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Anonymous

There is a question about a party called MQM in the minds of many members of this website so in order to answer those question I have started this topic....According to me their might be many reasons for that

1. ethnic factor: As you all know about all mainstream media in Pakistan like GEO, EXPRESS, ARY, AJJ. If you search about their owners them you will get this information...
GEO is owned by Mir Khalil-ur-Rehman who is urdu speaking.

EXPRESS news is owned by Lakhani group which are Memon and Ismaili.

ARY is owned by owned by Abdur Rehman Yaqoob who is also Memon.

AAJ TV is the mainstream TV channel which dont have any ethnic connections with MQM but they do have political connection as it is owned by Salman Taseer

2. Performance of MQM ministers are much better then other ministers...Over here I dont need to mention Mustafa Kamal, if you look at the performance of Baber Ghouri (ports and shipping) you will acknowledge that karachi shipyard which was continuously showing losses sice ZA Bhutto has final made some profit(watch Lucman interview with Baber Ghouri) and another reason is MQM was playing role of opposition few months back in many issues most especially NRO.

3. MQM is very strong in the financial Hub of Pakistan that is Karachi and now becoming stronger in areas like Clifton and Defence which are posh areas in karachi and many business men, stockbrokers, CEOs of multinationals, and other influential people are living and media is always hungry for sponsership and advertisments.

4. All these media have the biggest viewership among urdu speaking and most urdu speaking support MQM so media dont want to loss them as well.

5. Almost all media stations are in Karachi that is another reason because it is easier for media to understand MQM point of view as compare to others.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 10:39 #
Anonymous

If you got any thing related to this topic then share it

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 10:43 #
zia m
Member

MQM is not dominated by waderas and feudals, the intellectuals in the media like that.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 11:01 #
toamin
member

No media favors, it is only mqm terrorism that journalists do not criticize MQM directly, if anyone dares then MQM criminal mafia takes revenge.

You can find footages where mqm thugs are threatening on camera with foul language!

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 12:06 #
Anonymous

@Salam

"No media favors, it is only mqm terrorism that journalists do not criticize MQM directly, if anyone dares then MQM criminal mafia takes revenge."

This is the most stupid thing that you came up with If media is that scared then why they take on Musharaf against impeachment of Iftikhar Muhammad Choudery despite all Govt. bodies use force against them??while looking at MQM it is a very small group and it can be taken over much easier then lawyers movement.

"You can find footages where mqm thugs are threatening on camera with foul language!"

Except for a footage of city nazim Mustafa Kamal I have never seen any other footage where any MQM leader or worker threatening media and MK is exception because every one knows that MK is best in his field and he has the image among karachiite and they cant drag any serious allegation against him in order to spoil his image

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 12:23 #
toamin
member

well, why not share your 'wisdom' by giving any evidence of criticism of MQM by media?

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 12:29 #
aftab arif
Member

MQM goons caught on CCTV causing damage and still nothing done against them, so i don't blame medi. We need another Naserullah Babar come and give them danda because they don't understand any other language.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 12:30 #
Anonymous

@aftab

"MQM goons caught on CCTV causing damage and still nothing done against them, so i don't blame medi. We need another Naserullah Babar come and give them danda because they don't understand any other language."

If they were MQM goons then it was also MQM city Govt. that release those footage of those who were burning Boltan market...

why would MQM ditch their own workers?

Why most of things stolen from Boltan market found in Liyari?

I would say if Naseer Ullah Baber ever did something in karachi MQM will become more stronger and gain more support of Karachiite if Army step in....

@Salam

"well, why not share your 'wisdom' by giving any evidence of criticism of MQM by media?"

I have already share my "wisdom" in my first post about media favoring MQM read it first and I tell you there are many platform where MQM is criticized as well remember after 12 may when media was giving full coverage to Imran Khan for making MQM his personal problem

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 12:59 #
toamin
member

Imran Khan criticizes MQM, PPP, and others in public and he is well known for that. So you mean to say that media criticizes MQM by giving coverage to Imran Khan?

