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We were left behind Bangladesh

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  1. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    spruce

    Very good motivational words by you! I appreciate your patriotism. However, our patriotism should enable us to fathom certain facts and figures which can be helpful in taking the country out of unbearable mess.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Nov 2010 5:27 #

  2. quaidkamazaar
    Member

    @ spruce

    the key word is education.

    Bangladesh holds a good future because they are taking education seriously and they have more literacy rate than Pakistan. India already has made progress due to making education compulsory.

    If masses are educated, it is a good sign for future of a country. That is where Bangladesh beats Pakistan. you can go ahead and try to prove me wrong :)

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Nov 2010 5:34 #

  3. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    qkm

    You are absolutely right in your views. Education is must for the whole nation.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Nov 2010 5:42 #

  4. spruce
    Member

    Contributions of Benazir Bhutto for welfare of pakistan in 1988-90

    Education
    • Fifty thousand new teachers were employed in Pakistan including Sindh.
    • Education made compulsory upto 8th class.
    • 80 thousands new literacy centres were set up throughout the country including

    Very first time a separate ministry for women affairs was established to solve their problems.
    • Women Bank was established.
    • Women were given loan facility to start their own businesses.
    • Computer centres for women were started in Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad.

    Water & Power
    • Electricity was supplied to 4 thousand Villages in twenty months in Pakistan including Sindh.
    • Electricity supplied to more than 12 lac houses including Sindh

    ZAB Helped to open seven or eight major institutions in Sindh (including
    • Khairpur University,
    • Chandka Medical College,
    • Nawabshah Engineering College,
    • Nawabshah Girls Medical College,

    1993-96
    Development
    • Built 21,000 primary schools in Pakistan including Sindh
    • Electricity to 18,000 villages.in Pakistan including Sindh
    • Airport at Sehwan Sharif.
    • Work on Ketti Bandar Port started.

    Women Development
    1. In 1993, Mohtarma Bhutto’s Government subscribed to the Vienna Declaration which recognized women’s rights as human rights

    Crisis Centre for Women in distress. – The Government set-up “Crisis Centres for women in Distress” in Islamabad and at Vehari. These were pilot projects which aimed at providing medical and legal aid to the women victims of violence.
    Other.
    • Establishment of Hostel for Working Women at Gujranwala, Lahore, Hyderabad, Sukkur, and Quetta. .
    • Rearing and Development of Silk Worm Realing and Weaving of Silk Thread for Rural Women in Sindh.
    • Centre of Excellence for Women Studies Islamabad, Karachi, Quetta and Peshawar.
    Current ppp have managed an NFC Award; and all provinces received their rights equally.
    Managed to reach out to Baluchistan;
    managed to pass the some meaningful legislation, such as the Organ Donors Act.

    what not govt has done we people just follow the propaganda and rhumors and forget all about democretic government done in under pressure of establishment.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Nov 2010 5:49 #

  5. quaidkamazaar
    Member

    well HF bhai, Im sorry for being so stereotypical,

    But India and Bangladesh beat us on not allowing feudals to ever rule their country as well.

    Pakistan is in better state than Bangladesh?

    I think we should be proud of country when we do something and make it in better state than the rest... I dont see a point in having fake pride in us, its just so counterproductive. We have no bragging rights whatsoever.

    we can brag about things when we have something to brag about lol... besides being nuclear i guess lets leave only that one out.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Nov 2010 5:50 #

  6. spruce
    Member

    we are good in education better then 1970's

    i am here representing you all that i am belonging from those area where i never seen electricity in my education time upto matric but i am thank full to benazir bhutto she provided us electricity , school,hospital near hala(makhdoom amin fahim area) in 1995 and our future generation is growing under lighting and my father wass son of farmer he gave him education and my father got 1st position from NED uniuversity of Engineering and 7 years he worked with DR. Qadeer khan in kahoota plant and now he is working in KSA and mee tooo so i invite you all that do'nt go to rhumores and better to goo personnaly and compare to 1970,s era and current time of development..

    go through university of sindh..mehran,liaqat medical university,petaro college ,isra university.khiar pur univerty,chandka medical college,lateef university.

    you will find thousand number of students icluding girls and boys of sindhee jageerdars and thier farmers daughters,sons studing together and sitting and eating together and there is no such gape as it was in 1970 time which Zulifiqar ali bhutto changed the fuedol mentality through education, only 2% u will find with ancient mentality but rest is changed.

    before less ratio of rural pakistan progressed but now this ratio has been increased alot because of media awareness as i mentioned that 4000 villages provided electricity and 12 lec homes got benifitted .

