٹیوں، بہنوییوں، دامادوں، دامادوں   کے  بھائیوں، دوستوں اور خوشامدیوں کا راج ہو     

    Welcome ilovepk

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:29 #
  30. gr8sardar
    Member

    سندھ میں MQM ڈر گیا کپتان
    پنجاب میں جلسہ ہو تو اثاثے اثاثے
    کھربوں کے کنٹینرز غائب کوئی سوال جواب نہیں
    قتل غارت کوئی سوال جواب نہیں

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:32 #
  31. Kazim Raza
    Member

    Siddiqi@

    where have you been today bro

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:33 #
  32. Kazim Raza
    Member

    siddiqi@

    PTI ne Javed Hashmi ko Imran Hashmi Bana dia ... lols

    I came to PTi for Pakistan- I am "Baghi" for the interest of people of Pakistan-Imran Hashmi

    http://www.insaf.pk/News/tabid/60/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/9204/Karachi-Jalsa-Live-Updates-.aspx

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:36 #
  33. anasyounus
    Member

    @Pakistani Expat..
    talk about unbalanced..

    following are some facts that you forgot while preaching others to be balanced

    1. Principle stand on Q-league Lotas..
    a quarter of PP assembly is lota owned by PML-N, number of senators also on the list and lets not forget the turncoats with whom he daily do the photosessions while them joining PML-N

    2. Taking stand on Fake Degree holders..condemned PPP for gigving ticket to Dasti
    PML-N gave ticket to a "Loti" of Q-league Naghma Mushtaq after she was disqualified being a fake degree holder..

    3. NS is not establishment Puppet..
    appreciate NS's public stand on Establishemnt.. but why you think he always preferd Ch.Nisar an establishment boot licker over JH an anti establishment symbol.. why SS and Nisar had secret meetings with Army chief and ISI chief?? Why he in the last 4 years havent filed a petition in supreme court to make a commision on KARGIL? Why ch. Nisar did a press conference yesterday to announce that "NATION" will resisit firing Army chief and ISI?

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:40 #
  34. Fazooli
    Member

    Hahaha.... hahaha... hahaha @ the thread title & @ its timing!

    :D

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:42 #
  35. anasyounus
    Member

    Nisar announced repeatedly that PML-N doors are open for all Q-league member who wants to join.. and he even confirmed that the meeting was shujaat and pervez Ilahi was done about a year ago and all was set for them to join hands again..

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:44 #
  36. anasyounus
    Member

    Nisar announced repeatedly that PML-N doors are open for all Q-league member who wants to join.. and he even confirmed that the meeting was held with shujaat and pervez Ilahi about a year ago and all was set for them to join hands again..

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:45 #
  37. siddiqi73
    Member

    Can we please keep this thread PAK from the sheep herd and mureeds of Deen-e-****.....please!

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:45 #
  38. anasyounus
    Member

    Deen-e-****... Look who is talking.. have you not yet read Kim Barker's book..

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:46 #
  39. siddiqi73
    Member

    ^^^ I'm into John Grisham and Tom Clancy.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:48 #
  40. Bawa
    Member

    @ anasyounus

    Kia Kim Baker nay kisi gunah e kabeera ya najaiz bachay ka zikar kia hai?

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:50 #
  41. hypocrite
    Member

    Kia Kim Baker nay kisi gunah e kabeera ya najaiz bachay ka zikar kia hai?

    _______

    باوا بھائی
    سلام
    تو کیا اس کے بغیر کتاب نہیں پڑھیں گے آپ

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:52 #
  42. hypocrite
    Member

    I'm into John Grisham and Tom Clancy.

    _____

    Siddiqi sahib

    Good taste (only because I also read the fiction from these folks)

    Perhaps you shall recommend Mian sahib to change his taste also.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:54 #
  43. anasyounus
    Member

    Yea give credit to Kim Barker warna koshish to pooree kee thee NS ne apni taraf se..

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:55 #
  44. Bawa
    Member

    @ hypocrite

    Wa aleikum salaam bhai jee

    Kitab tu main nay ussi waqat parh lee thee. Issi leiay main nay yeh sawaal kia hai.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:55 #
  45. hypocrite
    Member

    Yea give credit to Kim Barker warna koshish to pooree kee thee NS ne apni taraf se

    _______

    Anasyounus

    Good comeback.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:56 #
  46. siddiqi73
    Member

    @Hypocrite,

    Thanks for concurring! I would perhaps pass on my recommendations to Mian Sahab :)

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:57 #
  47. Bawa
    Member

    @ anasyounus

    Iss ka matlab Nawaz Shareef nay woh nahin kia jo Imran Khan nay kia aur jis kee saza sangzani hai.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:58 #
  48. hypocrite
    Member

    gunah e kabeera

    _______

    باوا بھائی
    اور کیا کیا شامل ہے گناہ کبیرہ میں

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:58 #
  49. siddiqi73
    Member

    hehehehehe....wish we could give the same kind of credit to poor Sita White who not only mothered a child out of wedlock but eventually had to up-bring a daughter whose "father" refused to pay child support.

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 18:59 #
  50. Bawa
    Member

    @ anasyounus

    Kia ab hum gunah e kabeera kay murtakab aadmi ko apna leader bana lein?

    Posted 5 months ago on 25 Dec 2011 19:00 #

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