I like to see criticism against MQM as party from media, tell me if you have any links?

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 13:11 #
aftab arif
Member

Yahya87

They gave the details because they know that no action will be taken against they goons.

Even if it was found in Liyari does not prove anything, MQM put it there just to blame PPP workers.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 13:45 #
aftab arif
Member

As most mainstream media are based in Karachi they know if we speak up some poor soul in Karachi will be taken out.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 14:05 #
toamin
member

Anyone remember why Kashif Abbasi was punished by ARY?

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 14:10 #
runaway
Member

aftab

How do you know those were mqm goons.. are u in agency or in some position where you have knowledge.

are u even based in karachi?

or just commenting based on yr biases

why did police ( who was present ) and in under Sindh govt ( not mqm ) take any action against those people

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 14:12 #
aftab arif
Member

@ runaway

I am not based in Karachi but i am aware of they methods. You are sitting in government and your asking me why police did not act. But my opinion why they did not act is they probably don't want to end up in bori.

The police know how to counter they bori tactics but are holding back as they superiors don't want them to act.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 14:34 #
runaway
Member

@aftab

May I ask how you are 'aware' of thier methods?

Its only your 'opinion'. So please dont try to put forward your 'oppinions' as facts. Opinions are based on assumptions.. And when you ****-u-me..that's what happens!

MK was right about you :)

BTW, I am not in government. Never have been

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 15:22 #
aftab arif
Member

@ runaway

I told you last time my step dad was kidnapped twice by MQM goons and he would not have survived if it was not for a SHO and a friend who is Navy Officer. You are a terrorist party and they is no getting away from it.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 15:54 #
aftab arif
Member

@ runaway

When i say you are sitting in government i meant MQM and not you personally.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 16:02 #
Anonymous

@ aftab

"I told you last time my step dad was kidnapped twice by MQM goons and he would not have survived if it was not for a SHO and a friend who is Navy Officer. You are a terrorist party and they is no getting away from it"

Sorry to know about that but What makes you that sure that they were MQM goons(because these cases happened to multiple members of my family and kadnappers were Baloch and pathan)???was he an activist against MQM(like supporting anti MQM forces back in 90s like army, Police etc)???was he a threat to any one who use MQM to take action against your dad(those cases were also happened back in 90s because MQM was not in position to support and watch all their workers)???and more especially were both incident happened back in 90s when MQM had a reputation of mafia by state own media???

Listen I am not a worker of MQM and I felt things in the same way like you about MQM until they opened sector office 2 streets away from my home 3 years back and at that time I thought our area would be ruined but reverse happened they helped shopkeepers in my area (as they buy from them), they listened to all our issues, problems and complains we were facing as a residence like water, electricity, sewerage etc and tried to solved them by the help of city Govt. and even they saved our area from robberies, snatching and other street crime that is why I support them.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 16:35 #
aftab arif
Member

@yahya87

I am not going to get into to much details other then what i have already told you, if you don't want to believe me thats ok with me i have nothing to prove. If my step said it is MQM then it is MQM and also on top of that in a complete separate incident they torched his apartment also.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 16:44 #
urazzaq12
Member

Well, it's true that a section of media supports mqm, like mubashar lucman, dr danish and hassan nisar. and Ary channel channel can be called a official MQM channel, except Kashif's show.

Anyway, most anchors are just afraid of mqm, and even politicians are afraid to speak the truth about mqm.

