Well, both of the poets, Allama Muhammad Iqbal and Faiz Ahmad Faiz, have writen about the issues related to the lives of people living in Pakistan, but with different perspectives.
Who should be the national poet of Pakistan?
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Who deserves to be National Peot of Pakistan? Iqbal or Faiz?
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Bullay Shah
MemberPosted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 21:20 # -
We have a national poet. What exactly is the issue here.
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 21:48 # -
misalligned
MemberBullay shah are you having a NISHAN-e-HAIDER in your hands and you want to award this to one of them. lolz
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 22:02 # -
msohail83
MemberBhullay Shah,
Did you drink too much today??
Posted 2 years ago on 04 Aug 2009 22:54 # -
Adonis
MemberObviously !!!
Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 0:38 # -
We should have the tradition of honoring more than one national poet, we should not be stuck in the gora system which he imparted on us 100 years ago....
we should honor both poets as they are carriers of the same light.....
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 0:40 # -
Red-Scorpion
Blocked@msohail83
"Bhullay Shah,
Did you drink too much today?? "
>>>>
IMHO personal attacks should be avoided !
Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 6:33 # -
msohail83
MemberIt's not a personal attack. You just didn't see the funny side of it.
take a hike
Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 6:35 # -
aristotle
Memberis there new election going to be held for national poet?
Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 6:37 # -
i think ..
we are facing too many of problems already that there is no need for paying attention to self created problems like this one.Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 8:08 # -
Red-Scorpion
Blocked@Beenai
"we are facing too many of problems already that there is no need for paying attention to self created problems like this one"
>>>
There is difference b/w 'discussions' and 'problem' !
What do you think discussions lead to problems or problems are solved by the discussions ???
Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 8:17 # -
skyfacts
BlockedsOME id'S TRY TO DISCUSS the issues already fixed in Pakistan and ISLAM.
Discussion is always for Improvement not to open new PANDORA boxes.....
SO PPL SHOULD STOP THIS ATTITUDE TO GO WITH AND INSIST THEIR BEHAVIOURS.......Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 8:23 # -
@redscorpio,
discussion wont solve problems .
but at least shed some light on the possible solutions .Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 8:26 # -
Bulley Shah, Ghulam Farid and Habib jalib should also be up for consideration.
Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 8:33 # -
lets not present this issue as try to snatch the position from Allam Iqbal, lets create a bigger room to include the others as well...new pakistan!
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 14:51 # -
yahya
MemberPersonally I haven’t understood Iqbal's "message" if in fact there is a single-ish message. Iqbal saying different things at different times is one reason. Everyone just seems to pick what they like and in apparent blind aqeedat claim on Iqbal’s behalf whatever they like. I remember Dr Javaid Iqbal (Iqbal's son) once said in a Jang interview that people have misunderstood Iqbal and Iqbal did not mean certain things attributed to Iqbal. The next day there was a barrage of critics saying pretty much that Iqbal’s son has no right to speak on Iqbal and should just STHU.
Another aspect is Iqbal’s “pragmatism”. Maulana Kalam once said Iqbal supported tehrik-e-khilafat verbally but never set a single foot down from his charpai for this tehrik.
Iqbal criticised British in urdu poetry but accepted British Knighthood and government jobs.
Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 16:10 # -
yahya:
I love your honest and clear feelings .....
Iqbal rahamtuallah alyehi was a "thinker" and not "actor"..yani he was a person of thought and not action. Which is absolutely ok cause he was the think tank and not the tank!
Most of his lovers originate from urdu medium jamat e islami cause he cried about the loss of muslim but non islamic government of the moguls....
its very easy to understand him if you can read persian, he said stuff easier in persian than urdu...
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 16:16 # -
latentry
MemberCan we have Imam Din as our national Poet
Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 16:27 # -
rocketrevolt
BlockedYou are against Iqbal jsut because he talked about revival of Islam and made muslim to think local.But you will never be able to defame or rip him off his title.If it were upto you,you would have re written his all works but we will not let you do it.He maybe dead but his message lives on.
