1.No charm and ability left with existing parties.
2.Vision and Ideology of PTI.
3.Going with the flow of wind.
4.To save Pakistan's future.
5.Lust Of Power.
6.Just For Fun.
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Why Establishment backing up PTI???Lets Discuss.
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Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 9:50 #
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Is it one best or mutiple choice question?
3.Going with the flow of wind. seems most appropriate!Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 10:05 # -
maria a discussion it is.
So in your view establishment needs to have a hello hi with any party expected to come in power.Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 10:18 # -
Can't be #1 as Dentonic and Co. would have been given the boot a while back. As a matter of fact, the current subservient dispensation suits the establishment just fine.
#2....hahahahahahaha
#3.....not too sure
#4.....Yeah right
#5......Like scenarioPosted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 10:25 # -
It's number 4 for me as no other leader from the current lot can improve our present situation.
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 10:30 # -
Critics say Establishment likes the fact that PTI is attacking the vote bank of PMLN who claims to be anti-establishment but I am not sure if this claim has any weight when Ch Nisar and Shahbaz Sharif regularly meet Kayani under the cover of darkness.
As far as PTI is concerned, it is the most logical step to attack PMLN because Nawaz Sharif thinks of himself as the predestined ruler of Pakistan in the next elections.
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 10:32 # -
# 5 it is,
And to back my above claim, one need to check out the role of establishment in creating leaders and parties so that they can have party every night.
Just look at the politics of last 10 years, they created PML-Q and MMA, why, because they wanted to get rid of PPP and PML-N... and why they wanted to get rid of these two, the reason is simple both parties had somewhat support among the masses and the leadership normally bend to the public pressure.. so there was a need of two parties, hence creation of MMA as a main opposition party and PML-Q a govt party.
Now that MMA is history and PML-Q is going to become one, establishment needed new name, JI is too old for this kind of game and with the religious terrorism on its peal, JI is not a choice at all, MQM is to busy with ethnic based poltics hence not fit for the role. so the main to two parties for EST is, PPP (under Zardari) and PTI under IK.
Both are pro-establishment, both will allow establishment to continue its game and both have no objection in establishments performance.
So PTI under IMRAN should be alternate of PPP who should be in the opposition.... yes PML-N's anti-establishment statement and role is there but Establishment do not want to KILL this party either, reason is simple, with PML-N around, the gun/threat will be there for PTI and PPP to obey establishment otherwise free and fair elections shall be called and both of them shall be swept away...
PTI's pro-establishment role is further confirmed by the PML-Q joining them... everyone knew how PML-Q was formed, the inclusion of Jamal Laghari, Shah Mehmood Qasori, Awais Laghari, Ghulam Sarwar all this shows that how serious establishment is to have PTI on board...
and Establishment of Pakistan have one purpose only, enjoy of the money of tax payers and their **** kicked by Indians and Americans...
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 10:44 # -
Title of thread is mischievous, it is with assumptions that PTI is supported by establishment which is questionable itself.
Whatever is the reason, One should support if an option is coming out other than N$ and Zardari.Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 11:21 # -
@ sochopakistani
Good catch!
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 11:24 # -
Yes, title should be Is not why.
Then we can discuss and let anyone bring any proof....Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 11:27 # -
صرف ایک اشتہار سے تو پیپسی بھی شاید اتنی نہیں بک سکتی
اسی لئے ہر تھوڑے عرصے کے بعد پیشکش تبدیل کر دی جاتی ہے
تو اسٹبلشمنٹ اپنی طاقت و اختیار کے تسلسل کیلیے نیۓ چہرے ڈھونڈتی رہتی ہے
پھر کوئی چہرہ جب انے آپ کو اصلی ہیرو سمجھنا شروع کر دیتا ہے یا ہیرو بننا شروع ہو جاتا ہے
تو کوشش کرتی ہے کہ اب اسکو منظر سے غائب کر دے
وہی پانی نیی بوتل ، گاہک خوش، اپنا کام پوراPosted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 11:43 # -
Only one reason.Stop NAWAZ SHARIF coming into power. NS the proven patriotic,anti-establishment,anti-staus quo leader.
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 12:03 # -
>>>>Whatever is the reason, One should support if an option is coming out other than N$ and Zardari<<<
One should also include a Karachi based terrorist outfit disguising as a political party representating a certain ethnic class into this illustrious list of entities which we want to get rid of with the help of establishment.
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 12:06 # -
@ intelligentpakistani,
>>Only one reason.Stop NAWAZ SHARIF coming into power. NS the proven patriotic,anti-establishment,anti-staus quo leader.<<----------------
Not intelligent at all!
Since when has Nawaz $harif became patriotic, anti-establishment and especially anti status-quo.
Establishment tu Nawaz $harif ki maa hai, ussi ki godh main tu conceive huwa hai Nawaz $harif...and Nawaz $harif is a glaring symbol of status-quo along with his brother-in-corruption and best buddy Mr Zardari the 10%, no one has more stake in maintaining this evil status-quo that is now bleeding Pakistan to death, than these two corrupt brothers and their respective political mafias, Nawaz $harif PMLN and Zardari PPP.
You FAILED (not so) intelligentpakistani, TRY AGAIN.
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 13:10 # -
In my view there are these factors:
1.No charm and ability left with existing parties.
They have failed MISERABLY to deliver and that too from top to toe. Punjab government says they are relatively better. That's true, but that's FAR from good enough. In other words ALL ruling parties have failed more or less.
2.Vision and Ideology of PTI.
Is obviously a major factor to revive Allama Iqbal and The Quaids dreams!
3.Going with the flow of wind.
There are certainly people in this category too. Some people always like to be with the winning side :)
4.To save Pakistans future.
Obviously Pakistan's future is on the brink of disaster. Something must be done to put Pakistan on track and PTI is the only choice right now, because-->see point no. 1.
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 13:19 # -
Good and beautiful dreams! May Allah turn these dreams into a reality, Aaameeeeen!
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 13:25 # -
@HF
Ameen, brother!
I just wanted to know whether you saw my questions to you in another thread several days ago? :)
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 13:27 # -
Friend
Sorry, I missed that posting of yours. Can you indicate it to me? Thanks for joining me in my prayer! We all love our beloved country Pakistan and pray for it!
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 13:33 # -
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 13:44 #
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Dont know who is backing and how is not but I do sincerely hope that it doesnt get "backed-up" too much as it could become very dangerous and harmful.
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 15:11 # -
Correction:
Dont know who is backing and who is not but I do sincerely hope that it doesnt get "backed-up" too much as it could become very dangerous and harmful.
Posted 6 months ago on 12 Nov 2011 15:12 #
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