But there are some people who have the courage to expose these bhatta khor qaatils, most vocal politicians against mqm have been Imran khan and ch. nisar, and haroon rasheed has also written some articles exposing these bhatta khor, and to know the reality of MQM, one should read Ummat newspaper.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 16:45 #
aftab arif
Member

@yahya87

This did happen back in the 90's

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 16:46 #
Shaheen-e-Iqbal
Member

To deny past modus operandi of MQM; certainly not of a political party as it claims to be now.
It would be next to impossible to shed that horrible past associated with MQM.
To bank on Mustafa Kamal’s efficiency and thinking all blood stains have been washed off their hands is wishful thinking.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 16:58 #
aftab arif
Member

yahya87

I am far from convinced of they role even NOW, may 12 was not so long ago and burning of lawyers in they offices wasn't to long ago also.

In the second incident my step dad was kidnapped it was some MQM lads who warned him before hand of him being kidnapping, which actually saved his life because he had a plan in place before hand.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 16:59 #
Shock
Members

@Yahya

First of all, this is a forum for Imran Khan supporters. Secondly, these haters are burning from the inside because of the recent agreement between PPP and MQM. I always say that PTI is only good at licking the boots of JI. They don't know that Jamaat is using Imran for its own agenda as Imran needs Jamaat, but they don't really need him. Leaders of big parties come to MQM, MQM doesn't go to them.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 17:06 #
Shaheen-e-Iqbal
Member

What about now? Where is MQM standing right now? Is MQM a monastery of monks; than lets canonize it as all saints belong to MQM more than any other party?
No party in Pakistan however corrupt it may have been or still is has won titles of Bhatta Khor etc. List is long.
A troup of Goons, bandits, gangsters, hoodlums and thugs you call as a political party.
No Sir, another Naseer Ullah Baber is much needed. We are simply fed up with their blackmailing of parties through kidnappings for ransom, arson of factories, burning of humans alive, target killings leaving victims in gunny bags as their mark.
Why not have a nationwide consensus on this?

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 17:29 #
Anonymous

@UmeR

"But there are some people who have the courage to expose these bhatta khor qaatils, most vocal politicians against mqm have been Imran khan and ch. nisar, and haroon rasheed has also written some articles exposing these bhatta khor, and to know the reality of MQM, one should read Ummat newspaper"

Ch. Nisar talks totally b**** as he talks of allegations and assumptions against them which PMLN themselves imposed on them for justifying massacre of 15000 people of Karachi(I am eye witness of many incident) just like "Jinnahpur". His moth was shut of when last time he accused MQMs role in the parliament when they were about to present something against musharaf i dont remember what it is called. Imran Khan made MQM his personal matter and criticize but he also shut of by saying MQM is "natural allies". Haroon Rashid is known Jamati and a hypocrite comparing senior journalists like Hamid Mir, Kamran Khan, Talat hussain and many others who have years of experience in this field and Ummat is a mouth piece of Jamat and their news dont even have credibility of being correct or wrong. (I hope you know what credibility of news is by giving example of ummat)

@Shaheen-e-Iqbal

"To deny past modus operandi of MQM; certainly not of a political party as it claims to be now.
It would be next to impossible to shed that horrible past associated with MQM.
To bank on Mustafa Kamal’s efficiency and thinking all blood stains have been washed off their hands is wishful thinking."

not even MQM deny their past that they kicked out more then 3000 members from MQM after the end of operation involved in many activities in the name of MQM and please dont confusion MQM-haqiqi with MQM-Altaf because MQM-h were the real criminals and people outside karachi confused by the actions of MQM-H and wrongfully blame MQM-A. it was horrible past for all Karachi not just MQM people living in Punjab cant imagine what it is like when curfews are imposed for not days but weeks for nothing but a lie. whatever we been through in 90s MQM repaid it by developing karachi so people have no bad feelings for MQM as what ever happened in 90s was the happened because we were lied by authorities.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 17:34 #
Shock
Members

@Shaheen-e-Igbal

Yeah why not? Please bring Naseer-ullah Babar. Two military trucks went in to the area of Haidri to fight MQM, but never came back out. ****!ng Nawaz stole people's money in the name "Qarz Utaaro Mulk Sanwaroo" and never gave it back.

