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Who is a Kafir and Why?

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  1. shimatoree
    Member

    In some of the threads that I have initiated on this web site, some people
    -( Abdur Rahman etc)- have rejected the names and the achievements of non-Muslims by saying that those things do not count as these people were Kuffar.

    Who is a Kafir anyway ?

    1. Are the Red Indians-( Native Americans)- Kafir in 1492 toll 1900 ? How can that be since no Muslim had contacted them and they certainly did not know about Islam.
    2. India is a Hindu majority country of over one billion people most of them are not Muslims.
    Shall we label all the children who are born in those families as Kafir too.
    And how do we reconcile the problem of the Hindus who were born in Hindu households?
    3. In Pakistan there is a sizable Ahmadiya community which has been declared non-Muslim by the parliament. Are they also Kafir ? and what about the kids born in those households who only have access to Ahmadiya doctrine and do not know any better
    4. Same question for the Jewish children and Christian Children and Buddhist children.

    If Abdur Rahaman rejects the “ Kuffar” as such then may I ask him and others-

    Is it OK to use inventions of the Kuffar ? Oh like traveling in Boeing and Airbus airplanes?
    And using gadgets invented and built by Kuffar such as Cars, computers, trains etc.

    It was my understanding that only God knows who is good and who is bad and he keeps that knowledge to himself.

    So who is anyone calling anyone else Kafir ?

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Sep 2010 17:51 #
  2. bublibangash
    Member

    I agree and am next to you upon this…..
    All the matters of religion, faith, spirituality are something personal between the man and his creator... no one should underestimate others just because they don’t believe in what they do…..
    This is the dilemma of Muslim nation to curse the non Muslims (which they don’t have the right to), and still getting benefited from the bounties of science and technological advancements, which are explored by the same so called Kafirs….

    Posted 1 year ago on 18 Sep 2010 18:42 #
  3. I started almost the same topic once http://pkpolitics.com/discuss/topic/whatwho-is-a-kafir . You have made some great extensions to that questions in very logical way :)

    People say that 'Molvis' were the biggest enemy of "Loud Speaker" when it came. Now they are the biggest market of loud speakers.

    Posted 1 year ago on 19 Sep 2010 20:02 #
  4. hkbajwa
    Member

    Funny how the mullahists are so silent on the issue.

    Posted 1 year ago on 21 Sep 2010 11:12 #
  5. Yeah! :) they avoided it here too. They are not sure of being a Kaafir themself, They use the products of Kaafirs (Dozakhi) all the time and are ashamed of doing so. :-P

    Posted 1 year ago on 22 Sep 2010 0:21 #
  6. Qasim ali
    Member

    WHO IS KAFIR AND WHY.- IT IS INTERESTING DEBATE.- CAN ANY READER EXPLAIN THAT.-ONE WHO CLAIM TO BE A "MEZHAR"(COPY-IMAGE) OF GOD IS HE A KAFIR OR NOT-?
    IS IS A BLASPHAMY OR OR NOT TO BE A MEZHAR OF GOD AND IS IT OR NOT A MUCH MORE SERIOUS SIN THAN BLASPHAMY OF AASI BIBI, WHO HAS BEEN SENTANCED TO DEATH ON THE ACT OF BLASPHAMY.- PLEASE COMMIT. SALAMS.

    Posted 1 year ago on 23 Nov 2010 18:45 #
  7. shaagird
    Member

    "kafir kafir shia kafir" =p

    Posted 8 months ago on 17 Sep 2011 10:35 #
  8. NNL
    member

    Finally some truth

    Shaagird wrote ""kafir kafir shia kafir"

    Posted 8 months ago on 17 Sep 2011 16:16 #
  9. shaagird
    Member

    in case you did not notice, shagird wrote in inverted commas!

    finally, and again, bull sh!t from you :)

    Posted 8 months ago on 18 Sep 2011 8:27 #
  10. Kindly stay on topic and answer the points mentioned by Shimatoree

    Posted 8 months ago on 18 Sep 2011 9:35 #
  11. wazirabadi
    Member

    @shametoree
    If a person is not a Muslim, it is his or her choice. There is no compulsion in Islam. The terminology of of Kafir and Kufr are arabic words. Any discussion on this topic without knowing how Allah has used these termms in Quran, is not of any use.
    Please research Quran and saheh hadith before making any comments otherwise you may be putting your faith in jeopardy.

    Posted 8 months ago on 19 Sep 2011 2:22 #

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