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Nov 2010 5:57 #

  7. quaidkamazaar
    Member

    @spruce,

    If so many schools were developed as you say, I dont know why Pakistan has still not made much progress in education sector? Right now, we should be king.

    another question, what was the quality of those schools? Was there anything done to maintain them as many schools today look like trash.

    another question, where those schools eventually taken up by jaageers in villages who started using schools as private property for their own functions.

    and at 50,000 new teachers in Pakistan.

    question arises, how many of these teachers have actually gone to school and taught something, i see documentary after documentary showing how so called teachers never show up to a in dirty schools found in villages, and students get day off. And entire school is run by one teacher... WOW

    Even in last 2 years or so, if PPP was serious about education, they would have made some serious reforms, the correct attitude to administer change is missing sir.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Nov 2010 5:59 #

  8. spruce
    Member

    quadkamazar
    I am proof in front of you broken roof one room and with out electricity under the shadow of tree passed my middle school ...and go through details.
    We are good in education better then 1970's

    I am here representing you all that i am belonging from those area where I never seen electricity in my education time up to metric but i am thank full to benazir Bhutto she provided us electricity , school, hospital near hala(makhdoom amin faheem area) in 1995 and our future generation is growing under lighting and my father was son of farmer he gave him education and my father got 1st position from NED university of Engineering and 7 years he worked with DR. Qadeer khan in kahutta plant and now he is working in KSA and me too so I invite you all that don’t go to rumors and better to go personally and compare to 1970,s era and current time of development..

    Go to university of sindh. Mehran, liaqat medical university, Petaro College, isra university.khiar pur univerty, chandka medical college, Lateef University.

    you will find thousand number of students including girls and boys of sindhees jageerdar and thier farmers daughters, sons studding together and sitting and eating together and there is no such gape as it was in 1970 time which Zulifqar ali Bhutto changed the feudal mentality through education, only 2% u will find with ancient mentality but rest is changed.

    Before less ratio of rural Pakistan progressed but now this ratio has been increased allot because of media awareness as I mentioned that 4000 villages provided electricity and 12 lac homes got benefited.

    Posted 1 year ago on 06 Nov 2010 6:16 #

  9. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    qam

    Yes, our country is much more potential than Bharat or Bangladesh. Our feudal system is one of the major hurdles in our development. Moreover, our involvement in the Soviet-Afghan war has been a very costly affair.

    Posted 1 year ago on 07 Nov 2010 3:48 #

  10. quaidkamazaar
    Member

    ya bro, Soviet Afghan war involvement cost Pakistan dearly, very dearly.

    Posted 1 year ago on 07 Nov 2010 23:26 #

  11. spruce
    Member

    our establishment looked only dollars but never thought for future , even no inspection most afgani settelled in karachi and rawalpindi have no data maintained.they use pakistan identity then abuse pakistan when they go abraod.

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 Nov 2010 4:38 #

  12. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    All the arms and ammunitions poured into Karachi as a result of the Afghan war. The lawlessness in Karachi is one of the reasons of Pakistan's backwardness compared to the other countries of the region. Karachi is revenue generating engine of Pakistan. Disturbances in Karachi damage our national economy very badly.

    Posted 1 year ago on 08 Nov 2010 13:04 #

  13. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    After Afghanistan, Pakistan is now the 2nd. most backward country of the subcontinent. Why have we not started taking serious interest in our matters?

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:14 #

  14. Adonis
    Member

    I think you have not visited other countries of the SAARC region. Please make a visit to each of them, staying at least a couple of weeks, if not more, in each of them, visiting different parts.

    If after that, you put your hand on your heart and are still willing to say that a common man in these countries is more prosperous and is enjoying a more comfortable life than Pakistanis, then I won't argue with you.

    I have actually seen these countries and the level of poverty and lack of facilities is such which is unimaginable in Pakistan.

    True that some areas of Pakistan suffered from terrorist attacks in the last few years but that makes those parts of Pakistan dangerous, not backward.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:28 #

  15. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    Adonis

    I appreciate your patriotism. However, all the international indicators are showing the facts very differently.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 11:56 #

  16. Adonis
    Member

    That is why I am requesting you to actually visit these countries. You will find the reality very much different from what one deduces from imaginary estimations like Human Development Index etc.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 12:24 #

  17. pakistani47
    Member

    Adonis you are quite right. But we could have been much better than now if we had managed our resources properly. We need sincere leadership then we can beat developed one as well.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 14:01 #

  18. bsobaid
    Member

    It is the jageerdara nizam in Pakistan as well as Pakistan's involvement in Afghan wars.

    Posted 6 months ago on 25 Nov 2011 14:06 #

  19. Hussain Farooqui
    Member

    bsobaid

    There are many political mistakes of the past because of which we were left behind India and Bangladesh. In the beginning, our rate of progress was better than that of India. As identified by you, jagirdeeri system is most fundamental ailment of our country. It can not be abolished by a democratic process, as most of the elected members of our parliament are jagirdars themselves. They will never abolish the system which is benefiting them. All the four military dictators i.e. Ayub Khan, Yahaya Khan, Zia Ul Haq and Musharaff missed the chances of abolishing the jagerdari system.

    Posted 6 months ago on 26 Nov 2011 9:37 #

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