I am for military operation in Karachi, but I would want the same for Jamaat-e-Islami. The attackers of Sri Lankan cricket team have confessed to the police that they were staying in Mansoora.

One thing is for sure, Imran Khan would never become a Prime Minister of Pakistan.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 17:38 #
Anonymous

@Shock and all

dont get me wrong this thread is about media favoring MQM not about past present and future of MQM and about Imran Khan bashing so please stick to the actual topic dont write things that are already written in dozens of thread regarding MQM.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 17:49 #
Shaheen-e-Iqbal
Member

@Shock
Are you living in a fantasy world built around yourself, an illusion, a cocoon to seek refuge and not facing realities. Haven't you realized yet that MQM is still on list not for police action but a bit further where more likely you would be cordoned off first before a full fledged offensive begins, starting from your so called area wardens that you show off as 'volunteer on duty to help out traffic police'.
Have you not out done yourself by being over confident and over active?
Why not ask those who have witnessed and the way they still recall, what happened during those days when Naseer Ullah Baber was set upon your MQM goons on orders by BB.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 18:05 #
Shaheen-e-Iqbal
Member

@Yahya87
Sorry, topic took a turn towards this. I will try to stay on topic.

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 18:06 #
Anonymous

@Shaheen-e-Iqbal

dont discuss about Naseerullah Baber in this thread because you know how a Karachiite feels about him as he was responsible for killing 15000 people just for a lies imagine how many innocent people were among them who were killed for no reason but lies of Asif Nawaz and Naseerullah Baber I mean Army?? and stick to topic of discussion

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 19:26 #
raheb
Member

It is to concentrate that we have worst type of GENERALIZATIONS on this forum. This topic is one of the example. It is NOT matter of few persons Bad behaviour, one should see the overall work and results. You should consider that Black sheeps exist everywhere, in every party, religion, sect, nation, culture, nationality etc. ONE can not just declare some of above mentioned as BAD just few persons behave poorly without any authority from their leaders. We very poorly curse on Army, but we infact mean by using such word in such a careless way? Such improper using of words DO NOT make things better but rather more worse and poorer.
Like everywhere, it may happen that some members or they show themselves as members of MQM do/did such bad acts, BUT how can one throw dirt on a whole party? If a army officer behave poorly, HOW can you generalize it on more than ONE million person? Is it clever? NO TOtally UNWISE and Destructive.

raheb

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 21:33 #
gujjartalwar
Member

@Raheb:

MQM story is not as simple as you would like us to believe.
It was founded on violence and ethnic hatred.
They started off by killing and scaring away up-country labourers. Go to Punjab and Frontier and you will find victims of their hatred buried in every other village.

They never shied away from turning against anyone of their own who objected or disagreed. Prominent examples are Tariq Azeem and Hakeem Saeed. No MQM official has survived if he/she dared to leave the party. Remember the two formed members kille in 2002 Elections when they dared to run on PMLQ tickets. MQM Haqiqi is barely alive and have got hundereds of their workers killed. Workers of JI, PPP, ANP have all been their victims but these parties very rarely put up counter fights except when someone like CM's brother is the victim (recall the murder of Abdullah Shah's brother and killing of Altaf's half-brother in revenge.
They killed lots of people on 12 May 2007 when Justice Iftikhar was to visit Karachi and they even burnt some lawyers alive.

Biggest irony is that they have terrorized the p

Posted 2 years ago on 16 Jan 2010 23:25 #
raheb
Member

I have to repeat again "GENERALIZATIONS".........
Iam NOT defending any bad act ffrom no matter who did or do, but I have to condemn this way of approach which many of you here adopted. It is very poor way of thinking and generalizations against a party, society, group, army and what so ever should be condemnd. Secondly, all you 'gujjartalwar' writing is in PAST tense, and without prove, and if we have some then let the courts decide and punished such elements. Just realize it is NOT in favour of any to throw things like that, it is as destrutive as you are pointing out their destructive acts.

raheb

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 1:33 #
quaidkamazaar
Member

why media favors MQM?