And No. No one can be Iqbal and No one can be worthy of such title more than Iqbal.Maybe some second national poet or something like that but not national poet.
Period!
:)
Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 16:42 # -
where can we get imam din's work ? other than local stories and bachelor parties..
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 05 Aug 2009 16:51 # -
Imam din is the regional/national poet of Punjab LOL
You can also divide national poets in different sub groups.. like..National Romantic Poet
National nationalist Poet
National Comedian Poet
National Sofi Poet
National Vulgar Poet
National Chichorra Poet
National Time waster poet etcPosted 2 years ago on 06 Aug 2009 0:18 # -
msohail83
MemberI second RR. Best reply so far!
Posted 2 years ago on 06 Aug 2009 0:32 # -
Bullay Shah
MemberThe issue here is whcih poet through his LIFE and WORK relates himself most with the lives of Pakistanis these days?
what are the REAL issues of Pakistani people these days and how the poetry of one of them address, reflect and solve them effectively?
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Aug 2009 18:29 # -
shikra
BlockedNow there will be Shias of Allama Iqbal and Shias of Faiz Ahmad Faiz.
What honor and respect we gave to Allama Iqbal, already acknowledged the National Poet of Pakistan?Posted 2 years ago on 07 Aug 2009 18:33 # -
i am shia of allama iqbal!
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Aug 2009 18:44 # -
shikra
BlockedDear Mulla,
Please guide me,
Could I be shia of Allama Iqbal, Shia of Faiz Ahmad Faiz, Shia of Ahmad Faraz, Shia of Saadat Hasan Manto, Shia of Amrita Preetam, Shia of Lata Mangeshkar, Shia of Mohamad Rafi, Shia of Mehdi Hasan, Shia of Nurat Fateh Ali Khan and some others, one at the same time?Posted 2 years ago on 07 Aug 2009 18:56 # -
yes! ofcourse, all you have to do is listen to some tariq jameel wadera turn molvi, or any movli who u like to, just get his opinion on recorded music and you will automatically be a shia of music, with different imamates as you mentioned!
munafiqs create shia!
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Aug 2009 19:00 # -
izbaek
Blockedi heard about the only pakistani noble prize winner and there has been no thread about abdus salam.
why to discuss about the past??
why not to talk sane and logic and shed the old ways of discussing 62 years old things
like :who contributed how much in creation of pakistan is not a matter of concern in 2009,what matters is who and whose all will make pakistan a respectable ,self reliant country in this millennium
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Aug 2009 19:40 # -
shikra
BlockedThe scholar who talk sense could be declared as Anti-Pakistan or an agent of Kafirs.
Be careful on talking about Dr. Abdul Salam. He has been declared Kafir by a section of Fanatics.Posted 2 years ago on 07 Aug 2009 19:52 # -
yes, the same tabqa is here on pkpolitics too and the worse thing is that the new moderator supports that tabqa....go figure!
that tabqa=fundamentalists!
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Aug 2009 19:56 # -
there is a hidden element in Muslim society which always bans free thinkers!
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Aug 2009 19:56 # -
Bari Mushkil say hota hai chaman main deeda..........
Dr. Abdul Salam is a Hero of Pakistan. Nobody should refuse/refute his great work.Late Z.A Bhutto nain kaha tha 'hum ghas kha lain gay laiken atom bomb zaroor banain gay'. But the likes of Abdul Salam and Abdul Qadeer along with their team of scientists made us able so as to walk proud.
Same as we can have Justice Baghwan Das....No issue at all as they are Pakistanis we are Pakistanis but they are and will remain our heros.
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Aug 2009 20:12 # -
so you think qadyanis are great people ?
Mulla!
Posted 2 years ago on 07 Aug 2009 20:16 # -
shikra
BlockedI take it like that.
There are good Qadyanis, there are bad Qadyanis.
There good Hindus, there are bad Hindus.
There are good Muslims, there are bad Muslims.
There are good Christians, there are bad Christians.
There are good.........There are bad..........
There are good.........There are Bad..........
This posting is not going to end.........Posted 2 years ago on 07 Aug 2009 21:55 #
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