1) MQM's successful work is not hidden, and MQMs ministers MNAs MPAs remain more accountable to their people than any other party.

About 6000 workers have been fired from MQM in past years, this shows that MQM has a strict policy of keeping only those who are serious and shows the strict discipline system that exists within MQM.

2) Journalists and Hosts understand that MQM is the symbol of change, because it challenges the traditional elite class rule of Pakistan. Educated intellectuals are part of this party who are answerable and held accountable.

CDGK has changed the way accountability is held in Pakistan. Now no one from Karachi fears knocking on CDGKs door and asking for their right to a facility. MQM has done splendid under this system.

Keeping all these things in mind, MQM will always be seen as good people in the media because certainly MQM has come a long way.

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 3:43 #
quaidkamazaar
Member

MQM shunned the Taliban when the whole nation was confused back then and now we know Taliban's reality.

MQM never had good history with the army, yet they support the army 100% now which is pro-pakistani.

MQM went against the Kerry Lugar Bill when haters thought MQM is pro USA.

MQM was alleged as biggest beneficiery from NRO, yet MQM went against the NRO recently.

Because of many issues like these, Hosts and journalists will favor MQM as they appreciate such actions and recent decisions from the party.

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 3:49 #
expakistani
Member

Any one remember Mullan Salah Uddin of fame "takbeer" Magzine..
His house in Golimar, Nazimabad was burnt bcz Takbeer reported first time about new group in MQM later people know that group as MQM Haqqiqi.

or boycott campaign MQM done against Daily Jung back in 1997-98? for not giving enoug courage to Altaf Hussain's bhook hartal?

There are certain things in MQM which need to be change for better future of MQM, in and outside of urban sindh. bullet tactics dont work all the time.

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 4:04 #
Anonymous

@expakistani

I just live 2 street away from maymar sector of MQM and I have seen that they are changing into decent political party so for me MQM is getting better and better every day if you talk about history then you should also know that today all those accusation are proven to be lies and were used for justifying Karachi operation and nothing else. I know MQM gone bad then because they ere unstable and their survival was also at stake so they did bad things to survive but today they are fixing those bad things and media is also supporting them on that. that is what I think.

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 7:47 #
Shaheen-e-Iqbal
Member

MQM may have done bad things to survive but they also did the same first to evolve and than morph into what they are now. Media should show us their past as a peek into history:

The “pyjama culture” on which the MQM has relied to build a Mohajir identity has already been studied elsewhere but the impact of Karachi’s campus politics on the rise of the MQM has received less attention from scholars.
The MQM has been more popular with analysts of Mohajir politics than the APMSO and the genesis of Altaf Hussain’s party thus remains shrouded in mystery. This is regrettable, because the first half of the 1980s was a crucial period for Sindh, during which campus politics spilled over local and provincial politics, before affecting relations between the province and the centre. The large-scale influx of firearms into the province, courtesy of the Afghan jihad, turned its campus into battlefields.
In Karachi University, kalachins made their first appearance in August 1979, in the hands of Hussein Haqqani’s bodyguards. In the following years, the IJT trained units of armed militants who would take up positions at strategic points in the campus as soon as incidents would break out. Until the beginning of the 1980s, these militants’ most bitter enemies were left-wing groups such as the Punjabi Students Federation.
In 1982, a series of incidents between AMPSO and IJT activists started up a new confrontation in the city’s campuses, which culminated in the clashes of September 1988, during which over 50 students were injured45. By that time, the APMSO had acquired a veritable arsenal, which was intended to counter the jama’atis in Karachi and Sindhi nationalist groups such as the Jiye Sindh Students Force (JSSF) in the rest of the province. After the riots of April 1985, MQM activists started distributing weapons to their supporters during public meetings, only asking for “a donation to the party” in exchange ; ammunition was five rupees a piece and the buyers were given an ajrak (Sindhi shawl) to conceal their purchase. According to a former MQM militant, Altaf Hussain and his companions had their first encounter with kalachnikovs in 1986 at Sindh University :

We had not seen any Kalashnikov rifles (before January 1986), though we had heard a lot about them. The first time we saw a Kalashnikov was when Altaf Hussain was invited to attend G.M. Syed’s birthday at Sindh University. Altaf stepped down from the dais and went towards a man holding a Kalashnikov. When the man put the AK-47 rifle on the floor, Altaf quietly watched it. After the function, snacks were being served in the hostel. We accompanied Altaf to a separate hostel rooms where arms were displayed. Some revolvers, pistols, rifles and AK-47 rifles were stacked on a table.
A Jiye Sindh activist identified various types of arms and their use. We listened with rapt attention. When we came back to Karachi, the entire MQM started searching desperately for a Kalashnikov. We searched endlessly, but in vain. Then suddenly, one day, an AK-47 rifle appeared on the premises. It had been brought by Jawed Langra. There was a wave of jubilation. In the night, Jawed went upstairs on the roof and fired. The whole of Azizabad reverberated with sound. People rushed out of their houses in fear. After that day, we saw many Kalashnikovs....
P11.
A DIVIDED CITY
“ETHNIC” AND “RELIGIOUS” CONFLICTS IN KARACHI, PAKISTAN
Laurent GAYER

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 9:19 #
zingaro
Member

I really did not want to touch this thread as some people will again start weeping that I have negative approach towards MQM.

Can you guys please stop making threads which then require members to also contribute truth which in reality goes against MQM.

Have you finally believed that every Pakistan has lost his memory or does not know any thing what has been happening in Karachi, which is the most influenced city of Karachi.

Why do you think that we are ready to swallow the sugar coated poison? I must say that there was no need to ask this question that why MQM is popular in media. Because everyone knows the answer of this why.

This is a mass communication era. If you are struggling to makeup the bad spots of your faces, there are modes available which can always broadcast your reality.

Just for a sample, a dialogue between a "Bhai" and his friend:

Friend: Bhai aap kion is line mein aa gaey? Ye sub guns, dehshat, etc...

Bhai: Yar baat asal mein ye hay kay I started a business. I was asked to pay 25% of profit.I had no choice but to obey.Later this %age increased and when nothing left lucrative for me, I decided to join them. Now I don't do any thing and get every thing.

Do you also want me to share here that how much amount is sent every month from Custom House to "Peer-e-fartoot".

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 13:45 #
rhyme
Members

lolz@ the dialouge

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 13:48 #
Anonymous

@zingaro

"truth" are not assumptions and allegations that you imposed on someone their should be evidence or facts supporting ground reality. I can say that you have killed 10 people with your own hands and my friend told me it was you who did that...

Memories are not lost of Karachi because Karachiite remember that they were massacred by their own country's Army for noting but lies and MQM has some how try to overcome those memories by developing Karachi..

If media has joined MQM because they cant pay the price that MQM demand then do you think only MQM was demanding the price while other parties sleeping PPP would have musch higher demand because they are the highest authority then why media havent join them why they decided MQM????

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 14:00 #
zingaro
Member

Yahya .. have you heard about Holocaust? You know Jews have made it possible that no one talk about the reality of holocaust.

What kind of evidence you want? Should I tell you name of that "bhai" and his friend? Do you want me to tell you name of people who have been actually facing all what I mention? If you say Yes .. I will smile on your smartness ..

Just for the information of every one here .. please tell me how many Police Inspectors are yet alive who were SHOs in Karachi police stations while operation time? Please tell every body here what happened with them one by one ... Oh yes there was one SHO named "Bahadar" or like that... If you know tell us how many bullets were fired on him?

I hope you will end it here as you can cover something but can't the whole thing.... I know you are a young man ... There is a life ahead for you .. be honest with you and your Allah .. then with your country .. and then comes any party....

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 14:10 #
Anonymous

@zingaro

any personal experience or any court pleaded guilty, my brother study in Hamdard University(hakeem saeed) and he told me that governor Sindh Ishrat-ul-Ibad is often invited by the management of Hamdard university in many occasions....now tell me why would a victim invite his prey for being his guest??

I dont know about those Police inspectors and I dont really care about them and if you know all mafias in karachi then their are many cases where drugs were found in Sohrab Goth and police officers who found those drugs were killed one by one and one of their target was father of friend of mine so things in Karachi are not that straight....I dont think all those ranking officer you are mentioning only did operation in Karachi and they havent caught illegal weapons or drugs from other parts of Karachi or raided some house arresting any gangster or criminal from Liyari...

I am being honest when I said that "not even MQM deny their past that they kicked out more then 3000 members from MQM after the end of operation involved in many activities in the name of MQM" in my comment above

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 14:35 #
zingaro
Member

When you say MQM kicked out their members .. Here you plays the game intentionally or unintentionally. I think better you tell this ****'n'bull story to some kids ... Because what I am telling here is based on my direct personal contacts .. and you are trying to prove something else....

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 15:12 #
Anonymous

Thats what I was talking about now you are coming to the point and about this SHO I would say I have no feelings for him because he was involved in massacre you may argue he was ordered to but still where was his humanity....I have witness Police and army action personally and you people mostly in Punjab dont know what its like when curfews are imposed in not just days but weeks because you people never been through what we as a Karachiite had been through and still we welcome everyone from other parts to earn their living but their is a limit to all that and now Karchi has even reached its limit to support but people are still coming to Karachi....You can call MQM what ever but for us they are the blessing because no other party in Sindh has performed the way MQM have performed what ever bad feelings I have against MQM are gone because they were the reason Karachi got burn and they are also a reason karachi came back to life..

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 15:30 #
Anonymous

Thats what I was talking about now you are coming to the point and about this SHO I would say I have no feelings for him because he was involved in massacre you may argue he was ordered to but still where was his humanity....I have witness Police and army action personally and you people mostly in Punjab dont know what its like when curfews are imposed in not just days but weeks because you people never been through what we as a Karachiite had been through and still we welcome everyone from other parts to earn their living but their is a limit to all that and now Karchi has even reached its limit to support but people are still coming to Karachi....You can call MQM what ever but for us they are the blessing because no other party in Sindh has performed the way MQM have performed what ever bad feelings I have against MQM are gone because they were the reason Karachi got burn and they are also a reason karachi came back to life..

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 15:30 #
zingaro
Member

lolzzzz ... Please stop it ... Stop this propaganda of victimization ... You mention curfew but don't mention why situation reached to a point that government imposed curfews ... First you said you don't know that SHO .. now you said .. he was killed because he was involved in massacre...Subhan Allah ...

I feel that if you will accept the truth .. your politics will end ... so why will you accept truth ... There is no need to prolong discussion when someone is denying the known facts ....

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 15:40 #
Anonymous

I know why they impose curfew because MQM was planning to create Jinnahpur that is why operation was done on Karachi and yes I dont know that SHO but SHO can only be killed by MQM worker is because he must be involved in massacre otherwise there is no reason for killing SHO by MQM.....

I have accepted the truth in my other posts in thread as well but I dont think you have read those post let me quote some thing from my previous post...

"they were the reason Karachi got burn and they are also a reason karachi came back to life.. "

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 18:35 #
aftab arif
Member

Excuses don't pay the bills, the same people who support MQM criticise taliban but both of these groups are 2 sides of the same coin plain and simple both are terrorists.

Posted 2 years ago on 17 Jan 2010 19:07 #